Flying Scotsman 4472

[LEGO Train 12 Volts]

Hello everybody,

I left you with the promise of a new project and today I would like to present my version of the Flying Scotsman, in dark green livery and matching wheels!

Credit goes to @damangos, who had designed the model in standard green and black wheels.

For the project I cannibalized the Flying Scotsman set available on Bluebrixx to recover the wheels and as many dark green parts as possible.

Finally, the carriages were the most fun part to make, because their design is very simple and clean.

As usual, the locomotive is equipped with working head and tail lights!

I also made a short video with the Flying Scotsman in action!

See you on the next project!

Edited May 26, 2024 by LEGO Train 12 Volts

[Murdoch17]

Regular green is actually the closest to LNER green, while dark green is more from the BR era. But otherwise, you did well! (How much of it is actual LEGO though @LEGO Train 12 Volts? Just curious, as you mention Blue Brixx....)

[zephyr1934]

Well played! It has the feel of an updated EN. So are those 6x28 train baseplates and bluebrixx tan windows on the cars? It would be interesting to see the cars modified to use 2x2 or 2x4 curved slopes on the bottom of the walls to give more of a classic British coach feel. Interesting use of the 1x6 wagon ends under the cars.

[LEGO Train 12 Volts]

1 hour ago, Murdoch17 said:

(How much of it is actual LEGO though @LEGO Train 12 Volts? Just curious, as you mention Blue Brixx....) 

Excellent question. I used the wheels, the buffers, the plates with the horizontal clip (and also the bar), the train bogie plates, the side panels on which the logo "L N E R" is written, some bricks and plates.
I would say that given 100 the locomotive is 70% Lego.

39 minutes ago, zephyr1934 said:

So are those 6x28 train baseplates and bluebrixx tan windows on the cars?

The windows are Bluebrixx and the wheels too, but not the 6x28 bases (apart from these details the carriages are 99% Lego).
The wheels with the addition of ball bearings are cheaper and better performing than the Lego ones (I'm talking about those with the metal axle...I consider the plastic Lego ones like rubbish )

[Plumber]

Being very picky with regard to the rolling stock - second  class was abolished on UK railways within a few years of their creation (no demand, you were either well to do or poor and it wouldn't be do to be seen mixing!) leaving just first and third class. 

Cream and choc is a GWR livery with LNER using varnished teak coaching stock in the heydey or since your loco is in British Rail  (brunswick) green with Kylap chimney and smoke deflectors putting firmly in later years then Blood and Custard  or all over maroon would be the more likely coach colour!

I like the firebox shaping on the loco - I might have left out the lower handrail for a smoother line as it is very lightweight irl. Being picky again most of the loco's life under nationalisation it carried alternative numbers  (and at least three colours inc blue) so 4472 is probably not right in that colour 

[LEGO Train 12 Volts]

I didn't know about the second class issue, thanks for the information also about the color of the livery  

[JopieK]

8 hours ago, LEGO Train 12 Volts said:

I didn't know about the second class issue, thanks for the information also about the color of the livery  

Always good to have historians around :)

[zephyr1934]

On 5/26/2024 at 12:02 PM, LEGO Train 12 Volts said:

Excellent question. I used the wheels, the buffers, the plates with the horizontal clip (and also the bar), the train bogie plates, the side panels on which the logo "L N E R" is written,

Oh, that's cool that it has printed bricks and until you mentioned it I didn't realize the tender wheels were dark green. Very nice. With the full sized tender and varied coaches this really feels like the train the EN wanted to be

[Feuer Zug]

Wonderful build. The colors look great and the consist is a gem. I'm sure it looks fine on the track, even if the history isn't there.

[LEGO Train 12 Volts]

On 5/28/2024 at 3:27 PM, zephyr1934 said:

Oh, that's cool that it has printed bricks

Hello @zephyr1934, just to be clear, the panels are not printed but I thought it was the best surface for applying my stickers.
The rods are yours obviously!

On 5/28/2024 at 5:32 PM, Feuer Zug said:

I'm sure it looks fine on the track, even if the history isn't there.

I agree with the thought ...thanks @Feuer Zug

[TeddytheSpoon]

Lovely model! I would've said bright green is closer to the LNER apple green, but this shade is an excellent match for its current BR green livery.

Besides - and this goes for the coaches, too - there's always room for a bit of artistic license. Flying Scotsman pulled all sorts of rolling stock on world tours, not to mention that these days steam trains will basically pull whatever heritage railways can get their hands on. And after all, it did make an appearance in Rev W Awdry's Railway Series, so even fitting the Sodor vibe could be considered canon!

[LEGO Train 12 Volts]

On 5/31/2024 at 7:27 AM, TeddytheSpoon said:

Besides - and this goes for the coaches, too - there's always room for a bit of artistic license. Flying Scotsman pulled all sorts of rolling stock on world tours, not to mention that these days steam trains will basically pull whatever heritage railways can get their hands on.

Thank you for the compliments and support @TeddytheSpoon!
This is also my point of view: in my layout there is every kind of train from modern to ancient and all strictly new, shiny and of different nationalities.

[BillytheKid]

Mine idea is a 10194 Emerald Night, replace the buffer at front for a red one and the Flying Scotmann.

Did you wonder why the Flying Scotmann is so famous? Because it is famous . Several rich people had bought the locomotive, but went broke on maintaince costs. Now the Britisch railway museum have bought it and restore it like new and still in use this day.

[zephyr1934]

15 hours ago, BillytheKid said:

Did you wonder why the Flying Scotmann is so famous?

A bit of being in the right place at the right time. It escaped scrapping by fleeing the country and by the time it came back people were starting to think that maybe preserving a few steam locomotives would be a nice thing. So it was one of the first operational preserved locomotives.

[Murdoch17]

13 hours ago, zephyr1934 said:

A bit of being in the right place at the right time. It escaped scrapping by fleeing the country and by the time it came back people were starting to think that maybe preserving a few steam locomotives would be a nice thing. So it was one of the first operational preserved locomotives.

Don't forget it was the first loco to go 100 MPH in a way that could be scientifically substantiated! (Apologies to NYC 999 and City of Turo fans in advance!) Also, it almost didn't make it out of America because it's owner went bankrupt... it could have easily been scrapped here, but thankfully was not.

Edited June 6, 2024 by Murdoch17

[BillytheKid]

I guess the main reason is that it ain't a ugly big black hump of steal. And that it could reach 100 mph/h was also a reason.

[Vilhelm22]

To add to its fame, it was exhibited at the British Empire Exhibition of 1924 (at which point Britain controlled roughly 27% of the world’s total land area) as the LNER’s finest engineering.  Additionally, the Flying Scotsman is an express service between London and Edinburgh which has operated under that name for 100 years.  For many, when they think of a steam locomotive, the picture that comes to mind is her, our beautiful Flying Scotsman.

[LEGO Train 12 Volts]

Wow I didn't know about the 27% coverage @Vilhelm22... and it makes perfect sense given how early the industrial revolution was in UK!

[Kalahari134]

On 6/10/2024 at 1:39 PM, Vilhelm22 said:

To add to its fame, it was exhibited at the British Empire Exhibition of 1924 (at which point Britain controlled roughly 27% of the world’s total land area) as the LNER’s finest engineering.

Parked next to it was 4079 Pendennis Castle, a noticeably smaller locomotive, but which bore a notice proclaiming it to be the most powerful passenger locomotive in the country. This was later proven in exchange trials. 

[SD100]

It really looks nice with the matching wheels. I also built one from DaMango's instructions, but in normal green, I've got to pick up green wheels for it. The best part was showing it running at a show to a family friend who actually rode the tender pushing coal on it's US tour from NY to California. Seventy year old man sat right down on the floor to watch it going by at track level because it brought back so many memories for him.

SD

[LEGO Train 12 Volts]

On 6/30/2024 at 7:53 AM, SD100 said:

Seventy year old man sat right down on the floor to watch it going by at track level because it brought back so many memories for him. 

Wow, this is a beautiful testimony...I often do the same and feel like a child again!