[OFFICIAL] LEGO Icons 10335 The Endurance Ship released Black Friday 2024

[RichardGoring]

Back on topic, I'm curious why people are interested in the sails of this ship, rather than custom making or getting from a third party. My take on preferring LEGO is for the quality, fitment and finish of the plastic elements, all being consistent. These really don't change that much over time. But cloth parts change frequently from LEGO, and don't have anything like the tolerances of the plastic elements. I don't see the value in sticking to only LEGO for these.

Why do you? What value does it bring?

[SpacePolice89]

53 minutes ago, DonQuixote said:

Allright, that's a fair point that I can agree with. But remember, your PlayStation and other electronics are made in China too. 

My phone is a €400 Samsung from 2017 and it's still working. I am texting this right now on this phone. 

That's true but I try to avoid mainland Chinese/dictatorship products as much as possible but sometimes there are unfortunately no realistic alternatives as with the PS you mentioned (although those sold in Japan are made locally). I also use my phones as long as they work. I've used my last three phones until they stopped working. Sometimes I check Eurobricks on my phone but always when I write something I use my computer because I really dislike to type on touchscreens.

6 hours ago, Yperio_Bricks said:

I guess you don't use a phone or electronics with components made in China? Or a car, train, food, medication with Chinese components? Electricity from Chinese solar panels or wind turbines? Clothes or plastics?

Your glorification of the Lego company (i mean the company, not the product) in every one of your posts is unreal. Do you work for Lego?

Did you know that the owner family owns three privat jets that often make the 100km trip from Billund to Odense or vice versa? The planes will fly this route even empty. Did you know that these planes made more than 1000 flights (to various destinations) in the years from 2020 to 2023? They destroy the environment like any other billionaires and only care about money.

I don't care how many planes they own or what they do with them. I'm a firm believer in personal freedom and therefore believe that people shouldn't try to force their lifestyles or ideologies on others.

57 minutes ago, RichardGoring said:

Back on topic, I'm curious why people are interested in the sails of this ship, rather than custom making or getting from a third party. My take on preferring LEGO is for the quality, fitment and finish of the plastic elements, all being consistent. These really don't change that much over time. But cloth parts change frequently from LEGO, and don't have anything like the tolerances of the plastic elements. I don't see the value in sticking to only LEGO for these.

Why do you? What value does it bring?

Lego sails are usually of very good quality so if they are easy to acquire from Pick a Brick or Bricklink I might use them for my own MOCs. And I also like the flag. 

[Dreamweb]

Images of the small GWP set are now also available. It's called Shackleton's Lifeboat, so pretty much as expected.

[RichardGoring]

Such a shame, as the GWP is a really nice little set, and I would absolutely buy it. But the main set doesn't really do it for me.

[Jack Sassy]

Well, I saw this late. It is a lovely design, though not suitable for Pirates at all. Good for Antarctic expedition.  I like the accesories included in that Gift with purchase.

[GeoBrick]

3 hours ago, Jack Sassy said:

Well, I saw this late. It is a lovely design, though not suitable for Pirates at all. Good for Antarctic expedition.  I like the accesories included in that Gift with purchase.

IDK, the ship could be a good base for a Confederate States 'privateer' like the CSS Alabama. The sailing plan is, save for the sails on the main mast, pretty spot on.

[TalonCard]

On 10/30/2024 at 10:30 AM, RichardGoring said:

Back on topic, I'm curious why people are interested in the sails of this ship, rather than custom making or getting from a third party. My take on preferring LEGO is for the quality, fitment and finish of the plastic elements, all being consistent. These really don't change that much over time. But cloth parts change frequently from LEGO, and don't have anything like the tolerances of the plastic elements. I don't see the value in sticking to only LEGO for these.

Why do you? What value does it bring?

Good question! I don't think I could get homemade sails to look right. As for third party sails...those do get better and better every couple of years. I've thought many times about getting some replicas for my display models and MoCs. The biggest blockers for me are:

Price: Because it's such a niche thing, and because real LEGO sails are so expensive, whenever I go to price out sails, they're still just a little too much for it being non-LEGO. That may sound counterintuitive, but even as the actual vintage sails skyrocket, paying $40-50 for a set of non-LEGO sails seems pretty expensive for what you're getting. I'd rather brick build for MOCs at that point. (However, at this point I would definitely consider aftermarket replacements if any of my actual vintage sails were unusable.)

Accessibility: most folks who make these don't have a storefront (real life or digital) I can browse. I've also never seen them in person, so I don't know exactly how they'd look or feel.

Misc: For awhile, the folks who were making these would laser-cut them, so while they looked great otherwise, there was noticeable singeing around the edges that I didn't care for. For classic sails like the OG Clipper and Barracuda, not having the printing on both sides is also something that's a deal breaker, though only in terms of it being a replacement for the sails on the sets. I honestly don't know if this is still the case; I haven't looked in awhile.

 

Edited November 1, 2024 by TalonCard

[RichardGoring]

6 hours ago, TalonCard said:

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Misc: For awhile, the folks who were making these would laser-cut them, so while they looked great otherwise, there was noticeable singeing around the edges that I didn't care for. For classic sails like the OG Clipper and Barracuda, not having the printing on both sides is also not something that's a deal breaker, though only in terms of it being a replacement for the sails on the sets. I honestly don't know if this is still the case; I haven't looked in awhile.

Good point on the laser cut. I bought some third party sails from eBay for Barracuda Bay that were torn/tattered in a jagged pattern, like these - 

They were laser cut and so suffered from the brown edges. I didn't bother me for those, give they were supposed to be ruined, but it would likely be irritating on new, crisp, colourful working sails.

[eldiano]

I was expecting a regular scaled minifig ship, not an actual mini ship. It is what it is though. 

Edited November 2, 2024 by eldiano

[Dreamweb]

Ye all remember this is LEGO right? I'm sure this can be converted into a proper minifig-scaled ship with some effort. Just leave the hull and the masts and replace everything else above and below deck with minifig scale structures, and you can also remove the smokestack if it's not your thing. The brick-built hull does look pretty decent after all.

Which also makes me wonder whether it's possible to easily remove the lower half of the hull to make it look submerged in water, which would be a pretty cool and easily achievable feature. Kinda like the detachable floors of modular buildings etc.

[Jack Sassy]

On 11/1/2024 at 6:56 AM, GeoBrick said:

the ship could be a good base for a Confederate States 'privateer' like the CSS Alabama.

Aye, but those are far more modern pirates of 19th century. Still, this vessel has potential to be something great nonetheless.

[eldiano]

Well the reveal will be this Friday, Lego just put up the Black Friday sets announcement 

[Yperio_Bricks]

The Endurance has been officially revealed. All pictures are out.

[Lyichir]

It looks quite nice—I'm impressed with how detailed it is, even including interiors.

I don't think it's particularly realistic to ever expect an "authentic" sailing ship in minifigure scale, especially one based on a specific real-world ship. The fact of the matter is that real-world ships tend to be extremely big, to the point that making them truly minifigure scale puts them well out of the range of affordability (it's no surprise that even this small-scale Endurance is several hundred dollars). Minifig-scale "playset" ships will likely remain the domain of either original themes like Pirates or IPs like Pirates of the Caribbean, where there's less demand for keeping the floor plan and scale authentic to the real thing.

[Captain Becker]

I mean... Techically speaking you could modify it to have Minifigures, But would it look too silly and small incomparison to the rest of the ship/the sails.... 270 is a salty price.... but 10 sails.... Plus the flag.....  HELP ME! Someone grab me by the shoulders and tell me I dont need it!
 

[eldiano]

Just now, Captain Becker said:

I mean... Techically speaking you could modify it to have Minifigures, But would it look too silly and small incomparison to the rest of the ship/the sails.... 270 is a salty price.... but 10 sails.... Plus the flag.....  HELP ME! Someone grab me by the shoulders and tell me I dont need it!
 

You Don’t Need it

[Yperio_Bricks]

3 minutes ago, Lyichir said:

I don't think it's particularly realistic to ever expect an "authentic" sailing ship in minifigure scale, especially one based on a specific real-world ship. The fact of the matter is that real-world ships tend to be extremely big, to the point that making them truly minifigure scale puts them well out of the range of affordability (it's no surprise that even this small-scale Endurance is several hundred dollars). Minifig-scale "playset" ships will likely remain the domain of either original themes like Pirates or IPs like Pirates of the Caribbean, where there's less demand for keeping the floor plan and scale authentic to the real thing.

I read that the scale of the Endurance is 1:55. That's not too far off of the scale of a minifig at around 1:42. If they choose a smaller ship (with only two masts), it should be possible to get a sailing ship in minifig scale as a set.

[eldiano]

The site is up!
https://www.lego.com/en-us/product/the-endurance-10335

This ship reminds me of the Silent Mary, it came with minifigs but the scale was way off. 

[Murdoch17]

First the Titanic, now the Endurance...

If I had a nickel for every time a LEGO model of a ship that was destroyed by ice was released, I'd have two nickels. Which doesn't sound like much, but it's odd that it's happened twice.

[greg3]

Loving the look of the Endurance glad to see it's nowhere near Titanic price!! (especially as I have a bit of a thing for Polar Exploration!) A definite day 1 purchase for me. The GWP is interesting to see as I've built a MOC of the same boat... think mine's better though, but then I'm biased! 

https://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?/forums/topic/199088-the-james-caird-moc/

[brimbolet]

7 hours ago, Murdoch17 said:

First the Titanic, now the Endurance...

If I had a nickel for every time a LEGO model of a ship that was destroyed by ice was released, I'd have two nickels. Which doesn't sound like much, but it's odd that it's happened twice.

Highly unlikely that Lego will continue this by adding a Soviet era icebreaker to the list, but the rescue of trapped whales in the arctic in 1985 is a very interesting story by the way: https://todayinhistory.blog/2024/02/22/february-22-1985-operation-beluga/

[Murdoch17]

I just saw that Lego set 10335 is (as of this moment) trending on Google search. No idea what that means for future sales data, however.

Edited November 8, 2024 by Murdoch17

[karrit]

I was really leaning toward not getting this but my resolve is cracking.  I remember watching the Kenneth Branagh mini series years ago and found it to be a fascinating story.  This model is a thing of beauty.  

[Captain Becker]

On 11/7/2024 at 6:15 PM, eldiano said:

You Don’t Need it

[GeoBrick]

On 11/8/2024 at 2:39 AM, karrit said:

I was really leaning toward not getting this but my resolve is cracking.  I remember watching the Kenneth Branagh mini series years ago and found it to be a fascinating story.  This model is a thing of beauty.  

I know, right?
The textiles are too good to pass, the hull is pretty well made, first time as far as I can remember there's a steamship of sorts for those who have a weakness for Victorian times,...
And it looks moddable to make the superstructure of the ship fit for minifig format.