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I was at a Lego Store over the weekend and got all the D&D figures I want except for the Dragonborn. I guess scalpers hit that store and got them all. Weird because I don't see why the Dragonborn is more desirable than any of the others. I'm not worried though, my local Target or mom & pop toy store will probably have as many as I want (which is ONE).

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I bought a full box through my LUG but I still want at least one more of several of the figures so I can have both versions of the male/female options.  While I don't need more Dragonborns for the actual Dragon headed version I would like to get a few more for the torso, legs, armor, shield, staff.  In other words every part but the dragon head.  I think that is why it is the most popular in demand figure from the series.

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5 hours ago, danth said:

I was at a Lego Store over the weekend and got all the D&D figures I want except for the Dragonborn. I guess scalpers hit that store and got them all. Weird because I don't see why the Dragonborn is more desirable than any of the others. I'm not worried though, my local Target or mom & pop toy store will probably have as many as I want (which is ONE).

The Dragonborn is so desired because he can be used quite well for army building. Same reason why all the other knight figures usually are desired aswell. 

 

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43 minutes ago, Black Falcon said:

The Dragonborn is so desired because he can be used quite well for army building. Same reason why all the other knight figures usually are desired aswell. 

I also like the way you can potentially double up the figures with the Dragonborn. The torso and legs are excellent standalone and can be used for one figure, while the armour could be used over another figure to give you the knight. From Pick a Brick you could spend $2.5 on legs, torso, two heads, two helmet/hair, and a sword, and you get two excellent figures.

The dwarf, by comparison really only gives you the torso and axe towards a massable figure, which is a shame. Although I understand why, and it might detract from it too much to attempt to make it excellent for castle stuff.

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17 hours ago, karrit said:

I bought a full box through my LUG but I still want at least one more of several of the figures so I can have both versions of the male/female options.  While I don't need more Dragonborns for the actual Dragon headed version I would like to get a few more for the torso, legs, armor, shield, staff.  In other words every part but the dragon head.  I think that is why it is the most popular in demand figure from the series.

 

16 hours ago, Black Falcon said:

The Dragonborn is so desired because he can be used quite well for army building. Same reason why all the other knight figures usually are desired aswell. 

 

 

15 hours ago, RichardGoring said:

I also like the way you can potentially double up the figures with the Dragonborn. The torso and legs are excellent standalone and can be used for one figure, while the armour could be used over another figure to give you the knight. From Pick a Brick you could spend $2.5 on legs, torso, two heads, two helmet/hair, and a sword, and you get two excellent figures.

The dwarf, by comparison really only gives you the torso and axe towards a massable figure, which is a shame. Although I understand why, and it might detract from it too much to attempt to make it excellent for castle stuff.

So I'm hearing it's more the armor, shield, and printed torso/legs than the Dragon head. That makes sense.

Also, I didn't even realize the one with the axe is a dwarf! Never noticed the shorter legs until now.

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16 minutes ago, danth said:

...Never noticed the shorter legs until now.

I think that's also why they're not printed (which has been another complaint against the figure). I've not seen printed mid-legs before, I don't think?

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So, I was somewhat successful in my quest to get a few more D&D CMF's yesterday.  The Kohl's website indicated that my nearest store had the minifigs available so I headed there not expecting to find much of anything.  Found the display box on a lower shelf and it appeared to be almost full so I started lining up the boxes to scan to see what was actually available.  The scanning worked well on about half the boxes so I was able to weed out the ones I didn't want and grab one of each of the five figures that have both male & female heads.  The rest of the boxes had codes that were more lightly printed so way more difficult to scan.  I was able to find one Dragonborn among the rest of the boxes.  I had a $5 Kohls rewards coupon so was able to save a little off each figure which was a bonus.  I then checked the nearby Macys but they only had some leftover Series 26 Space figs.  Went next to Barnes & Noble where I found maybe 16 D&D boxes but unfortunately no Dragonborns and most of the codes were difficult for the two scanning apps I use.  So I'm still in search of a few more Dragonborns if I can find them eventually.  My local Target doesn't seem to be carrying this series & the Walmart app says my 2 local stores have them but I have yet to actually find any in the stores.

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7 hours ago, RichardGoring said:

I think that's also why they're not printed (which has been another complaint against the figure). I've not seen printed mid-legs before, I don't think?

There are printed mid-legs in HP and there are a pair of blue ones on PAB right now that have prints.  

7 hours ago, karrit said:

So, I was somewhat successful in my quest to get a few more D&D CMF's yesterday.  The Kohl's website indicated that my nearest store had the minifigs available so I headed there not expecting to find much of anything.  Found the display box on a lower shelf and it appeared to be almost full so I started lining up the boxes to scan to see what was actually available.  The scanning worked well on about half the boxes so I was able to weed out the ones I didn't want and grab one of each of the five figures that have both male & female heads.  The rest of the boxes had codes that were more lightly printed so way more difficult to scan.  I was able to find one Dragonborn among the rest of the boxes.  I had a $5 Kohls rewards coupon so was able to save a little off each figure which was a bonus.  I then checked the nearby Macys but they only had some leftover Series 26 Space figs.  Went next to Barnes & Noble where I found maybe 16 D&D boxes but unfortunately no Dragonborns and most of the codes were difficult for the two scanning apps I use.  So I'm still in search of a few more Dragonborns if I can find them eventually.  My local Target doesn't seem to be carrying this series & the Walmart app says my 2 local stores have them but I have yet to actually find any in the stores.

Yeah went to a lego store today there was two boxes there one only had a few out of it the other was pretty full but someone must have taken all the dragonborn.  I scanned all the boxes and not one dragonborn.  I will have to try and find them first at some point and hope for the best

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4 hours ago, zoth33 said:

There are printed mid-legs in HP and there are a pair of blue ones on PAB right now that have prints.  

I am correct, thanks! In which case, I wonder why they didn't do printed legs for this figure?

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Well, honestly, with how they designed the Dwarf it doesn´t really need printed Legs, the black legs fit well with the rest. Just the overall design is lacking for me. Overall the Figure would have benefited from some accents, like a white beard for instance. Like it is, the firgure is quit dark in its design, and especially the beard printed on the dark head is almost disappearing.

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On 9/16/2024 at 7:36 PM, danth said:

I was at a Lego Store over the weekend and got all the D&D figures I want except for the Dragonborn. I guess scalpers hit that store and got them all. Weird because I don't see why the Dragonborn is more desirable than any of the others. I'm not worried though, my local Target or mom & pop toy store will probably have as many as I want (which is ONE).

think its a mix of FOMO and sculping. 

I ordered a whole box and that was basically all I wanted from this cmf.

Then people started talking about the dragonborn and I had to agree, the fig has potential.

When I went out to hunt it down, other hunters had been there before me, I could tell because all other 11 figs were readily available. Yesterday a shop got four new boxes, all dragonborns were alr sorted out.... guess I will have to make do with just the three I own.

 

But ye, I guess its FOMO and maybe also the idea of owning something thats extremely rare (at least in great quantities). 

Personally, I hate the idea of building armys with CMF material for known reasons. IMO Lego should change the system and let everyone just order the figs they want. I mean I would have probably ordered 20 if not more. Thats 20 more dragonborn sold for Lego.

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5 hours ago, Black Falcon said:

Well, honestly, with how they designed the Dwarf it doesn´t really need printed Legs, the black legs fit well with the rest. Just the overall design is lacking for me. Overall the Figure would have benefited from some accents, like a white beard for instance. Like it is, the firgure is quit dark in its design, and especially the beard printed on the dark head is almost disappearing.

Yeah the orange beard and eyebrows printing on the head really doesn't look good to me I wish they went with a different color.  

 

11 hours ago, RichardGoring said:

I am correct, thanks! In which case, I wonder why they didn't do printed legs for this figure?

They could have printed something like a small dagger or a belt to make it look a little better.  

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2 hours ago, Poco Lypso said:

think its a mix of FOMO and sculping.

And army building. Plenty of people buy them as they want them, not to sell.

2 hours ago, Poco Lypso said:

But ye, I guess its FOMO and maybe also the idea of owning something thats extremely rare (at least in great quantities). 

They aren't rare, let alone extremely rare. They might be more expensive than other figures but they are not any rarer.

2 hours ago, Poco Lypso said:

Personally, I hate the idea of building armys with CMF material for known reasons. IMO Lego should change the system and let everyone just order the figs they want. I mean I would have probably ordered 20 if not more. Thats 20 more dragonborn sold for Lego.

Whereas other people really like army building with readily available CMF. I cannot really understand people that want to collect all the CMF, even though I once did it. Why collect and display figures that have nothing to do with each other, aside from LEGO telling you they are a numbered collectable series and go together. At least the D&D series have some connection between the characters so having a series to display might make sense, but no more sense than someone wanting an army where they customise the characters by swapping out parts.

 

In a sense, LEGO do allow you to buy the ones you want, so long as you do a tiny amount of work. If you could order just the ones you want direct from LEGO and there were fixed production numbers, the sought after ones would be even harder to get. It would only work if they continually produced and replenished the sought after ones.

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2 hours ago, Poco Lypso said:

Personally, I hate the idea of building armys with CMF material for known reasons. IMO Lego should change the system and let everyone just order the figs they want. I mean I would have probably ordered 20 if not more. Thats 20 more dragonborn sold for Lego.

I would think it'd be relatively easy to know which figs will be more sought after -- the AFOL community always know as soon as pics come out -- and then just make more of those than the others. And make half as many of the less desirable figures to make them "rare" and essentially inflate their value. But, that might not feed the sort of emotional, irrational buying that the business types want.

6 minutes ago, MAB said:

They aren't rare, let alone extremely rare. They might be more expensive than other figures but they are not any rarer.

True, but as other people hoard them, they do get more scarce, which feeds the desire to own something that's hard to get.

I know this feeling all too well...

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On 9/18/2024 at 5:42 PM, MAB said:

And army building. Plenty of people buy them as they want them, not to sell.

They aren't rare, let alone extremely rare. They might be more expensive than other figures but they are not any rarer.

Whereas other people really like army building with readily available CMF. I cannot really understand people that want to collect all the CMF, even though I once did it. Why collect and display figures that have nothing to do with each other, aside from LEGO telling you they are a numbered collectable series and go together. At least the D&D series have some connection between the characters so having a series to display might make sense, but no more sense than someone wanting an army where they customise the characters by swapping out parts.

 

In a sense, LEGO do allow you to buy the ones you want, so long as you do a tiny amount of work. If you could order just the ones you want direct from LEGO and there were fixed production numbers, the sought after ones would be even harder to get. It would only work if they continually produced and replenished the sought after ones.

By extremely rare I mean: I can't go out and buy them. It prolly depends where u live and how many shops get them. I checked all shops where I live and all figs are available except for the paladin. So much for the tiny amount of work.

Lego could let people order the ones they want for as long as the cmfs are officially on shelves and just keep producing the ones needed, the paladin ATM.

 

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On 9/18/2024 at 5:47 PM, danth said:

I would think it'd be relatively easy to know which figs will be more sought after -- the AFOL community always know as soon as pics come out -- and then just make more of those than the others. And make half as many of the less desirable figures to make them "rare" and essentially inflate their value. But, that might not feed the sort of emotional, irrational buying that the business types want.

True, but as other people hoard them, they do get more scarce, which feeds the desire to own something that's hard to get.

I know this feeling all too well...

Idk if thats a good idea.

The whole idea of buying blind is to make customers spend more to get what they desire - MTG cards, gacha games and machines, lootboxes, etc. All this has never affected lego CMFs as u could get whatever u wanted by feeling and now, much easier than ever, by simply scanning. Technically there is no reason to keep doing that blind box thing anymore. The only way to buy CMFs blind is to order directly from Lego or maybe online.

The thing wouldnt be a problem if there was a steady supply of new blind boxes for a certain period, but thats not the case. You cant go into a shop that sells CMFs and be certain ur gonna get any paladins atm or even at all. 

,Making less desirable figs scarcer than for example the paladin would be most welcome, hehe, but it wouldnt change much. As I said I would have bought 20 or even more paladins if given the chance and I bet the person who bought ALL the paladins before me, would have bought any number. 

The most reasonable and most profitable way for Lego would be direct orders. Want 100 paladins? not a problem!

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1 hour ago, Poco Lypso said:

The most reasonable and most profitable way for Lego would be direct orders. Want 100 paladins? not a problem!

I don't think this is necessarily true. Currently, they do a single production run of a finite number and then move onto the next series/something else. They are very likely to base that production number on anticipated demand (for CMFs in general) and likely sales rates, so that the vast majority get sold at RRP in good time - retailers don't want stuff hanging around on shelves for too long. For some they may under-produce to market potential, but for others, like Vidiyo series 1, the market demand wasn't there.

But they don't really know what that will be until at least the start of sales, at which point it's too late to change production as something else is already in place.

If they made CMFs available to order to solve for this, where does that production capacity come from? Their current capacity is going to be pretty maxed out and optimized for selling things in large volume waves, so they can't interrupt it. If they add extra capacity to float on top, it will likely cost more to operate than standard large volume production, so higher costs, and less profitable for LEGO. Not to mention that if they did add more capacity, could they maximize profitability by focusing on yet more high volume production. Or yet another type of mid-small batch production to chase a new market, rather than the tail of an existing market?

Of course, some or all of that could be wrong too, but the answer of 'just make more and be profitable' isn't necessarily true and seems unlikely to lead to optimal profits. Otherwise LEGO would likely already be doing it.

What I really hopes happen is that a chunk of these components make their way into regular retail sets. That opens up more production capacity for them, and, critically, access to individual elements through Pick a Brick.

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55 minutes ago, RichardGoring said:

I don't think this is necessarily true. Currently, they do a single production run of a finite number and then move onto the next series/something else. They are very likely to base that production number on anticipated demand (for CMFs in general) and likely sales rates, so that the vast majority get sold at RRP in good time - retailers don't want stuff hanging around on shelves for too long. For some they may under-produce to market potential, but for others, like Vidiyo series 1, the market demand wasn't there.

But they don't really know what that will be until at least the start of sales, at which point it's too late to change production as something else is already in place.

If they made CMFs available to order to solve for this, where does that production capacity come from? Their current capacity is going to be pretty maxed out and optimized for selling things in large volume waves, so they can't interrupt it. If they add extra capacity to float on top, it will likely cost more to operate than standard large volume production, so higher costs, and less profitable for LEGO. Not to mention that if they did add more capacity, could they maximize profitability by focusing on yet more high volume production. Or yet another type of mid-small batch production to chase a new market, rather than the tail of an existing market?

Of course, some or all of that could be wrong too, but the answer of 'just make more and be profitable' isn't necessarily true and seems unlikely to lead to optimal profits. Otherwise LEGO would likely already be doing it.

What I really hopes happen is that a chunk of these components make their way into regular retail sets. That opens up more production capacity for them, and, critically, access to individual elements through Pick a Brick.

Ofc without real data we can just assume.

Also lego is a very profiable company alr, they make money anyway. And while ordering cmfs in larger quantities would be great, its also more like wishful thinking, because nobody would order larger quantities for like 99% of CMFs, lol. 

 

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12 hours ago, Grin said:

Am I the only one that founds Strahd's cloak to perfectly complete the Dragonborn Paladin?

I personally think white would work better

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dang, those wolves that come with the beastmaster would come in handy

 

guess I know already which fig will be hard to find, lmao

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On 9/20/2024 at 12:35 PM, Poco Lypso said:

By extremely rare I mean: I can't go out and buy them. It prolly depends where u live and how many shops get them. I checked all shops where I live and all figs are available except for the paladin. So much for the tiny amount of work.

Lego could let people order the ones they want for as long as the cmfs are officially on shelves and just keep producing the ones needed, the paladin ATM.

 

That isn't how it works though. They don't continually produce the CMFs as needed.

 

22 hours ago, Poco Lypso said:

The whole idea of buying blind is to make customers spend more to get what they desire - MTG cards, gacha games and machines, lootboxes, etc. All this has never affected lego CMFs as u could get whatever u wanted by feeling and now, much easier than ever, by simply scanning. Technically there is no reason to keep doing that blind box thing anymore. The only way to buy CMFs blind is to order directly from Lego or maybe online.

 

You can buy blind by going into a store and picking up random packs. You don't have to scan them to identify them before purchase. The new packaging hasn't really changed anything. S1-2 had bar codes, the next few years had dot codes and feeling, then just feeling and now QR codes. They have nearly always been blind but identifiable.

20 hours ago, Poco Lypso said:

Ofc without real data we can just assume.

Also lego is a very profiable company alr, they make money anyway. And while ordering cmfs in larger quantities would be great, its also more like wishful thinking, because nobody would order larger quantities for like 99% of CMFs, lol. 

 

Sure they would. There are nearly always one or two army builders per series. That is way more than 1%.

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13 hours ago, zoth33 said:

I personally think white would work better

Yes, from an aesthetic point of view I may agree.

Pls consider I'm also a D&D nerd, by that point of view the color for the cult of Bahamut are blue and gold (as on the shield). 😉

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On 9/15/2024 at 4:01 AM, T-86(swe) said:

I also find that odd and agree with your statement on the fig. I would have loved to see a great battlehammer or dual wielding axes instead though. Or perhaps a shield to complete the fig. (Coming from a non D&D-player)

Barbarians in DnD can use shields, so there is no lore reason for the Minifig not to have one. If the ‘fig had a printed wooden shield instead of a simple torch, then I think it would be more popular. 
 

On 9/15/2024 at 6:23 PM, hikouki said:

For the minifigs that have dual genders, is there anything in the game that distinguishes those genders, like special accessories, other than just the face? I am a minifig collector and usually like my minifigs displayed. I am seriously thinking of displaying the male and female versions side by side.

The second head is just included so that the builder/player can customise the gender of their character. From what I understand, there are no gender-based traits or bonuses in current DnD (there are species-based abilities/traits/bonuses, but those are being phased out in favour of a better and more adaptable system (abilities are now being tied to character background, not species). 
 

On 9/15/2024 at 9:00 PM, Black Falcon said:

The dwarf has two unique and interesting pieces, which are the axe and the torso, the Lady of Pain got the Head piece, torso, skirt, tile and cloak. So while it might overall be the less interesting character and the dwarf is more suitable for army building, there is still some value in that character. And to be honest, the overall design of the figure just isn´t really good.

I am not saying that the Lady of Pain is not a well-designed, interesting, Minifig - I just mean that I would expect there to be more of a run on the dwarf (like the paladin is experiencing!) than on the LoP. 
 

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