ASLUME (formerly Batman (DC Superheroes) 2024 - Rumors & Discussion)

[BrickBob Studpants]

1 hour ago, BatDeanj said:

Might not be enough time to start bats sets for 2025 but idk. 

From what we know, regular sets take roughly a year from the concept phase to hitting shelves, so there‘s still plenty of time for replacement sets!

[THELEGOBATMAN]

17 hours ago, legoturtle said:

So TLG makes the Shadow Box and then another BIG set... Art?

AND we, you, someone, somebody... complains. Why don't you make MOC's about those 2 sets? We have opportunity make own batcave. Where are all The Batman (2022) batcaves? We have also opportunity buy 2 technic batman sets...   

What's even your point?

You post a lot here, but it's really hard to understand most of it. 

[RedHoodPug]

9 hours ago, BatDeanj said:

They quit the Lego Batman license in 2009

Is there anything other than anecdotal evidence to support that? It fared well enough to warrant a second wave and had a break. The theme was relaunched as Super Heroes with Batman at the helm, the first game wasn't out that long and the second one wasn't far behind it. There doesn't seem to be anything to say that TLG let the license agreement lapse.

[legoturtle]

TLG would be crazy to abandon DC license.

[Mandalorianknight]

43 minutes ago, RedHoodPug said:

Is there anything other than anecdotal evidence to support that? It fared well enough to warrant a second wave and had a break. The theme was relaunched as Super Heroes with Batman at the helm, the first game wasn't out that long and the second one wasn't far behind it. There doesn't seem to be anything to say that TLG let the license agreement lapse.

No sets for three full years implies something happened- my guess is they didn't just want to spam batmobiles, had run out of the general bat-vehicle concepts, and were negotiating to use the wider universe. No one actually knows for sure, but whether they stopped the license or just sat on it for a few years with no sets, the end result is the same- no sets.

[legoturtle]

I think Marvel happened... DC is still trying to find new path for their movies / universe.

[RedHoodPug]

4 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

No sets for three full years implies something happened- my guess is they didn't just want to spam batmobiles, had run out of the general bat-vehicle concepts, and were negotiating to use the wider universe. No one actually knows for sure, but whether they stopped the license or just sat on it for a few years with no sets, the end result is the same- no sets.

It was still fairly early in terms of licenced properties. They didn't have many others so there wasn't really any precedent for holding onto an IP, or how often they would produce sets for it. I know there were no sets, I was so pleased to see that little polybag when Batman Returned, but I think saying that they quit the license isn't right. They were as you say negotiating the introduction of further characters, I've read that elsewhere, so I don't see how quitting the license does the scenario Justice (League).

[wesker]

7 hours ago, legoturtle said:

I think Marvel happened... DC is still trying to find new path for their movies / universe.

Hopefully Superman can turn things around next year. Its sad to see the state DC have gotten themselves into.

[TheBatstan]

7 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

No sets for three full years implies something happened- my guess is they didn't just want to spam batmobiles, had run out of the general bat-vehicle concepts, and were negotiating to use the wider universe. No one actually knows for sure, but whether they stopped the license or just sat on it for a few years with no sets, the end result is the same- no sets.

If we take the nostalgia goggles off for the original Batman theme/the first Lego Batman game for a second (heresy I know, especially coming from me), I think one of the biggest reasons for Lego canning it after 2008 was that it wasn't a great seller. I remember seeing forum posts of people finding the 2006 sets for crazy clearance prices, and distinctly recall coming across an eBay listing a few years ago for a sealed 2006 Batcave that still had the original discount sticker on it...for 30 dollars. Thirty. Dollars. And keep in mind that the original retail price of the '06 Batcave was 90 USD so it was more than half off at one point in time, which probably wasn't a good sign.

Now as we all know, this changed in 2008 with the one-two punch of The Dark Knight and Lego Batman 1 making Batman's popularity skyrocket again and starting the craze of the 2006-2008 sets quadrupling in value, which still persists to this day. But Lego had already pulled the plug on the theme by the time they saw this resurgence in 2009, so I'm guessing they spent the next 2 years trying to renegotiate with WB to get the license back and incorporate the entire DC Universe this time around before officially announcing the Super Heroes theme in July 2011.

Speaking of, stumbling across this topic a few months ago felt like knowing a car accident was about to happen but you couldn't do anything to stop it. The hope these guys had for sets in 2009 and the ideas that were discussed before they all eventually realized the theme was done were both beautiful and sad to read all these years later.

 

[Mandalorianknight]

@TheBatstan, as someone who was still around the age range of eating legos when the original batman theme was coming out, it's good to hear some insight from someone who actually experienced the original run on forums and such. It was a very interesting read through to go through the first page or two of the thread, see what people hoped for (we got most of it, but I feel bad for the guy that suggested a clayface based on the game. It's been so long...)

 

But the most important thing from that thread:

On 6/19/2008 at 9:36 AM, Brainbox said:

Oh God, he's stupid.

 

[TheBatstan]

8 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

@TheBatstan, as someone who was still around the age range of eating legos when the original batman theme was coming out, it's good to hear some insight from someone who actually experienced the original run on forums and such. It was a very interesting read through to go through the first page or two of the thread, see what people hoped for (we got most of it, but I feel bad for the guy that suggested a clayface based on the game. It's been so long...)

I appreciate the compliment, but I was only 7-9 when the original theme was out. A little past the eating bricks stage, but still way too young to be on online forums (hell, I only joined Eurobricks in 2013 when I was 14). I only managed to find these old forums out of curiosity and pure boredom, but it was fascinating to see what things were like back then.

Now if I was the age I am now back when the 2006-2008 sets were warming shelves, I would've grabbed as many of them as I could for some very lucrative investment opportunities. Plus actually having an entire sealed collection that wouldn't cost me an arm, leg, and a kidney to get wouldn't have been so bad either. 

[legoturtle]

"After three years in the late 2000s making only Batman sets, 2012 marked the beginning of a range of sets focused on the entire DC canon (minus the parts that would be at odds with LEGO's standards). The floodgates were open- we could finally have Superman, Wonder Woman, the Flash, Green Lantern (every one of them) in minifigure form. However, after 11 years, it seems like we're back to square one: nothing but Batman."

And in this article, I ask why.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/lego-dc-comics-crisis-identity-luke-canady

[BrickBob Studpants]

8 hours ago, wesker said:

Hopefully Superman can turn things around next year. Its sad to see the state DC have gotten themselves into.

That’s what I’m hopeful for as well  If that movie bombs, the future of DC would look grim, but I‘m confident Gunn & Co. will right the ship

[cosmic]

On 3/19/2024 at 10:51 PM, cosmic said:

Currently watching Young Justice and can't help but feel we were robbed of sets! The character selection is so intriguing and the animation is well done, would have loved to have gotten sets for this show. There are some prominent vehicles and characters in the first two seasons which I think would make amazing content. Plus very few characters would need new moulds. The bio ship, Black Manta's Ship, and Superboys Trike he got from the New Gods are all very heavily utilized and would make exciting sets. Young Justice is so good, kind of a shame they ignored it.

Not to be annoying but I finally discovered the name of "Superboys trike" is formally, the sphere, or the super-cycle. So yeah, my ideal wave would be:

• $100-120 Bio-Ship Attack
• $70-80 Black Manta's Ship
• $50 Super-Cycle
• $30-35 Batplane
• $20 Training Room 

it's a shame they didn't capitalize off of Young Justice when it aired. Artemis, Superboy, Miss, Martian, heck most of the cast would not need new moulds or even leg printing. Come to think of it, Bumblebee, Klarion, and Bart Allen/Wally West (who could share a mould for goggles/hair) would be the only ones to introduce new moulds. I would have loved a wave focused on this show.

Edited March 23, 2024 by cosmic

[legoturtle]

So in 2017 - how many Batman related sets we got? 

AND after that started downhill...

...

The LEGO Batman Movie was a spinoff to 2014's The LEGO Movie, a surprise box office hit that also featured a scene-stealing voice performance from Will Arnett as Batman. Chris McKay directed the animated Batman flick, and it featured an all-star cast including Zach Galifianakis as The Joker, Rosario Dawson as Barbara Gordon, Michael Cera as Robin, and Ralph Fiennes as Alfred. The movie was a hit with critics and audiences, and performed admirably at the box office, garnering $312 million worldwide against an $80 million budget.

What's surprising is that The LEGO Batman Movie did better than the last three DCEU films on a much smaller budget. Shazam! Fury of the Gods grossed $133.8 million worldwide on a $125 million budget, making it one of the studio's biggest bombs. The Flash didn't fare any better, grossing around $270 million worldwide on a $300 million budget, and Blue Beetle flopped as well, garnering $128.6 million on a $104 million budget. While these films did make some money, it was their outrageous production budgets that cost DC and Warner Bros. millions in losses.

 

[CloneCommando99]

1 minute ago, legoturtle said:

So in 2017 - how many Batman related sets we got? 

AND after that started downhill...

 

The entire super-hero movie genre has been in a steady decline since 2019 ended. Even Marvel, to me at least, seems to be getting less and less sets year by year.

In 5 years if the MCU keeps churning out flop after flop, the Lego Marvel fans may just end up like us. With only a maximum of 5 Spider-Man sets per year.

[legoturtle]

It is not just the amount of sets? Look what kind of sets both Marvel and DC has have... in recent years. Super big sets. Amazing sets! 

Batman is not going anywhere. The opposite. They have think in DC what to do with their characters. TLG should make new LEGO movie. Maybe LEGO Justice League?

https://screenrant.com/dc-batman-lego-movie-box-office-success/#:~:text=The movie was a hit,on a much smaller budget.

Edited March 24, 2024 by legoturtle

[CloneCommando99]

8 minutes ago, legoturtle said:

 

Batman is not going anywhere. The opposite. They have think in DC what to do with their characters. TLG should make new LEGO movie. Maybe LEGO Justice League?

 

Bro as much as that would be awesome, WB, the owners of DC, doesn’t have the Lego Movie license anymore. Universal does.

[legoturtle]

So if DC universe is starting again... which characters they pick?

[Max_Lego]

8 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Bro as much as that would be awesome, WB, the owners of DC, doesn’t have the Lego Movie license anymore. Universal does.

WHY DIDN'T UNIVERSAL REALISE THEIR LEGO MOVIE YET?!

 ...Oh, I don't care, they will NEVER be able to create anything even CLOSE to WB's 2014 masterpiece.

[legoturtle]

GUYS! We might get some sets of these movies and tv shows:

 

DCU–Chapter 1: Gods and Monsters

- Superman: Legacy (July 11, 2025)
- The Authority (TBD)
- The Brave and the Bold (TBD)
- Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow (TBD)
- Swamp Thing (TBD)
- Teen Titans Live Action Movie (TBD)

Elseworlds

- The Batman 2 (October 2, 2026)
- Joker: Folie a Deux (TBD)
- Constantine 2 (TBD)

TV Shows 
- Dead Boy Detectives (April 2024)
- The Penguin (Possible 2024 Premiere)
- Peacemaker Season 2 (In-Development; On Pause Due to Ongoing Strike)
- Waller (TBD)
- Creature Commandos (In Production; On Pause Due to Ongoing Strike)
- Paradise Lost (TBD)
- Lanterns (TBD)
- Kite Man, Hell Yeah! (TBD; Sometime in 2024)
- Booster Gold (TBD)

 

(No word from Batman: Caped Crusader)

Spoiler

https://www.menshealth.com/entertainment/a42733434/new-dc-movies-tv-shows-release-dates/

 

[Mandalorianknight]

27 minutes ago, Max_Lego said:

WHY DIDN'T UNIVERSAL REALISE THEIR LEGO MOVIE YET?!

 ...Oh, I don't care, they will NEVER be able to create anything even CLOSE to WB's 2014 masterpiece.

Somehow the next upcoming lego film is a Will Pharrel biopic. I don't know why this choice was made. I don't know what the fan overlap is. But universal is gonna do what it wants, I guess.

18 minutes ago, legoturtle said:

GUYS! We might get some sets of these movies and tv shows:

I... I'm gonna be honest, this might be the most confusing post I've seen from you. I know you've been reading the thread. Do you not see us discussing this stuff? I feel like superman sets have been the only actual relevant discussion we've been having. Did you just discover that these movies and shows were coming? I swear I've seen you bring these up before.

This is a pretty outdated list- the strikes are over and an official trailer for penguin is out. But in general:

Yeah, we might see superman sets. We've been talking about it in this very thread. 

A LOT of the movies/shows you copy/pasted are things that, even if they release, won't see lego sets due to their age rating. Joker, Penguin, Creature Commandos, Peacemaker, Kite Man, Constantine 2, etc are all concretely R/MA rated, and not getting sets as a result. A good chunk of the others have a solid shot at being R/MA as well, seeing how Gunn likes to play things and the grittiness of the source material for some of them. 

Which I guess brings me to the TLDR of... yeah? Most of us know these are coming, it's not exactly secret. We've been actively talking about whether or not we'll get sets for the upcoming non R/MA content. I don't mean to come off as rude, I'm just really confused. Did you not know any of these were coming? Did you think the people posting in a DC lego set thread didn't know the movies/shows were coming?

[legoturtle]

So LEGO can make sets for adults BUT not from DC & Batman?

[Kit Figsto]

There's a difference between adult-oriented D2C, artwork or nostalgia-focused sets (such as UCS Star Wars ships, flower or mosaic sets, or stuff like the NES model) and MA/R rated properties, which to my knowledge, they have never truly based sets on anything that falls into that category.

And before the whole debate opens up, they're pretty consistent in their depictions of violence/controversial subjects: fantasy/historical violence (such as super heroes or science fiction) is almost always fair game, modern/realistic depictions of violence or stuff that's blatantly MA (drugs/sex/alcohol) has pretty much always been off of the table (unless you count set 1687 from 1993, which was basically the LEGO drug smuggling playset ).

[hikouki]

Might anyone of you own the Killercroc bigfig from TLBM? I am wondering if it will fit inside an IKEA Sannahed frame?

I just ordered that bigfig from BL, and I am in the process of ordering some custom Sannahed display frames. I know that the regular bigfigs fit very well. Some of the LOTR special mould bigfigs do not fit Sannahed frames.