ASLUME (formerly Batman (DC Superheroes) 2024 - Rumors & Discussion)

[Swordy]

My personal theory on Blacktron and Space Police’s origin:

Both factions started as the ultra rare black-coloured Spacemen, which represented the commander role in the the latter days of the Federation and much of Futuron (derived from the apparel of the Admiral in ‘24 Space). Over time, some of the Black Spacemen became power-hungry and began to conspire with the Alien Queen’s forces as well as leaders of the Black Hole Gang. A secret alliance between these three groups formed the Blacktron Tri-Alliance.

Eventually the other commanding leaders in the Federation uncovered this plot and ousted the rogue Spacemen. The rogue Spacemen, much to the Federation’s dismay, took with them other loyal men and Federation technology and bases. All of their members opted to swap out their colourful attire to all-black, faceless uniforms, signifying their belief that Blacktron, the opposition to the Federation, is a force of nature and not just of greedy gangsters, crooked commanders, and advanced aliens.

In response to the growing threat of Blacktron, the remaining Black Spacemen and other Futuron members formed the Space Police. Each of their members were equipped with high-tech, red-visored helmets, and wore black to remind themselves of their fallen brothers and how quickly anyone’s fall could be.

To replace the commanding role in the revitalized Federation, the Orange Spacemen was decided to fill in this vacuum—although a sparing few were chosen.

Blacktron and Space Police are stuck in a never-ending war to this day, even as the fanatical Blacktron II came to be and the Space Police developed into more militaristic versions of themselves.

 

Alright, how’d I do?

[Renny The Spaceman]

11 hours ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

I think that the Kingdoms and Castle 2013 Lion factions becoming the Redcoats and Bluecoats respectively makes more sense - Both of these factions had kings, so they represented the ruling faction of an entire nation (while the classic faction era of Castle seemed to have smaller houses/domains that cycled between times of peace and conflict), and the colours line up better. 

That's a really good theory, this means canonically Johnny English would hate the 2013 LEGO castle line but fw Kingdoms

8 hours ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

That role actually is Unitron’s! They did not have much lore, but what is available characterised them as a surveillance and counterintelligence organisation. 
 

They're outfits definitely don't convey that

12 hours ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

I think that there is not really a parallel evolution of military and exploratory entities, but instead that military/law-enforcement factions are developed as the need arises. Most factions are broadly focused on exploration and resource extraction, while the few militaristic factions always have a direct enemy (SP1 vs. Blacktron I, SP2 vs. Blacktron II, Unitron vs. Spyrius, ADU vs. Aliens, Galaxy Squad vs. Buggoids, SP3 vs. Black Hole Gang). Mars Mission was originally just an exploratory/mining faction until the aliens attacked, at which point the MM faction started acquiring designated combat vehicles and more powerful weaponry (earlier waves of MM show mining vehicles with makeshift weapons strapped to them, while later waves have proper military hardware). 

 

This is all accurate, ngl though I think going full starship troopers over some looney tunes aliens robbing banks is a little disproportionate, I feel you could paint some money on the side of a jail cell and they'd run into it. 

6 hours ago, Swordy said:

My personal theory on Blacktron and Space Police’s origin:

Both factions started as the ultra rare black-coloured Spacemen, which represented the commander role in the the latter days of the Federation and much of Futuron (derived from the apparel of the Admiral in ‘24 Space). Over time, some of the Black Spacemen became power-hungry and began to conspire with the Alien Queen’s forces as well as leaders of the Black Hole Gang. A secret alliance between these three groups formed the Blacktron Tri-Alliance.

Eventually the other commanding leaders in the Federation uncovered this plot and ousted the rogue Spacemen. The rogue Spacemen, much to the Federation’s dismay, took with them other loyal men and Federation technology and bases. All of their members opted to swap out their colourful attire to all-black, faceless uniforms, signifying their belief that Blacktron, the opposition to the Federation, is a force of nature and not just of greedy gangsters, crooked commanders, and advanced aliens.

In response to the growing threat of Blacktron, the remaining Black Spacemen and other Futuron members formed the Space Police. Each of their members were equipped with high-tech, red-visored helmets, and wore black to remind themselves of their fallen brothers and how quickly anyone’s fall could be.

To replace the commanding role in the revitalized Federation, the Orange Spacemen was decided to fill in this vacuum—although a sparing few were chosen.

Blacktron and Space Police are stuck in a never-ending war to this day, even as the fanatical Blacktron II came to be and the Space Police developed into more militaristic versions of themselves.

 

Alright, how’d I do?

Fun headcanon, checks out, like how much you thought it through. It contradicts the Black astronauts "official" designation but those designations make no sense already so who cares.

However I take a strong stance against Orange also being leaders, I think anyone's headcanons about what role a colour fills are fun and valid but doubling up on one is a CS heresy, the fun is the more colours they release the more megablocks their roles have to be :P

In 5 years we're gonna be assigning teal as space cobbler and coral will be roadside repair for the buggies 

[ARC2149Nova]

18 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I never watched the show, partially because I didn't realize it was it's own show and thought it was just a lego thing, but do they give a lore reason for the general setup of the theme? Are the robins also at the academy and just background characters, or is it therefore implied by omission that batman's run out of robins and has realized he should probably send his next protege to a school instead of directly putting twelve year olds in front of enemy fire?

The robins don't exist afaik, Hal and Jessica both attend school together, and Supes, Bats, and John Stewart are the JLA/Adults.

The canon is there is no canon, not like we know it, anyway. It's just for fun. 

19 hours ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

That role actually is Unitron’s! They did not have much lore, but what is available characterised them as a surveillance and counterintelligence organisation. 
 

TBH, they feel like generic space marines/air force/security forces to me.

17 hours ago, Swordy said:

My personal theory on Blacktron and Space Police’s origin:

Both factions started as the ultra rare black-coloured Spacemen, which represented the commander role in the the latter days of the Federation and much of Futuron (derived from the apparel of the Admiral in ‘24 Space). Over time, some of the Black Spacemen became power-hungry and began to conspire with the Alien Queen’s forces as well as leaders of the Black Hole Gang. A secret alliance between these three groups formed the Blacktron Tri-Alliance.

Eventually the other commanding leaders in the Federation uncovered this plot and ousted the rogue Spacemen. The rogue Spacemen, much to the Federation’s dismay, took with them other loyal men and Federation technology and bases. All of their members opted to swap out their colourful attire to all-black, faceless uniforms, signifying their belief that Blacktron, the opposition to the Federation, is a force of nature and not just of greedy gangsters, crooked commanders, and advanced aliens.

In response to the growing threat of Blacktron, the remaining Black Spacemen and other Futuron members formed the Space Police. Each of their members were equipped with high-tech, red-visored helmets, and wore black to remind themselves of their fallen brothers and how quickly anyone’s fall could be.

To replace the commanding role in the revitalized Federation, the Orange Spacemen was decided to fill in this vacuum—although a sparing few were chosen.

Blacktron and Space Police are stuck in a never-ending war to this day, even as the fanatical Blacktron II came to be and the Space Police developed into more militaristic versions of themselves.

 

Alright, how’d I do?

Good for a personal theory, but I prefer the idea that Blacktron is just another human-like civilization that's been on the galactic scale far longer than Earth has.

[CloneCommando99]

15 minutes ago, ARC2149Nova said:

The robins don't exist afaik, Hal and Jessica both attend school together, and Supes, Bats, and John Stewart are the JLA/Adults.

Is that going off the original or the reboot? I don’t remember Hal being in the original.

 

Robin does exist in the reboot, he’s really bratty. Steve Trevor is an absolute chad. Hal Jordan is quite the player (Star Sapphire, Sinestro and Dexstarr at the same time)

I liked Jessica’s characterisation in the reboot. Though vastly prefer her main one. 

[Renny The Spaceman]

Christmas eve, that means this jolly fella will be sending gifts to all inmates by the end of the day

[Swordy]

12 hours ago, Renny The Spaceman said:

Fun headcanon, checks out, like how much you thought it through. It contradicts the Black astronauts "official" designation but those designations make no sense already so who cares.

However I take a strong stance against Orange also being leaders, I think anyone's headcanons about what role a colour fills are fun and valid but doubling up on one is a CS heresy, the fun is the more colours they release the more megablocks their roles have to be :P

In 5 years we're gonna be assigning teal as space cobbler and coral will be roadside repair for the buggies 

I don’t know, I like the idea that Orange could represent commanders (goes back to my admiration of Commander Cody, I believe). The fact that they’re just as rare as the Black Spacemen, without a role suggested like the Green or Brown, gives some credence, I believe. (The Tic-Tac set doesn’t, doesn’t count.)

Do agree that the roles need to be more ridiculous as they keep getting added, though. Teal or Pearl Gold will be an intriguing addition. Already forgot what Purple was thought to be—alien ambassadors? We do have a Dark Blue CS torso, despite no helmet or airtanks—Shadow Ops, lol, or Agents?

Curious, what is the canonical role of the Black Spacemen? I’d always heard/assumed they filled in a leadership role.

 

1 hour ago, ARC2149Nova said:

Good for a personal theory, but I prefer the idea that Blacktron is just another human-like civilization that's been on the galactic scale far longer than Earth has.

Why longer than Earth’s interstellar involvement? Why human-like as opposed to simply humans themselves? Seems a bit convoluted, in my oh so humble opinion.
 

14 minutes ago, Renny The Spaceman said:

Christmas eve, that means this jolly fella will be sending gifts to all inmates by the end of the day

(I know it’s been said before, but I genuinely do hope you take pride in the fact that you’ve single-handedly created a larger awareness of this random CMF for all members of the Aslume. All of that to say I need this Santa Dummy ASAP and will pay any price necessary.)

Should I be scared what I’ll get in my stocking since I’m basically the only inmate still in his villain arc?

Gasp! Am I about to be Christmas Carol’d?

Edited December 24, 2024 by Swordy

[ARC2149Nova]

39 minutes ago, Swordy said:

Curious, what is the canonical role of the Black Spacemen?

Why longer than Earth’s interstellar involvement? Why human-like as opposed to simply humans themselves? Seems a bit convoluted, in my oh so humble opinion.

Spy. Which fits as a Blacktron predecessor tbh.

Because Blacktron has better technology, hidden star bases, multispecies agents (Rench, CMF Bounty Hunter), and it has a certain mystique that simply being "humans but evil" tarnishes. Human-like as in, idk Romulan or whatever. Space is massive, parallel evolution and whatnot. I think it's an interesting what if to the idea of if humanity still valued conquest and colonization over coexistence and noble exploration. Blacktron is a dark mirror to the Federation, the perfect enemy in a way.

Some of us prefer complex storytelling is all. 

1 hour ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Is that going off the original or the reboot?

Yes.  I'm going off the movies, but I do know there are differences between the miniseries and the actual show.

1 hour ago, CloneCommando99 said:

I liked Jessica’s characterisation in the reboot. Though vastly prefer her main one. 

Jessica is just a national treasure, period. 

My headcanon on the Space colors, I guess (screw the canon )

Color is equal parts personal choice and official mission specialty, meaning that some color roles may change from ship to ship.

In the story I'm working on, it's as follows:

Yellow - Command Staff, Blue - Science Officers, White - Pilots, Red - Operations, Black - Tactical, Pink - Communications, Purple - Medical, Orange - Long-Range Recon Patrol, Green - Engineering. I know Brown should be Nursery/Medical, but there are no babies on this voyage, so they're my Hazard-Ops Officer.

For Futuron:

Yellow - Command/Pilots/Navigation, Blue - Science/Medical/Communications, Red - Operations/Engineering, Black - Tactical/LRRP

[Mandalorianknight]

2 hours ago, ARC2149Nova said:

The robins don't exist afaik

Ah, so it's the second one, they're all dead and Batman decided to send Barbara to school so she can learn how to not die like all the robins did.

2 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Hal Jordan is quite the player (Star Sapphire, Sinestro and Dexstarr at the same time)

Not that sinestro, the paragon of fear, is not also an issue here, but Dexstarr is a CAT, Hal. How are you worse here than in the comics?

1 hour ago, Renny The Spaceman said:

Christmas eve, that means this jolly fella will be sending gifts to all inmates by the end of the day

Did santa dummy send me the death threats or the pipe bomb? He really needs to sign his gifts, Blactron's assassins were very cordial with their poisoned christmas cookies.

 

[CloneCommando99]

6 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Ah, so it's the second one, they're all dead and Batman decided to send Barbara to school so she can learn how to not die like all the robins did.

Nah. Babs is just a girl who likes bats and works in the school library. No Batman involved. I think Batman’s just alone in this universe.

7 hours ago, Renny The Spaceman said:

Christmas eve, that means this jolly fella will be sending gifts to all inmates by the end of the day

Yay! Can I finally get that urani— oops I mean vibranium?

(I love this design. Really like the wear and tear details. They should do a Christmas CMF series and release the dummy as part of it)

7 hours ago, Swordy said:

Gasp! Am I about to be Christmas Carol’d?

I believe the term is Scrooged, but yes.

You will be visited by the ghost of old @legoturtle. Who will then elaborate your schedule for the evening. The run down is that you’ll be visited by the ghost of Christmas Past who will send you back to 1812, 1814, 19 BBY and 2018, you will then be visited by the ghost of Christmas present who will take you on a tour of all our households (please ignore the armoury and dungeon in mine), then finally you will be visited by the manifestation of the DC theme itself who will show you the bleak future that will come to pass if Blacktron wins due to your leadership.

6 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Did santa dummy send me the death threats or the pipe bomb? He really needs to sign his gifts, Blactron's assassins were very cordial with their poisoned christmas cookies.

 

Awwww man. They sent me an explosive Mara Jade minifig.

Edited December 24, 2024 by CloneCommando99

[Renny The Spaceman]

10 hours ago, Swordy said:

I don’t know, I like the idea that Orange could represent commanders (goes back to my admiration of Commander Cody, I believe).

I like that too, Cody love is always appreciated. Your way does make sense I just refuse to double up on roles because I think that's the fun of the game.

 

10 hours ago, Swordy said:

Do agree that the roles need to be more ridiculous as they keep getting added, though. Teal or Pearl Gold will be an intriguing addition. Already forgot what Purple was thought to be—alien ambassadors? We do have a Dark Blue CS torso, despite no helmet or airtanks—Shadow Ops, lol, or Agents?

Purple is the only modern one with a "canon" designation as the designer conference set gave them the role of "dreamer" with the idea being they're the astronauts tasked with coming up with new inventions and ideas to propell the faction forward.

9 hours ago, ARC2149Nova said:

Spy. Which fits as a Blacktron predecessor tbh.

Because Blacktron has better technology, hidden star bases, multispecies agents (Rench, CMF Bounty Hunter), and it has a certain mystique that simply being "humans but evil" tarnishes. Human-like as in, idk Romulan or whatever. Space is massive, parallel evolution and whatnot. I think it's an interesting what if to the idea of if humanity still valued conquest and colonization over coexistence and noble exploration. Blacktron is a dark mirror to the Federation, the perfect enemy in a way.

I like that more for Blacktron too, plus them existing at the same time as CS explains why they have spies. I always thought of it as a joke that a scientific discovery team had spies but if their role was invented later (along with Blue for security) to spy on the forces of Blacktron (who were on the shelves with the last wave of CS shortly before Futron) it makes everything a little neater 

 

8 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Did santa dummy send me the death threats or the pipe bomb? He really needs to sign his gifts, Blactron's assassins were very cordial with their poisoned christmas cookies.

 

Pipe bomb is more his speed, he sent neither though as he delivers them at midnight, if you have a new bomb then that'll be his :)

2 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

 They should do a Christmas CMF series and release the dummy as part of it

Dummy fever must become known, maybe then LEGO will finally be brave enough to release a new Dummy outfit (I've made a good few custom Dummy looks myself, all inspired from when I played LEGO City undercover back in the day and made all the custom character slots different forms of Dummy)

Maybe we all need to politely email LEGO and let them know we want a Santa Dummy, maybe a Dummy plush too. Only then will peace on earth reign.

10 hours ago, Swordy said:

(I know it’s been said before, but I genuinely do hope you take pride in the fact that you’ve single-handedly created a larger awareness of this random CMF for all members of the Aslume. All of that to say I need this Santa Dummy ASAP and will pay any price necessary.)

It's not even the first time I've done this, back during lockdown I got really into blender, mecabricks in particular. I was terrible at it but I was one of the early members in this discord server (as this was when it was first getting popular I believe) and I went on my Dummy tirade there too. It was less successful but there were still a good half a dozen people Dummy posting for a year or so there. 

And before that I tried doing so on the LEGO official forums as a youngster but no-one cared.

This is my most successful Dummy experience so far though, so I thank all of you for being willing to let him into your hearts, back in 2010 he was considered the dud of the line up but now he's probably the only figure in series 1 to have the potential to build a cult (he wouldn't as he's so kind but he could)

TBF he is the mascot for multiple LEGO fan sites and used a lot in LEGO media, but now there are a handful who, if he shows up in a crappy LEGO animation or game, will have a vaguely similar reaction to me and that's fun.

Now the LEGO community memed Nick Bluetooth into being in this year's LEGO Christmas card + frequently referenced in prints and stickers, maybe one day Dummy nation will be strong enough to do the same.

My life's mission is to convert people to the way of the Dummy, it shall happen...

[Agent Kallus]

11 hours ago, Renny The Spaceman said:

Christmas eve, that means this jolly fella will be sending gifts to all inmates by the end of the day

Yay! 

The only gift I need is this look at one of the glorious paragons of the united church of Mara Jade and the Demolition Dummy.

[BrickBob Studpants]

6 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Awwww man. They sent me an explosive Mara Jade minifig.

I was sent a copy of 77014, but I ain‘t falling for that  I sent that obvious glitter trap box right back!! I won’t be so easily outsmarted, neither by Demolition Dummy nor by any Blacktron assassins!

[RedHoodPug]

Santa Crash giving off This is Fine vibes.

[Renny The Spaceman]

21 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

I was sent a copy of 77014, but I ain‘t falling for that  I sent that obvious glitter trap box right back!! I won’t be so easily outsmarted, neither by Demolition Dummy nor by any Blacktron assassins!

Dummy would never trick you, he is a jolly friend to all who aren't lame or evil

 

22 minutes ago, RedHoodPug said:

Santa Crash giving off This is Fine vibes.

Everything is fine when Dummy is home

[BrickBob Studpants]

12 minutes ago, Renny The Spaceman said:

Dummy would never trick you, he is a jolly friend to all who aren't lame or evil

…you‘re saying it might‘ve been the real deal?!  Brb, need to intercept a mail truck

[Renny The Spaceman]

4 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

…you‘re saying it might‘ve been the real deal?!  Brb, need to intercept a mail truck

50/50 chance, all depends on who it's from

[Max_Lego]

- You... You are...

- Yeah. I'm stupid.

We all know Man is stupid, just how stupid he is?

Here's a Christmas gift for the inmates of the Aslume - a custom Lego Man minifigure, requested by @Mandalorianknight:

Horns had to be cut away, so that Man isn't horny like "bat-man"

Better late than never... Or vice versa?

[Renny The Spaceman]

That is art

[Mandalorianknight]

8 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Nah. Babs is just a girl who likes bats and works in the school library. No Batman involved. I think Batman’s just alone in this universe.

Awwww man. They sent me an explosive Mara Jade minifig.

Batgirl having no relation to batman is really, really funny.

Oh, my bad, I blacked out and woke up in a different country again last night, that might have been me suiting up as Khonshu's Mando Knight once more.

5 hours ago, Renny The Spaceman said:

Pipe bomb is more his speed, he sent neither though as he delivers them at midnight, if you have a new bomb then that'll be his :)

Eagerly awaiting Christmas day for my new pipe bomb.

18 minutes ago, Max_Lego said:

- You... You are...

- Yeah. I'm stupid.

We all know Man is stupid, just how stupid he is?

Here's a Christmas gift for the inmates of the Aslume - a custom Lego Man minifigure, requested by @Mandalorianknight:

Horns had to be cut away, so that Man isn't horny like "bat-man"

Better late than never... Or vice versa?

Beautiful. It's him. It's Man.

[psqidexslizer]

1 hour ago, Max_Lego said:

Horns had to be cut away, so that Man isn't horny like "bat-man"

Thank you! I am still traumatized from the time Batman asked me if I wanted nuts.

[Swordy]

16 hours ago, ARC2149Nova said:

Because Blacktron has better technology, hidden star bases, multispecies agents (Rench, CMF Bounty Hunter), and it has a certain mystique that simply being "humans but evil" tarnishes. Human-like as in, idk Romulan or whatever. Space is massive, parallel evolution and whatnot. I think it's an interesting what if to the idea of if humanity still valued conquest and colonization over coexistence and noble exploration. Blacktron is a dark mirror to the Federation, the perfect enemy in a way.

Some of us prefer complex storytelling is all. 

I was just asking a simple question; no need to be insulting. We all have an appreciation of Blacktron and its story, just different ideas on how that story played out.

Though I do find it humorous that your way of making Blacktron not “humans but evil”… is literally just humans but evil. Near-human, human… it’s all the same when you get down to the fundamentals, such that you might as well start with Earth as their origin, especially since we have signs of humanity originating from Earth in this timeline.

I don’t see much superior technology in Blacktron I compared to the Federation—and Blacktron II steals their tech from the M-Tron. As for alien agents, Rench canonically appears later on in the timeline (SPIII) while the Galactic Bounty Hunter doesn’t require a set timeframe, given his specialized armour. Star bases could be provided by another intelligence, like the Alien Empress, I believe.

Humans always value conquest as much as we value knowledge; that’s why we’re more eager to push out into space than to explore our oceans. Blacktron being a dark mirror of the Federation isn’t lost if it’s split from the latter, since both sides represent humanity’s conflicting interests in exploration.

Your version is probably more correct as far as LEGO lore goes, but it doesn’t make it “complex storytelling” I think.

7 hours ago, Renny The Spaceman said:

Purple is the only modern one with a "canon" designation as the designer conference set gave them the role of "dreamer" with the idea being they're the astronauts tasked with coming up with new inventions and ideas to propell the faction forward.

…okay. I guess that works, although that’s more of a state of personality than an actual working role.

Didn’t the Purple-wearing Alien have a blaster too? Doesn’t that make the Dreamers in CS canonically violent?

7 hours ago, Renny The Spaceman said:

TBF he is the mascot for multiple LEGO fan sites and used a lot in LEGO media, but now there are a handful who, if he shows up in a crappy LEGO animation or game, will have a vaguely similar reaction to me and that's fun.

My life's mission is to convert people to the way of the Dummy, it shall happen...

Seriously, though, I’m a changed man. On my first playthrough of LCU in late ‘22, I never gave the Dummy a second glance. When I replayed LCU earlier this summer, as soon as I unlocked Dummy I was overjoyed and promptly made him my Construction disguise (guy with big jackhammer).

 

A noble cause. This is the way.

7 hours ago, Renny The Spaceman said:

(I've made a good few custom Dummy looks myself, all inspired from when I played LEGO City undercover back in the day and made all the custom character slots different forms of Dummy)

Imagine my dismay realizing Santa didn’t make it into LCU. :(

10 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

I believe the term is Scrooged, but yes.

…you’ll be visited by the ghost of Christmas Past who will send you back to 1812, 1814, 19 BBY and 2018,..

Apologies, I was going off of the part in Spirited when the Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come finally spoke.

 

So I get 1812 and 1814, but why 19 BBY and 2018 specifically? What time zone am I going off of for midnight? Can you also guarantee at least one Muppet will be included in these visitations?
 

1 hour ago, Max_Lego said:

 

“Oh, it’s beautiful.”

[Renny The Spaceman]

50 minutes ago, psqidexslizer said:

Thank you! I am still traumatized from the time Batman asked me if I wanted nuts.

The first time was fine, made sense in context as who wouldn't be horny around the Jerker but when he came back in the Flash and told the Flash brothers to suck his nuts and the showed it in graphic detail it was going too far

 

39 minutes ago, Swordy said:

...okay. I guess that works, although that’s more of a state of personality than an actual working role.

Didn’t the Purple-wearing Alien have a blaster too? Doesn’t that make the Dreamers in CS canonically violent?

I think you could interpret dreamers as a sorta thing tank/inventor class. We don't know if what that alien had would be considered a blaster given how CS is all over ambiguous accessories, they have so many weapon looking things that are really scanners or cameras OR guns if you so wish.

43 minutes ago, Swordy said:

Seriously, though, I’m a changed man. On my first playthrough of LCU in late ‘22, I never gave the Dummy a second glance. When I replayed LCU earlier this summer, as soon as I unlocked Dummy I was overjoyed and promptly made him my Construction disguise (guy with big jackhammer).

Glad to hear it! My favourite detail about the game is in the original Dummy is a late game character, only unlockable on the statue of Liberty island, in the remaster for some reason they swapped his unlock location with a mataince worker. He's now one of two characters you can unlock before even playing the first level (before even the second cutscene too) as he's in a disguise booth right outside the police station AND he's cheap so you can play the ENTIRE game as him (which I ofc did)

 

51 minutes ago, Swordy said:

Imagine my dismay realizing Santa didn’t make it into LCU. :(

He came two series too late :(

2 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

 

Eagerly awaiting Christmas day for my new pipe bomb.

He'll make it a great one

[ARC2149Nova]

1 hour ago, Swordy said:

I was just asking a simple question; no need to be insulting. We all have an appreciation of Blacktron and its story, just different ideas on how that story played out.

Though I do find it humorous that your way of making Blacktron not “humans but evil”… is literally just humans but evil. Near-human, human… it’s all the same when you get down to the fundamentals, such that you might as well start with Earth as their origin, especially since we have signs of humanity originating from Earth in this timeline.

I don’t see much superior technology in Blacktron I compared to the Federation—and Blacktron II steals their tech from the M-Tron. As for alien agents, Rench canonically appears later on in the timeline (SPIII) while the Galactic Bounty Hunter doesn’t require a set timeframe, given his specialized armour. Star bases could be provided by another intelligence, like the Alien Empress, I believe.

Humans always value conquest as much as we value knowledge; that’s why we’re more eager to push out into space than to explore our oceans. Blacktron being a dark mirror of the Federation isn’t lost if it’s split from the latter, since both sides represent humanity’s conflicting interests in exploration.

Your version is probably more correct as far as LEGO lore goes, but it doesn’t make it “complex storytelling” I think.

To be fair, I was being cheeky to your "convoluted" statement. It's not "convoluted" for Blacktron to be a pre-existing society, it's arguably more convoluted to make them an offshoot of the Federation, with rogue admirals, secret fleets, and the like. Both are equally valid ideas.

Humans as in "humans from Earth, but the bad guys". Of course all "alien" races and the like will still be invariably human, that's a non-argument. The star bases being provided by a separate faction is quite the reach, and doesn't make sense within the scope of the themes, where each faction has considerable differences in their technology. Yes, Blacktron II may have stolen technology from M-Tron, but the original Blacktron tech is far different than anything the Federation offers or has offered since (including all 3 Space Police, Ice Planet, Futuron, and Unitron). Including things like the CMF Evil Mech, which is leagues more advanced than the robots of the Federation, and even those created by the Zotaxians.

Blacktron is a mysterious faction that closely resembles our Earth-born heroes. It's true origins should always remain a mystery. "Humans but not" are a staple in sci-fi, from Vulcans to Kryptonians, this is an easy explanation for their classic appearance, it doesn't mean they have to be from Earth. I don't think LEGO ever intended that to be the case. As for conquest=exploration, think Prime Continuity Starfleet vs Terran Empire. That's the difference between The Federation and Blacktron, two separate societal paths. Also, exploring space is considerably easier than exploring the deep ocean, at least with our current technology.

At the end of the day, you can enjoy Blacktron however you'd like, (Imagination) but it's not "convoluted" to assume that the mysterious space faction is indeed, mysterious. 

Edited December 24, 2024 by ARC2149Nova

[psqidexslizer]

59 minutes ago, Renny The Spaceman said:

The first time was fine, made sense in context as who wouldn't be horny around the Jerker but when he came back in the Flash and told the Flash brothers to suck his nuts and the showed it in graphic detail it was going too far

Sadly, that wasn’t even the most traumatizing part of The Flash. 😞

[Renny The Spaceman]

37 minutes ago, psqidexslizer said:

Sadly, that wasn’t even the most traumatizing part of The Flash. 😞

Yeah, that was when the Flashes started sucking and megablocking each other