[ENTRY] [LARGE] Steve's Doom

[MyFirstMOC-Hun]

Steve's Doom

[ENG] I've previously described Steve's miserable fate as a castaway who settled into a deserted outpost (Steve's Hideout). This MOC shows him heroically fighting off his attacker. 

[HUN] Korábban már leírtam Steve hányatatott sorsát, ahogy hajótöröttként berendezkedett egy elhagyatott kis helyőrségben (Steve's Hideout). Ez a MOC azt mutatja meg ahogy hősiesen küzdött a támadója ellen.

 

Edited August 7, 2024 by MyFirstMOC-Hun

[Garmadon]

Lovely frame, the water and island look quite pretty too against the brown and gold you've got going on there!  In general the ship is quite nice as well (those brown bars for rigging at this scale are great!), but I think it's a bit too chaotic for the eye to capture what's happening   Going a bit simpler, maybe less colors (I know the red and white sails and the black in the hull are obvious Classic Pirate references, but if you were to make the sails all white, the lower hull and masts all brown (or dark brown ) except the cannons, and keep the black, yellow and red for a few highlights and deck details (like maybe a black capstan, yellow railings, and some red on the flags) I feel like the overall visual impact would be much stronger and the explosions and wreckage would stand out a lot more clearly.  At any rate, if you give it a try I'd love to see how you mod it!  

Otherwise, as I said on your other entry, I'm loving the presentation and the system style branding!  I hope at least some of the suggestions are useful, if not for this than for future builds!    Keep up the good work!

[Math Wizard]

Ahoy Matey!

They call me Captain Crit in these parts and I heard that polly’s still hungry and wants another sandwich (They’re still fed up with crackers apparently) - a criticism sandwich that is! (For you landlubbers, that’s 3 seas [Cs]- Compliment, Constructive Criticism, and another Compliment).

Ye did a great job buildin’ this and connectin’ it to yer other build! The classic background is also a fun touch once again. 

There only be a few wee things I can think of to make this better. THe first is similar to what has already been said- the scene seems a little too busy, making it hard to focus on something. THe second thing would be it’d be great if Steve could be included somwhow, since the contest is all about him. Whether integrated into the base or created as a wee stack o’ plates, or even added as a graphic to a clear 1x1 brick as was done in another entry, this would make the build a wee bit mmore fitting. 

Me favorite part o’ this build is the tray that it sits in. The reddish brown and gold nicely constrasts with the light blue and is a good way to frame the edges of the build. I also like all the ways you showed action in the build, from thte firing cannons to the cannonballs landing in the sea or hitting the ship, down to the tattered sail where the cannonball hit. 

Fair Winds Matey!

[MyFirstMOC-Hun]

51 minutes ago, Math Wizard said:

Ahoy Matey!

They call me Captain Crit in these parts and I heard that polly’s still hungry and wants another sandwich (They’re still fed up with crackers apparently) - a criticism sandwich that is! (For you landlubbers, that’s 3 seas [Cs]- Compliment, Constructive Criticism, and another Compliment).

Ye did a great job buildin’ this and connectin’ it to yer other build! The classic background is also a fun touch once again. 

There only be a few wee things I can think of to make this better. THe first is similar to what has already been said- the scene seems a little too busy, making it hard to focus on something. THe second thing would be it’d be great if Steve could be included somwhow, since the contest is all about him. Whether integrated into the base or created as a wee stack o’ plates, or even added as a graphic to a clear 1x1 brick as was done in another entry, this would make the build a wee bit mmore fitting. 

Me favorite part o’ this build is the tray that it sits in. The reddish brown and gold nicely constrasts with the light blue and is a good way to frame the edges of the build. I also like all the ways you showed action in the build, from thte firing cannons to the cannonballs landing in the sea or hitting the ship, down to the tattered sail where the cannonball hit. 

Fair Winds Matey!

Thank you for your comments. I don't feel crammed in this little diorama, but I'll take it if it is for you. I'd say you can find details that you like even after looking at them several times. Yes, I've thought about how to incorporate Steve's figure, but the proportions are not necessarily right. And showing Him, in any form, would have made it worse. However, there was a version of this set where he was just standing in the middle as a minifigure where the board is now. You know, like you do with UCS sets. But in the end I didn't like it.

15 hours ago, Garmadon said:

Lovely frame, the water and island look quite pretty too against the brown and gold you've got going on there!  In general the ship is quite nice as well (those brown bars for rigging at this scale are great!), but I think it's a bit too chaotic for the eye to capture what's happening   Going a bit simpler, maybe less colors (I know the red and white sails and the black in the hull are obvious Classic Pirate references, but if you were to make the sails all white, the lower hull and masts all brown (or dark brown ) except the cannons, and keep the black, yellow and red for a few highlights and deck details (like maybe a black capstan, yellow railings, and some red on the flags) I feel like the overall visual impact would be much stronger and the explosions and wreckage would stand out a lot more clearly.  At any rate, if you give it a try I'd love to see how you mod it!  

Otherwise, as I said on your other entry, I'm loving the presentation and the system style branding!  I hope at least some of the suggestions are useful, if not for this than for future builds!    Keep up the good work!

You're right about the sail, because it might have been better with just white and the familiar coat of arms logo, but that hadn't occurred to me before. Maybe the cannon is a bit much for a merchant ship, but I wanted to show the atmosphere of a fierce battle. As well as the crowdedness. As I answered above, I like it that way because there are always new little things to discover in the set. It's definitely nice to get feedback on one of my MOCs, thanks to you for that too. I'm glad you like it. 😉🍻🏴‍☠️

 

Edited June 27, 2024 by MyFirstMOC-Hun

[SevenDeadlyStreamers]

Very nice mini-build. The ship and all the accessories are the right proportions. I especially like the cannon fire and water splashes! My only critique is that it appears quite busy from some angles. Maybe a larger diorama base would have helped with that, but I wouldn’t change anything, it is very well designed!

[MyFirstMOC-Hun]

33 minutes ago, SevenDeadlyStreamers said:

Very nice mini-build. The ship and all the accessories are the right proportions. I especially like the cannon fire and water splashes! My only critique is that it appears quite busy from some angles. Maybe a larger diorama base would have helped with that, but I wouldn’t change anything, it is very well designed!

Thank you very much! 🍻🏴‍☠️😉😎

[Horation]

Excellent micro-build, I appreciate the originality and it really captures the barracuda's looks. But, a few small things do bother me : the cannons should shoot out smoke (using a white ice cream piece), and, for the same reasons, the water splashes should be white, since that's what they'd look like.

Alternatively, maybe try to make the background of a different colour? Since this is a digital build, it looks very clean, so a natural colour background (like light beige, or some light grey) would really make it seem "dirtier" (more natural).

I do like the display stand, and the small details give it life which larger builds would struggle to pull off. Good job!

[MyFirstMOC-Hun]

5 minutes ago, Horation said:

Excellent micro-build, I appreciate the originality and it really captures the barracuda's looks. But, a few small things do bother me : the cannons should shoot out smoke (using a white ice cream piece), and, for the same reasons, the water splashes should be white, since that's what they'd look like.

Alternatively, maybe try to make the background of a different colour? Since this is a digital build, it looks very clean, so a natural colour background (like light beige, or some light grey) would really make it seem "dirtier" (more natural).

I do like the display stand, and the small details give it life which larger builds would struggle to pull off. Good job!

I thought about this solution for the cannon, but in the end I preferred the fire, because I liked it better. I don't like the white water splash. It would look somehow foreign on the diorama. Plus the splash brick is not in white I think. Thank you very much for your review! 👍😉🏴‍☠️🍻

[Horation]

4 minutes ago, MyFirstMOC-Hun said:

I thought about this solution for the cannon, but in the end I preferred the fire [...] It would look somehow foreign on the diorama. Plus the splash brick is not in white I think. 

Fair enough, but I do have to ask, are those 1 by 2 tiles battle damage or small boats? If they are the first, why not add a small flag (there's this one mini imperial trading outpost which does it quite well using an armour piece). If they are the latter, why not add some battle damage? (Silencing one of the guns, for instance).

[MyFirstMOC-Hun]

22 minutes ago, Horation said:

Fair enough, but I do have to ask, are those 1 by 2 tiles battle damage or small boats? If they are the first, why not add a small flag (there's this one mini imperial trading outpost which does it quite well using an armour piece). If they are the latter, why not add some battle damage? (Silencing one of the guns, for instance).

This is one of the mistakes in the set. It was originally supposed to be a shipwreck. Now I could say boats but if they were boats I would have used a different element. So those were left as battle damage. 

[Horation]

47 minutes ago, MyFirstMOC-Hun said:

This is one of the mistakes in the set. It was originally supposed to be a shipwreck. Now I could say boats but if they were boats I would have used a different element. So those were left as battle damage. 

If you want to simply remove them, it'll help, as the build is more than detailed enough to compensate for their disappearance, or alternatively, go fully for the damage and lower one of the masts, it would make the boat look more consistently ravaged by the battle.

[MyFirstMOC-Hun]

3 hours ago, Horation said:

If you want to simply remove them, it'll help, as the build is more than detailed enough to compensate for their disappearance, or alternatively, go fully for the damage and lower one of the masts, it would make the boat look more consistently ravaged by the battle.

Okay, I'll look at it that way. But it may end up as you wrote, that I just remove both.

[Horation]

Other than that , you could simply end up adding a mini Steve on one of those 1x2s (a 1x1 transparent brick approximation of him, or a custom sticker like in the mini imperial trading outpost I've seen in another post in this contest). This would make it look like a raft or a boat which he's escaping on, and would comply with the "Steve must be in the build" criterion

[Math Wizard]

21 hours ago, MyFirstMOC-Hun said:

This is one of the mistakes in the set. It was originally supposed to be a shipwreck. Now I could say boats but if they were boats I would have used a different element. So those were left as battle damage. 

You could perhaps also but a gray cheese slope nearby, and maybe use both a brown tile and brown grill (or cheesegrater slope) so it would look like a small shipwreck from a previous time to show the dangers of these waters if you didn't want to directly show damage to the ship

[Captain Pirate Man]

Nice micro build, I especially like the frame you built for the build, with Steve's Doom written on it. Having said that, can we get a little more background on what's going on here? Is Steve on the ship? If so, what is he doing on it?

[MyFirstMOC-Hun]

3 hours ago, Captain Pirate Man said:

Nice micro build, I especially like the frame you built for the build, with Steve's Doom written on it. Having said that, can we get a little more background on what's going on here? Is Steve on the ship? If so, what is he doing on it?

The background to the story is in Steve's Hideout.

[Captain Pirate Man]

5 hours ago, MyFirstMOC-Hun said:

The background to the story is in Steve's Hideout.

Yes, I have since seen that. 

[Mazin]

Hm... i like Your build and the presentatin is amazing, i think that this would even look better without all the battle elements, but honestly i can't see how it conects to Steve, except of the signboard :( EDIT: ok, i see it now, after reading Your other entry, but with miniatures, it's tricky and unfriendly territory if one wants to tell any story :) 

With Your skills i'd totaly love to see the entire battle picture this way, tiny tiny ships damaged by pirates in a foggy or smoky environment :) 

But the greatest part of this set is the base itself, stunning! 

[BardDandelion]

Nice, unique build in the competition (most other entries are not in miniscale).

My favourite details are splashes of water from the cannonballs - really great effect and reuse of part, just in different color. Not sure if I ever saw this part used for water splash, for some reason fire with trans-range is much more common in MOCs.

The second best detail is tord sail made with this new weird part. Great idea.

Not sure about 1x2 tiles in the water. Are they supposed to be demaged parts of the ship? Maybe something smaller would work better instead?

[YellowFrog]

I was wondering... Is the compass above the ship symbolising a flag? Or is it some sort of actual compass or clock that I was unaware ships had?

Edited August 6, 2024 by YellowFrog

[Horation]

It is either

a) a flag design/decoration that the author put in there for improving the looks

or b) intended to be a part of the platform the ship's lookout stands on

[SevenDeadlyStreamers]

You may have already answered this question, but I was wondering why the choice of red and white stripes on Steve’s vessel? It certainly makes you instantly think “pirate ship” but I was just curious about the design choice. 

[MyFirstMOC-Hun]

4 minutes ago, SevenDeadlyStreamers said:

You may have already answered this question, but I was wondering why the choice of red and white stripes on Steve’s vessel? It certainly makes you instantly think “pirate ship” but I was just curious about the design choice. 

I was referring to the early pirates legos, anything else would be an explanation. 

2 hours ago, YellowFrog said:

I was wondering... is the compass above the ship symbolising a flag, or is it some sort of actual compass or clock that I was unaware ships had?

I was clearly only thinking of it as a flag design.

1 hour ago, Horation said:

It is either

a) a flag design/decoration that the author put in there for improving the looks

or b) intended to be a part of the platform the ship's lookout stands on

A)

3 hours ago, BardDandelion said:

Nice, unique build in the competition (most other entries are not in miniscale).

My favourite details are splashes of water from the cannonballs - really great effect and reuse of part, just in different color. Not sure if I ever saw this part used for water splash, for some reason fire with trans-range is much more common in MOCs.

The second best detail is tord sail made with this new weird part. Great idea.

Not sure about 1x2 tiles in the water. Are they supposed to be demaged parts of the ship? Maybe something smaller would work better instead?

Originally it was really supposed to be the darbs of the boat, but I don't like this detail as much as I did when I left it in. There should be other ways to make them not so big. Or I could say that these are the lifeboats. But that's just a weak solution

[BardDandelion]

@MyFirstMOC-Hun Yeah, I also thought these could be life boats (or in case of pirate ship just boats :D) but given the level of details in everything else in the build these simple tiles would be very weak representation of them. 

If you would like to make some demaged pieces of ship floating in the water maybe some plant parts would be good? In general, these are small, in right shape and available in right colors (reddish brown in that case). Both Carrot Top 33183 and Plant Flower Stem with Bar and 3 Stems Short 68211 would work here as e.g. parts of mast.

Oh! You could also use some SNOT techniques and use tiles but "hide" some parts of them in the base, making just little part (0.5 plate) above water level.

[YellowFrog]

Was this based off a real ship? If so, this could answer our questions.