Satisfied Posted January 6 Posted January 6 don't know when Ferrari's red small sports car will appear Quote
Fabulous Fox Posted January 9 Posted January 9 (edited) I know it's wishful thinking, but personally, I would like Lego to give us something great - something challenging. Something with a little bit of everything. Not simple functions, but complex, realistic ones that are also structurally sound and difficult to build with proper instructions. I want to STRUGGLE putting it together. I want to have to struggle with pneumatic spaghetti, struggle with rigging string, struggle with 100 different things going on in a chassis while also needing high dexterity to put things together. I want it to feel like I’m accomplishing something huge. I want wires everywhere, a maze of parts, a maze that is hard to navigate. The ONLY times I’ve EVER had a remotely difficult time putting an official LEGO set together was maybe with the 42043’s pneumatic tubing and the 8043’s wires. Imagine a huge mobile crane like 42009 or a huge tow truck like 8285, but with full RC, realistic suspension with proper geometry, a transmission with new parts that reduce space and friction, lights, fun controls, challenging building, new parts, pneumatics AND LAs, more powerful motors, electronics, and parts for driving, new motors for activating the pneumatic switches, good looks, demanding presence, big, detailed box, new solutions that minimize friction, etc. All while having 3000-4000 parts like recent flagships. So be it if they're expensive. I understand it's difficult to get companies to think like this long-term, and it may not even be the right decision in the first place, but it's just what I personally wish (as I'm sure we all do). Oh, and while they’re at it, give me a B model as well. Actually no, scratch 3-4K pieces, give me a 10K+ piece Technic flagship that costs $1,000. Wouldn’t that feel so good? Edited January 10 by Fabulous Fox Redundancy Quote
Frequenzberater Posted January 10 Posted January 10 I never understood what people claims to be "challening" when there are proper instructions. Just put it together step for step as shown on the actual page. What exactly would make a Lego set challening to build from your point of view? Quote
gyenesvi Posted January 10 Posted January 10 6 hours ago, Frequenzberater said: I never understood what people claims to be "challening" when there are proper instructions. Just put it together step for step as shown on the actual page. What exactly would make a Lego set challening to build from your point of view? Yeah, I kind of agree with this, just making it physically challenging for the fingers does not make too much sense I guess, maybe you should try designing your own models @Fabulous Fox, have you tried that? That's an entirely different challenge compared to following instructions, and I guarantee you can spend endless time with rebuilding and perfecting stuff :) Also, you can make things so dense that it'll even be a struggle to put things together. I am just building something that where I already see that it will be a pain to route electronics and pneumatics in a tight space.. Quote
Stereo Posted January 10 Posted January 10 Yeah, I've made stuff that's hard to assemble and it doesn't need a lot of parts, just density and structures where none of the subcomponents are stable on their own. For example this MOC is completely solid when it's done, but needs a lot of dexterity to get it to that point. And if you want it to be even harder, do like me and build it with 24316 3l axle with stop, instead of 77765 pins. Quote
Lyichir Posted January 10 Posted January 10 7 hours ago, Frequenzberater said: I never understood what people claims to be "challening" when there are proper instructions. Just put it together step for step as shown on the actual page. What exactly would make a Lego set challening to build from your point of view? A part of it is that spacial reasoning doesn't come as naturally to everyone. As a kid (I think around 9 years old?) I had a birthday party where everyone got Throwbots sets as party favors (about as simple as Technic can get) and while I was used to that style of building, many of my peers had trouble with a set which had parts attached in all directions with no obvious "up" or "down". Another aspect of difficulty is "how punishing is it to make mistakes?" In a typical Lego set having a part misaligned by a unit or two isn't always a deal-breaker, and even when it does cause issues it doesn't always take a ton of disassembly to correct. By comparison making a mistake in a larger Technic set can cause major issues and mistakes can be hard to identify after the fact, let alone correct (in some cases requiring major disassembly to even access the area where the mistake was made). Quote
MarkyMark42 Posted January 11 Posted January 11 16 hours ago, Frequenzberater said: I never understood what people claims to be "challening" when there are proper instructions. Just put it together step for step as shown on the actual page. What exactly would make a Lego set challening to build from your point of view? My thoughts on this are that without building your own design, the biggest challenge today would be the dexterity required in assembling some sections. Aside from that the majority of mistakes that I've made personally have been from lack of concentration or distraction while building. I will say though when you look at an instruction manual from 20-30yrs ago compared to a manual from today and it's quite noticeable how much they've been "dumbed down". Whether the set is 6+, 12+, 18+, whatever, the instructions still read like they're aimed at a 6+ builder. Maybe something to consider for Lego would be an 18+ set having instructions aimed at 18+ builders? Quote
Milan Posted January 11 Posted January 11 Let's discuss the 2025 sets in this topic. Use proper topics for wishes and speculations. Quote
technicfan93 Posted January 13 Posted January 13 I wish lego made something like the osprey that has propellers and VTOL mode or a motorized plane like the cargo plane. Quote
1gor Posted January 13 Posted January 13 10 hours ago, technicfan93 said: I wish lego made something like the osprey that has propellers and VTOL mode or a motorized plane like the cargo plane. We have this topic https://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?/forums/topic/94328-future-set-wishes-and-speculation/ Quote
Milan Posted January 13 Posted January 13 10 hours ago, technicfan93 said: I wish lego made something like the osprey that has propellers and VTOL mode or a motorized plane like the cargo plane. Hey Technicfan, please use this topic for wishes and speculations. That way, we can keep this topic clean and tidy for 2025 Technic sets. Thanks. Quote
Maaboo the Witch Posted January 14 Posted January 14 I think it's more or less a foregone conclusion that the Volvo will use the tyres from 42160. Quote
msk6003 Posted January 14 Posted January 14 Than super rare part 56908 wheel on yellow will come too. (4 in 1 set currently) Quote
R0Sch Posted January 14 Posted January 14 RIP PoweredUp. This will be the new motorization system: Quote
NV Lego technic Posted January 14 Posted January 14 That is not practical at all, the things on the side are bulky. Also, this seems to be just Lego education, is it confirmed that it will appear in technic? Quote
AVCampos Posted January 14 Posted January 14 Powered Up also appeared in Education when Technic and everyone else was in Power Functions, so there's a precedent. If they're independent modules, each with its rechargeable battery and communicating with each other via Bluetooth, there's the hope that they're interoperable with PU, or that at least Pybricks can swoop in to save the day once again. Quote
zoo Posted January 14 Posted January 14 2 hours ago, Maaboo the Witch said: I think it's more or less a foregone conclusion that the Volvo will use the tyres from 42160. Are we sure it will not be the 1989 Batmobile tires? Quote
R0Sch Posted January 14 Posted January 14 As @AVCampos writes there is precedent and it's clear from the disappearance of PUp from lego.com that the system is dead. The RC Porsche GT4 also uses a USB-C rechargeable hub similar to these. Spike had the same angular motors as Technic sets used and also some miniature ones. Now I only hope we will see sensors and smart hubs in Technic too, since Mindstorms is also dead and burried and Education sets are never available in retail. Quote
Stereo Posted January 14 Posted January 14 (edited) I wonder how you 'pair' stuff without a hub, looks like the salmon brick is a controller with 2 axes and the teal ones are motors. Maybe you link them all to a phone, program the network topology and then it sticks? Edited January 14 by Stereo Quote
AVCampos Posted January 14 Posted January 14 3 minutes ago, R0Sch said: and Education sets are never available in retail. Well, the main SPIKE Prime set (and also its first expansion, IIRC) was available to the public through the LEGO Shop site, at least for a while. 1 minute ago, Stereo said: I wonder how you 'pair' stuff without a hub, looks like the salmon brick is a controller with 2 axes and the teal ones are motors. Maybe you link them all to a phone, program the network topology and then it sticks? For many toy drones, Chinese PF-compatible systems, and the PU train hub with its controller. you press a button on one of the devices to turn it on and enter pairing mode, then press a button on the other device to do the same, and then they pair with each other and can be used together. The same UI could be in use here. Quote
R0Sch Posted January 14 Posted January 14 3 minutes ago, AVCampos said: Well, the main SPIKE Prime set (and also its first expansion, IIRC) was available to the public through the LEGO Shop site, at least for a while. Yes, but Lego shop is not retail. It's D2C. Quote
2GodBDGlory Posted January 14 Posted January 14 This new electronics system is interesting! I really, really can't see Lego using these motors in Technic sets, though, just due to their extremely studded body shells. Could studless motors with the same functionality come to Technic? That seems more possible, but I still don't think it too likely. Internal batteries for every motor would be seriously expensive for a non-educational set, and it seems like the whole ecosystem is too education/programming based to be an at all workable system for Technic sets. Still, it's interesting to see that Lego is developing new electronics! It would definitely seem that PU is ending its run, so it'll be interesting to see what replaces it. Quote
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