[TC27] Technic 49.5 x 20 Tire Vehicle Contest - Discussion Topic

[Jim]

1 hour ago, howitzer said:

My interpretation of the spirit of the contest is that it should disallow airplanes while allowing amphibious cars and such. Autonomous rovers such as the one above should also be allowed.

You totally understand the spirit of the contest. This is exactly what we have in mind.

[m00se]

3 hours ago, Jim said:

I agree. Let’s stick to vehicles which use the wheels for their primary movement function.

Soon we'll need a lawyer to write the contest rules ;-)

 

But joking aside, that's a very clear rule.

[bruh]

One question: the rules state that it needs to be a studless entry; is it allowed to use studfull pieces for decoration, on the inside and outside? Or is that also not allowed?

/Also, is Buwizz allowed?? Earlier, someone asked if they could control a model using Buwizz, but that's not Lego! Thoughts?

[Jim]

Studfull decoration is absolutely allowed. As lomg as it is decoration and not “model team” or “creator expert”. 
 

Buwizz is allowed. Sbricks too.

3 hours ago, m00se said:

Soon we'll need a lawyer to write the contest rules ;-)

 

But joking aside, that's a very clear rule.

Lol

[Ngoc Nguyen]

15 hours ago, Ngoc Nguyen said:

To save time and cost I use rendered photos. For the contest I will build a physical model, of course. But am I allowed to use rendered photos in the photos of the entry? Or at least can I use rendered photos for the photos showing the functions only, while still using photos of the real model for full body shots?

@Jim Can you help me with this please

[Jim]

21 hours ago, Ngoc Nguyen said:

To save time and cost I use rendered photos. 

There is ample time, so that's no excuse. How does it save money? 

[Jundis]

Discussion is really funny 

'Build a vehicle with 4 or 6 wheels' - - > first thing that comes in mind is a plane 

@Jim I know you don't like too much restriction, but the addition of the term 'truck' would have prevented this an left open many possibilities still 

[howitzer]

3 minutes ago, Jundis said:

Discussion is really funny 

'Build a vehicle with 4 or 6 wheels' - - > first thing that comes in mind is a plane 

@Jim I know you don't like too much restriction, but the addition of the term 'truck' would have prevented this an left open many possibilities still 

Then there would be a discussion over the definition of "truck" and whether passenger cars are allowed 

[Ngoc Nguyen]

1 hour ago, Jim said:

How does it save money? 

I don't have a good photo taking device or a white background so I used to book a photographer to handle the photos and the PNG files. 

[Jim]

9 minutes ago, Ngoc Nguyen said:

I don't have a good photo taking device or a white background so I used to book a photographer to handle the photos and the PNG files. 

LoL 

But you can simply take some pictures with your smart phone. Just use a neutral background. Doesn't have to be white.

I went through the previous contest and none of the entries used digital artwork, so let's stick to actual photo's and videos. You can create an animated picture as long as it's based on actual images.

[everybrickasculpture]

What about brushless motors and things like geekservos?

[bruh]

8 hours ago, Jundis said:

Discussion is really funny 

'Build a vehicle with 4 or 6 wheels' - - > first thing that comes in mind is a plane 

@Jim I know you don't like too much restriction, but the addition of the term 'truck' would have prevented this an left open many possibilities still 

I know! I have an idea, but we'll see if it works out. Also, @everybrickasculpture, I'm pretty sure that brushless motors aren't allowed. If I'm correct, @Jim, they have to be Lego compatible, like Buwizz and SBrick, right? 

Also, one more thing. Are studfull pieces allowed as a kind of submodel? For instance, an engine. From a non-functional viewpoint, it would look more realistic if it was made of studfull pieces. Would that be allowed?

BTW, I know that we are discussing the life and breath out of this topic, so sorry lol.

[Jim]

8 hours ago, Jundis said:

 I know you don't like too much restriction, but the addition of the term 'truck' would have prevented this an left open many possibilities still 

Yeah, I'm sure adding truck would have helped a lot 

2 hours ago, everybrickasculpture said:

What about brushless motors and things like geekservos?

I don't even know what those are lol. I guess I know Geekservos. But no.

Buwizz and SBricks are two commonly used products here in Technic, so we usually allow those when we allow motorization. And Buwizz and SBricks are hubs, not motors.

42 minutes ago, bruh said:

Also, one more thing. Are studfull pieces allowed as a kind of submodel? For instance, an engine. From a non-functional viewpoint, it would look more realistic if it was made of studfull pieces. Would that be allowed?

Yeah, I guess that's okay. 

43 minutes ago, bruh said:

BTW, I know that we are discussing the life and breath out of this topic, so sorry lol.

Well, it's basically the only fun I have during this contest   

(just kidding, I love to see the builds)

You guys never cease to amaze me and you never disappoint. "Build a vehicle with four or six wheels". It all sounds so simple 

[bruh]

2 minutes ago, Jim said:

 

I don't even know what those are lol. I guess I know Geekservos. But no.

Buwizz and SBricks are two commonly used products here in Technic, so we usually allow those when we allow motorization. And Buwizz and SBricks are hubs, not motors.

 

Brushless motors and Geekservos are motors/servos used in regular RC cars. Some people, such as vergogneless and lixander, use brushless motors and (I think) geekservos, but those are usually non-Lego compatible.

[SaperPL]

@Jim Two questions:

1. Does wheels needing to drive the vehicle means they need to be douching the floor for driving or can they be used in the drive system in some other rotary action to propel the vehicle? For example used as clutch in drive system, used as drive sprocket in a tank, used to transfer rotation input to some walking system?
2. Will taking out springs out of shock absorbers be treated as part modifying?

[Milan]

3 hours ago, SaperPL said:

@Jim Two questions:

1. Does wheels needing to drive the vehicle means they need to be douching the floor for driving or can they be used in the drive system in some other rotary action to propel the vehicle? For example used as clutch in drive system, used as drive sprocket in a tank, used to transfer rotation input to some walking system?
2. Will taking out springs out of shock absorbers be treated as part modifying?

Jim will be away for a few days.

1. Wheels need to be used to drive the vehicle. So not as a part of the transmission or other mechanisms. You can use extra wheels for decorative purposes.

2. You can take out the springs.

[Jurss]

8 hours ago, Milan said:

2. You can take out the springs.

So, You are saying that something like this is also allowed?

[Ngoc Nguyen]

@Jim @Milan My backhoe uses 4 wheels while the rules allow 6 wheels maximum, so can I give my backhoe a 2-wheel trailer?

[bruh]

4 hours ago, Ngoc Nguyen said:

@Jim @Milan My backhoe uses 4 wheels while the rules allow 6 wheels maximum, so can I give my backhoe a 2-wheel trailer?

I mean, yeah, probably, but will a trailer on a backhoe look good?? I’m really curious now.

[Ngoc Nguyen]

42 minutes ago, bruh said:

I mean, yeah, probably, but will a trailer on a backhoe look good?? I’m really curious now.

A compact backhoe mostly works inside a city so occasionally it has a trailer that carries different tools that the  backhoe can swap around for.

[bruh]

Ok. I took a look at your topic and realized I was thinking of a slightly different machine. That would look good, especially if you plan to make the attachments for it!

[JLiu15]

Sounds like an exciting contest!

Since I'm a bus enthusiast I was thinking of doing a new bus model for this submission (two of mine already used 49.5x20 wheels). But then the model has to be non-licensed and studless. I've built a Kenworth T600 with 49.5x20 wheels around the time the 42078 Mack Anthem set came out. It's studless, but still a licensed model.

Time to get a little creative...

[Milan]

On 6/21/2024 at 7:12 AM, Jurss said:

So, You are saying that something like this is also allowed?

I believe we used to allow disassembling the shock absorber, so yes.

20 hours ago, Ngoc Nguyen said:

@Jim @Milan My backhoe uses 4 wheels while the rules allow 6 wheels maximum, so can I give my backhoe a 2-wheel trailer?

Focus should be on the vehicle itself.
Let's agree on this when Jim is back.

[efgen86]

I wanted to clarify whether the wheels on the lift axle can be considered decorative (as in set 42128).

[bruh]

Ooh, that’s an interesting idea. The main question is, will they be able to be lowered? Because if not, then maybe they WOULD be decorative.