ASLUME (formerly Batman (DC Superheroes) 2024 - Rumors & Discussion)

[Murdoch17]

5 minutes ago, legoturtle said:

I have not seen Aquaman or Wonder Woman movies. AND not even superman movies.

How can you make an opinion about something you've never seen? Watch it, you might be surprised. Example: I wasn't too sure about BTAS until the LEGO Gotham Skyline came out, and I'm currently 100% loving it. Yeah, Superman of the 70's is hokey at times, but they are products of their time - same at Batman '66 was. Somethings work, others don't. Same as any movie series, not just super hero films! *looks at Godfather III*

Edited June 7, 2024 by Murdoch17

[Jason Todd is my God]

Hello

I might be a little late but a while back 🔙 you were going through each year and picking the best DC set from each. So I thought 🤔 I would do my list ! 😄 

2006 would be it's batcave, I never ad it but a friend did, and was jealous 👀, runners up for 06 would be the 2 face v Bat mobile set and the Arkham.

2007 on had 2 sets but the Bat-tank wins it here.

The 08 sets I remember drooling over in the catalogue but I had actually had any of them. The penguin Sub 🐧 is the winner to me actually, followed by the Hammer truck 

2011 doesn't really count but the comic con green lantern can be an honourable mention 🏆

2012 goes to the fun house, a set I didn't get till years later, runners up are green lantern bionicle because he's a green lantern bionicle and the cat-cycle set for nostalgia reasons.

2013 Arkham, Nuff said!!!

2014 goes to the batmobile set with the flash, the batgirl set should get an honourable mention for batgirl but build is not my cup of tea ☕ 

2015 was an incredible year for the theme, most it's sets could tip most other years! I'm actually gonna go for the brainiac attack set here though, runners up are Jokerland, the Javelin and the GL jet ✈️ set.

2016 Could say the sewer smash just for my boy Red Hood but I don't like the build at all!!! 😭 So I might have to say the 66 batcave Instead.

2017 goes to the TLBM Arkham, I mean TLBM sets are a while nother league above the mainline DC ones aren't they, they all stunning, well almost all.

2018 also goes to a TLBM set, either the Egghead Mech or the Justice league party , I really can't decide!!! Honourable mention to the cyborg copter set for being itself and having Eobard.

2019 was the themes last golden year before the relative drought! I'll say the batcave but the riddler v 🦇 batwing set is also up there as is the mech set actually.

2020 uhh no real standouts here. I guess the weird truck? Or the CMF if it counts.

2021 has the Adam West batmonbile that really should have had Robin!!

2022 I'll say the Batcave from the movie.

2023 the shadow box, and then the batwing .

2024 (so far 🤞 hopefully more coming) the Gotham skyline 

 

 

So that's my set of year for each year, goodness looking at it like that I almost wish they'd spread the food sets out a bit more, they often seem to come together!

-J.T.i.m.G

[RedHoodPug]

6 hours ago, ARC2149Nova said:

Like can't beat him at all? Or that he's unable to defeat? Because I can list nearly all of Superman's Earth-bound foes that Batman can defeat.

I will happily sit here and say that there's no point including B-list villains, because I'm quite confident that Batman could best most B and lower rogues of any gallery. I would also admit that it's quite a mean request of mine because not many people can name a huge number of Superman's villains, not least the turtle, who based on this 

5 hours ago, legoturtle said:

All those 3 are 100 times deeper characters than this Laser Eye who flies Moon and back in a fraction of a second. OR even faster. 

did not write this 

4 hours ago, legoturtle said:

Superman is one of the most boring Hero characters to ever exist in all of comics. 

If I told you I was creating a character who is virtually an indestructible god with only one real weakness which will be exploited over and over again for like 80 years by the same four characters, you'd say that's stupid as hell. That's Superman.

There's no drama to any of his battles, he's either gonna win essentially unharmed or the villain will pull the 492nd chunk of Kryptonite out their megablocks to win for a few minutes before losing anyway. If you wanna change up the battle, maybe they'll go after Lois Lane instead of Kryptonite, wow very exciting. I could honestly forgive all of it if he at least had some kind of genuinely interesting development or backstory, but he doesn't. He's just another god like alien in a universe literally full of them.

 

4 hours ago, legoturtle said:

Well, in the end I am right 99 % of my opinions. 

No.

4 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Wouldn’t mind getting some of the suit designs in minifigure form.

I am ready for Absolute Power.

4 hours ago, Agent Kallus said:

That is entirely irrelevant and you know it.

This is why grammar and clarity are important. Our green friend claimed one set of villains was better than another. At no point did he emphasize popularity over ability.

 

1 hour ago, legoturtle said:

Flash is a joke. No more comment.

Wonder Woman is like Superman... 1 of the most boring characters of all time.

Aquaman, a flop. I think Atlantis is the thing. Aquazone, Aquanauts and other themes.

...

Green Lantern I have seen in Justice League films... if I remember correct. I must say that LEGO made me interested of Green Lantern, Yellow Lantern, Sinestro, even Cheetah. Lantern Corp... that amazing logo. There is something in this. Batman needs allies, now that Joker has formed bigger faction from 13 super criminals.

Lets be realistic, each of those need an opponent. For example:

 

Batman vs Joker

Robin vs Catwoman (in my universe Catwoman is on dark side)

Alfred vs Riddler

Batgirl vs Poison Ivy

and so on... Bathound "ACE" vs Bane.... exc. exc.

Good grief Charlie Brown.

[ARC2149Nova]

8 hours ago, RedHoodPug said:

I will happily sit here and say that there's no point including B-list villains, because I'm quite confident that Batman could best most B and lower rogues of any gallery. I would also admit that it's quite a mean request of mine because not many people can name a huge number of Superman's villains

I mean, Batman stared down Darkseid, it was absurd, I'll admit, but Batman can put up with the best of them. Even Brainiac could buckle to the Bat given the right circumstances. Also, TIL Lex Luthor is a B-List villain...

Also, to show I know my stuff, off the top of my head, Superman's rogues gallery includes Lex Luthor, Zod, Darkseid, Brainiac, Doomsday, Parasite, Toyman, Bizarro, Myx, Bizarro, Metallo, Silver Banshee, Atomic Skull, Bruno Mannheim, and Livewire. Trying to pull a deep cut, but those came to my head immediately. Does Maxima count? 

Not gonna lie, Doomsday would fold the entire Justice League, no matter who's on it. 

8 hours ago, Jason Todd is my God said:

Hello

I might be a little late but a while back 🔙 you were going through each year and picking the best DC set from each. So I thought 🤔 I would do my list ! 😄 

2012 goes to the fun house, a set I didn't get till years later, runners up are green lantern bionicle because he's a green lantern bionicle and the cat-cycle set for nostalgia reasons.

2013 Arkham, Nuff said!!!

2014 goes to the batmobile set with the flash, the batgirl set should get an honourable mention for batgirl but build is not my cup of tea ☕ 

2015 was an incredible year for the theme, most it's sets could tip most other years! I'm actually gonna go for the brainiac attack set here though, runners up are Jokerland, the Javelin and the GL jet ✈️ set.

2019 was the themes last golden year before the relative drought! I'll say the batcave but the riddler v 🦇 batwing set is also up there as is the mech set actually.

Great list in total, wanted to highlight some of my favorite parts.

2012's Catwoman set was my first Lego DC set ever. Holds a special place in my heart.

2015 is still the best year this theme has had, and Brainiac Attack is a great pick. I love that skull ship.

The Bat-Mech from 2019 is really good, IMO Ivy's the weakest part of the set. Finally got Firefly (in all his 2004/LBM3 glory!!!), and Flash got boots!

[ARC2149Nova]

9 hours ago, legoturtle said:

Flash is a joke. No more comment.

I know this is the Aslume...

But don't you ever...

EVER...

disrespect my boy Flash again.

9 hours ago, legoturtle said:

Batman vs Joker

Robin vs Catwoman (in my universe Catwoman is on dark side)

Alfred vs Riddler

Batgirl vs Poison Ivy

and so on... Bathound "ACE" vs Bane.... exc. exc.

Why would Ace in any universe be a match for Bane?

Are you trying to get PETA on our tail? 

Also, I'd argue it should be Batman vs Catwoman...

And Robin vs Joker. 

9 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

How did you reach these two particular nemesis conclusions? Alfred is very rarely in combat.

That's because Alfred would delete half of Batman's rogues in one night. He's in the cave for their protection.

9 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Guy Gardner vs twitter

This is perfect.

9 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Kyle Rayner vs kitchen appliances and/or low-effort character development tropes.

This is just mean. 

Also, the death of a loved one is a common superhero trope, regardless of gender. Uncle Ben, Gwen Stacey, The Waynes, Pa Kent, etc. Why wouldn't a villain go after the person the hero loves?

"When Gwen Stacey died, no one said a word. Lantern's girlfriend gets stuck in a fridge, and everyone loses their minds!!!" _ The Joker, probably.

[CloneCommando99]

9 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Guy Gardner vs twitter

Guy also, much like Hal, has to fend off the FBI frequently. Due to that time he had indecent thoughts about and almost groped Mary Marvel.

 

[ARC2149Nova]

Just now, CloneCommando99 said:

Guy also, much like Hal, has to fend off the FBI frequently. Due to that time he had indecent thoughts about and almost groped Mary Marvel.

I'm sorry...

WHAT!!??

[CloneCommando99]

1 minute ago, ARC2149Nova said:

This is just mean. 

But true. The Black Lantern that Kyle fought in Blackest Night was the literal fridge with his undead girlfriend inside it.

5 minutes ago, ARC2149Nova said:

I'm sorry...

WHAT!!??

JLA Classified #5

[ARC2149Nova]

20 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said:

But true. The Black Lantern that Kyle fought in Blackest Night was the literal fridge with his undead girlfriend inside it.

JLA Classified #5

I swear DC stays outta pocket with their Lantern stories. 

[thephantasm]

47 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Guy also, much like Hal, has to fend off the FBI frequently. Due to that time he had indecent thoughts about and almost groped Mary Marvel.

 

It wasn't almost

[legoturtle]

10 hours ago, Jason Todd is my God said:

I might be a little late but a while back 🔙 you were going through each year and picking the best DC set from each. So I thought 🤔 I would do my list ! 😄 

Sir?

RULES 2024:

TOP-10 MINIFIGURE HEROES

TOP-10 MINIFIGURE VILLAINS

TOP-10 SETS

 

 

 

(Batman, DC Comics Super Heroes, TLBM, CMF, GWP, other...)

[CloneCommando99]

2 hours ago, thephantasm said:

It wasn't almost

Ah. So let’s see.

Alan Scott: Deadbeat Dad

Hal Jordan: Paedophile and Parallax

Guy Gardner: Paedophile, Darkstar and Red Lantern.

John Stewart: Killed 2 planets.

Kyle Rayner: Parallax (however this is cancelled out by virtue of him becoming space Jesus when he became a white lantern)

Simon Baz: Car Thief and Let Sinestro run around doing his own thing unsupervised. (During Rise of The First Lantern)

Jessica Cruz: Power Ring, Red Lantern and Yellow Lantern

Therefore it looks like Jo Mullein is the most moral out of all the GLs. However this is by sheer virtue of her not being around long enough for the Writers to make her do something questionable. With Kyle coming up in second place. 

 

 

 

Edited June 8, 2024 by CloneCommando99

[ARC2149Nova]

I will not tolerate this Lantern slander!

Back to dunking on the Kryptonian. 

23 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said:

John Stewart: Planet Killer.

Kyle Rayner: Parallax (however this is cancelled out by virtue of him becoming space Jesus when he became a white lantern)

Jessica Cruz: Power Ring, Red Lantern and Yellow Lantern

Of the Lanterns that matter (), these three are obviously the ones with the cleanest noses.

Also, Jessica kinda proves that the yellow ring isn't inherently evil, a concept that should be explored more honestly. Emotions aren't evil, actions are evil. Greed notwithstanding.

[CloneCommando99]

48 minutes ago, ARC2149Nova said:

I will not tolerate this Lantern slander!

I’m primarily a Lantern fan so I’m just doing this for jonks.

48 minutes ago, ARC2149Nova said:

Back to dunking on the Kryptonian. 

No, no, no. Flash is next.

His weakness is literally his ADHD. And he was played by Ezra Miller. That’s it. 
 

Alright that’s Flash done. Who’s next? Wonder Woman? 

[Agent Kallus]

6 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said:

I’m primarily a Lantern fan so I’m just doing this for jonks.

No, no, no. Flash is next.

His weakness is literally his ADHD. And he was played by Ezra Miller. That’s it. 
 

Alright that’s Flash done. Who’s next? Wonder Woman? 

The best flash ( Wally) wasn't played by Ezra, so he wins.

[ARC2149Nova]

12 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Wonder Woman? 

"Did you hear? Wonder Woman killed a guy!"

13 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said:

And he was played by Ezra Miller.

Another trash casting decision. DCAMU Barry is the best one we've had outside of Young Justice. And no, while Grant is good, he isn't Barry Allen.

[RedHoodPug]

2 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

JLA Classified #5

Does Guy know that Mary Marvel is an avatar of a young teenager? With her powers she resembles her mother, and there's no mention of her youth throughout or after that confrontation, nor does anyone on the team kick his big behind for it. I'm not sure what Giffen was thinking of here, because his JLI Guy was a parody jock tool, not a sexual assaulter. 

[CloneCommando99]

1 hour ago, RedHoodPug said:

Does Guy know that Mary Marvel is an avatar of a young teenager? With her powers she resembles her mother, and there's no mention of her youth throughout or after that confrontation, nor does anyone on the team kick his big behind for it. I'm not sure what Giffen was thinking of here, because his JLI Guy was a parody jock tool, not a sexual assaulter. 

I honestly can’t remember. But it’s still pretty incriminating either way. 

1 hour ago, ARC2149Nova said:

"Did you hear? Wonder Woman killed a guy!"

Let’s see: She switches Wonder Girls every 5 minutes, got her mother turned into clay during the New 52, she’s a deadbeat mother to Hunter Prince in that one future timeline, most evil person in the Injustice universe, got outsmarted by Jonkler and was knocked out by and switched clothes with Harley Quinn.

 

Who’s next on the agenda?

Edited June 8, 2024 by CloneCommando99

[RedHoodPug]

2 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

honestly can’t remember. But it’s still pretty incriminating either way.

I feel it's more a stain on the writer and artist's copybooks than it is on the character.

2 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

she’s a deadbeat mother to Hunter Prince in that one future timeline,

I feel that the Darkness is more responsible than Diana here. 

In the interest of balance she's also been a Star Sapphire, trounced BWL, been a successful ambassador for Themyscira as well as a Goddess. Definitely nuanced, is Diana. I struggle with Turtle's opinion that she's boring. Ironically when she lost her powers it was actually boring.

[CloneCommando99]

2 hours ago, RedHoodPug said:

In the interest of balance she's also been a Star Sapphire, trounced BWL, been a successful ambassador for Themyscira as well as a Goddess. Definitely nuanced, is Diana. I struggle with Turtle's opinion that she's boring. Ironically when she lost her powers it was actually boring.

It’s just a fun roast of everyone’s favourite characters. Nice break from superman being roasted by Turtle. No need for counter points because most of us already know that they’re all great characters no matter how questionable some of their actions or weaknesses have been.

Let’s continue:

Martian Manhunter: Addicted to Oreo’s because they’re the equivalent of heroin to Martian physiology. He’s also afraid of fire, which is understandable, but if he overcomes that fear he becomes an evil demon for some reason.

Powergirl: Besides from possibly being charged with the obvious public indecency she could also be convicted of grooming Hal Jordan (Ironic) that time he lost his memories.

Green Arrow: Child endangerment of his sidekick Speedy, who later became a drug addict. As a result of Speedy’s drug addiction Green Arrow then physically abused Speedy once Hal Jordan had left the area. He has also physically assaulted: Batman, Hawkman and Kyle Rayner.

Nightwing: Cheated on Star-fire with Barbara Gordon and subsequently invited Barbara to his wedding on the way out, used Barbara Gordon’s disability against her in argument (when she was paralysed), broke the bro code against Batman with Catwoman, Killed all DC heroes and Villains in Nightwing New World Order, ripped out Batman’s heart and killed or turned everyone into vampires in DC vs Vampires, became a psychotic Batman in the altered time line where the Waynes were never murdered and became the Joker in another elseworld. In short he definitely lives up to his name of Dick.

 

Anyone else have any other characters that you would like to roast?

Edited June 8, 2024 by CloneCommando99

[THELEGOBATMAN]

5 hours ago, ARC2149Nova said:

Another trash casting decision. DCAMU Barry is the best one we've had outside of Young Justice. And no, while Grant is good, he isn't Barry Allen.

Imo he was the most enjoyable part of the otherwise mediocre movie.

While he's a... problematic presence, I loved him as Barry.

[ARC2149Nova]

1 hour ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

Imo he was the most enjoyable part of the otherwise mediocre movie.

While he's a... problematic presence, I loved him as Barry.

Well, to each their own, but Ezra is nothing like Barry Allen.

He's closer to Wally, maybe Bart, and even that's being generous.

6 hours ago, RedHoodPug said:

Does Guy know...?

 

No, Guy knows nothing at all.

I thought we all knew this. 

[Mandalorianknight]

11 hours ago, ARC2149Nova said:

I mean, Batman stared down Darkseid, it was absurd, I'll admit, but Batman can put up with the best of them.

Flash got boots

It can be done well, like the time when he threatened to destroy Darkseid's planet to set supergirl free. That entire time, Darkseid could have folded batman like a sheet of paper, but it wasn't a physical fight. He got outplayed.

I was at a lego store last week and did the build-a-minifig for the first time in forever because they had the red/yellow legs, so now my flash has boots!

11 hours ago, ARC2149Nova said:

That's because Alfred would delete half of Batman's rogues in one night. He's in the cave for their protection.

This is just mean. 

Also, the death of a loved one is a common superhero trope, regardless of gender. Uncle Ben, Gwen Stacey, The Waynes, Pa Kent, etc. Why wouldn't a villain go after the person the hero loves?

"When Gwen Stacey died, no one said a word. Lantern's girlfriend gets stuck in a fridge, and everyone loses their minds!!!" _ The Joker, probably.

Exactly. Alfred's archenemy would be someone like Darkseid, or at the very least someone bulletproof.

I don't think it was sexist, I just think it was lazy, edgy and done for shock value. Feels more like something out of the boys than a GL story. Ben, Gwen, the Waynes, and Pa Kent are all important because it completely drives the character. "With great power comes great responsibility", "no one dies", the literal concept of batman, and having all the power in the world and not being able to save someone. Kyle's girlfriend's death was just "now I amgry"

11 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Guy also, much like Hal, has to fend off the FBI frequently. Due to that time he had indecent thoughts about and almost groped Mary Marvel.

I thought we cleared Hal a few pages ago.

9 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

space Jesus

"Because of Obi-Wan?"

9 hours ago, ARC2149Nova said:

Of the Lanterns that matter (), these three are obviously the ones with the cleanest noses.

Also, Jessica kinda proves that the yellow ring isn't inherently evil, a concept that should be explored more honestly. Emotions aren't evil, actions are evil. Greed notwithstanding.

I feel like planet killer is probably the worst on here on a utilitarian level, but I'm gonna let Jon slide because it was an accident IIRC.

Eh, it's like Slytherin in Harry Potter. Ambition isn't inherently bad, it just needs to be channeled correctly, just like rage and inspiring fear. 

8 hours ago, ARC2149Nova said:

"Did you hear? Wonder Woman killed a guy!"

On a more real note, I feel like she's definitely the most "hey let's kill ___" out of the trinity, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.

I'd say her main weaknesses are just a complete lack of interesting rogues (legitimately only Ares for me. I just can't get behind Cheetah as a serious adversary to WW) and anything involving her real-world origin. Which is really, really bad/weird in a very unique way.

2 hours ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

While he's a... problematic presence, I loved him as Barry.

He went on a geneva convention speedrun, not saying something bad on twitter. It's less "problematic" and more so "serial criminal"

But regardless, I will also put myself in the "he was an awful Barry" camp with @ARC2149Nova. He's not charismatic in any way, he came off as really creepy even before it turned out there was 100% good reason to find the actor creepy, he runs weird, and he doesn't act like Barry. By far my least favorite part of the Snyder Cut, and probably my least favorite part of the Whedon cut as well.

[CloneCommando99]

20 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I feel like planet killer is probably the worst on here on a utilitarian level, but I'm gonna let Jon slide because it was an accident IIRC.

Xanshi was an accident. Mogo wasn’t.

[ARC2149Nova]

38 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

On a more real note, I feel like she's definitely the most "hey let's kill ___" out of the trinity, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.

I'd say her main weaknesses are just a complete lack of interesting rogues (legitimately only Ares for me. I just can't get behind Cheetah as a serious adversary to WW) and anything involving her real-world origin. Which is really, really bad/weird in a very unique way.

Definitely. She's a warrior, death is a part of the job.

There's Circe (my favorite) and Giganta, Doctor Psycho is also a great foil, the antithesis of everything Diana represents.

And who can forget the GOAT, Angle Man?