5 minutes ago, 2GodBDGlory said:

This new electronics system is interesting! I really, really can't see Lego using these motors in Technic sets, though, just due to their extremely studded body shells. Could studless motors with the same functionality come to Technic? That seems more possible, but I still don't think it too likely. Internal batteries for every motor would be seriously expensive for a non-educational set, and it seems like the whole ecosystem is too education/programming based to be an at all workable system for Technic sets.

Still, it's interesting to see that Lego is developing new electronics! It would definitely seem that PU is ending its run, so it'll be interesting to see what replaces it.

Exactly. Only make something like a small spike motor available in technic form.

2 hours ago, zoo said:

Are we sure it will not be the 1989 Batmobile tires?

No. But the Audi tyres would look way better. I don't see why TLG wouldn't use them.

Oh, new electronics is a promising sign! But I as well can't imagine a system like this, even in different form factor, for RC technic sets. So I am hoping that they realized that the programmability thing for technic was not the most popular idea and they just separate Technic from the Education line and make something more plug and play for technic, such as physical controller.. Just hope we don't end up with something even worse, such as controllers tied (via firmware) to official sets..

I seriously doubt the possibility of motors and batteries in one for technic sets, as a system like PF/PU with interchangeable components. But at the same time, maybe it is cheaper R&D wise to make a specialised new hub unit thing for every model than to design a generic reusable system, and part of a broader shift in focus for TLG. Like how we're seeing a shift from generic "do it all" elements to more specialised "do it properly" elements. (specialised new tires for vehicles, bevel and non bevel gears, new porsche hub)

11 hours ago, R0Sch said:

RIP PoweredUp. This will be the new motorization system:

 

Ist the plug in the devices USB-C?

39 minutes ago, Andman said:

Ist the plug in the devices USB-C?

yes, small recharegables inside

It would suck if there won't be any backward compatibility at all with PU motors. Also I can't see them making motorized sets where every motor etc. includes rechargeable batteries, as those require special handling in shipping etc. so I think there'll be some kind of hub that can take AA/AAA-batteries and the usual motors with wires. An integrated battery would also make motors much larger, which would be undesirable regarding set design, especially when there's multiple motors.

10 hours ago, gyenesvi said:

Oh, new electronics is a promising sign! But I as well can't imagine a system like this, even in different form factor, for RC technic sets. So I am hoping that they realized that the programmability thing for technic was not the most popular idea and they just separate Technic from the Education line and make something more plug and play for technic, such as physical controller.. Just hope we don't end up with something even worse, such as controllers tied (via firmware) to official sets..

Agreed. While it's interesting to see new electronics and a possible confirmation that PU is gone, I don't see this particular new system being good for Technic. Having to charge each motor individually and turn on/off each one wouldn't be fun play time. Being able to code and program stuff is one thing but they need to get the basics right first, like simple, inexpensive plug and play operation, like the 9v system or PF. Then if they want to add other functionality like basic RC then add receivers and physical remotes like PF, and if they want to add more advanced programming options/RC then have something like the control center that doubles as a big, fully programmable physical remote, or even the code pilot from the 9v system. There shouldn't be any need to be tied to  third party smart devices or computers.

I hope this isn’t the replacement for PU.  This is even worse.  Let’s go back to PF with Bluetooth receivers. 

52 minutes ago, dhc6twinotter said:

I hope this isn’t the replacement for PU.  This is even worse.  Let’s go back to PF with Bluetooth receivers. 

I agree. Or with radio receivers, some of the chinese fake pf receivers use 2.4ghz, so there's no reason lego couldn't do the same.

48 minutes ago, Aurorasaurus said:

some of the chinese fake pf receivers use 2.4ghz, so there's no reason lego couldn't do the same.

Maybe for safety and/or RF radiation regulations?

2 hours ago, AVCampos said:

Maybe for safety and/or RF radiation regulations?

I wouldn't think so, otherwise all the RC products would have the same problem, no?

3 hours ago, dhc6twinotter said:

Let’s go back to PF with Bluetooth receivers. 

But yeah, essentially that, would be good enough (as a start)!

And proper servos for god's sake! They are used everywhere and cheap and precise.. shouldn't be too hard to integrate. I think they could actually fit into the PU system even, where the system can recognise the motor and emit the proper signal..

42 minutes ago, gyenesvi said:

And proper servos for god's sake! 

THIS. I didnt get what all the fuss was about til I used proper servos, now its honestly really unpleasant using the makeshift solutions lego has done in the past. They're cheap and precise and strong. Whats not to love?

12 hours ago, AVCampos said:

Maybe for safety and/or RF radiation regulations?

It must be a radio certification issue. At least in Korea where I live, any device that uses radio waves must be certified for sale. However, infrared and Bluetooth do not fall under this category, which is why PF and PU used infrared and Bluetooth, respectively.

17 hours ago, AVCampos said:

Maybe for safety and/or RF radiation regulations?

As I remember the 2.4GHz is allowed for open use, provided low power of transmitters (10mW).

11 minutes ago, Mikdun said:

As I remember the 2.4GHz is allowed for open use

Yeah - as you said, with some power restriction.

Bluetooth is there as well, DECT phones, WiFi, and hey, microwave ovens running at 800W output power. So don't tinker with the interlock of your microwave, it may adversely interfere with a good number of your smart home and not so smart home gadgets.

18 hours ago, Aurorasaurus said:

chinese fake pf receivers use 2.4ghz, so there's no reason lego couldn't do the same

Oh, they did and do: Bluetooth is running at 2.4 GHz - that would be the LEGO NXT PBrick - as well as Bluetooth Low Energy, which is the carrier for TLG's PoweredUp & Co line, sometimes called Control+ in this forum. So yeah, they actually can ...

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Edited January 16Jan 16 by Toastie