42172 McLaren P1 MODs and Improvements

[Ruoyu93]

On 8/29/2024 at 2:15 AM, jb70 said:

Yes, here it is:

https://rebrickable.com/sets/compare/slow/?1-set=42172-1&1-inv=231259&1-user_list=&2-set=&2-user_list=402539

is this the same with 0.4 version or where could i find the newest part list plz? i'm just about to bulid the set

[SNIPE]

Ok  maybe these actuators are too long, and they would have to, by default, be extended a tiny bit, so would be even longer in order to pull the wishbones up...

So I guess worm gear and spur gear + knob wheels. there will be 1:8 scale MOCs and non lego sets which have adjustable ride height that I can use as references.

Another way might be to orient the actuators like the suspension on technic F1 cars,
but keep the shock absorbers in the normal place but this would take up LOADS of space.

Small linear acuators were out of the question since day -1 because they can be forced to retract by pushing the piston bit in with force, something which those big shock absorvers can definetley do.

Another way, though the ways I've seen are not very reliable is to make a bi-rotational, but non back-driveable bevel gear set, but meshing a knob wheel with a 3 axle Y connector is not reliable enough.

Edited October 10, 2024 by SNIPE

[jb70]

On 8/10/2024 at 2:14 AM, jb70 said:

The original set without MODs has been finished as digital model, so far: https://bricksafe.com/files/jb70/42172-pimp-up-my-mclaren/omr/42172 - McLaren P1.mpd 

The digital model of the original set has been updated. All new parts are now available and included.

Edited October 11, 2024 by jb70

[Timorzelorzworz]

Awesome digital Job! Thanks for making and sharing it.

[astyanax]

Great work @jb70, thanks!! 

No pressure whatsoever, just wondering: will there be a next version of the pimped model too? 

The question is relevant to me because my modification of the front is progressing well (IMHO) and I'm considering if I'll be able to use your pimped LDraw model as a basis for codifying my mods, as done with the Ferrari Daytona SP3 before. 

[jb70]

And here is my next release Pimp up my McLaren v0.5:

Digital model: https://bricksafe.com/files/jb70/42172-pimp-up-my-mclaren/history/v0.5/42172 - Pimp up my McLaren.mpd

Building Instructions:

• https://bricksafe.com/files/jb70/42172-pimp-up-my-mclaren/history/v0.5/42172 - Pimp up my McLaren_Book1.pdf
• https://bricksafe.com/files/jb70/42172-pimp-up-my-mclaren/history/v0.5/42172 - Pimp up my McLaren_Book2.pdf

New features:

• I improved the shifting process by replacing the universal joints with strong CV joints between paddle shifter and gearbox. Now it works very smooth without any backlash. 

 

• And I improved the door mechanism by replacing most of the involved friction pins with non friction pins or axles. I added some reinforcements to the main door hinge and the lock which catches the closing door and holds it in place. Now the door opens easy and precise, keeps well in opened position, is more stable (less wabbly) and the closing door will always be safely catched in place. 

 

Next steps: 

• I will add some final renderings to the building instructions, create part list and publish v1.0 on https://rebrickable.com/users/jb70/mocs/ soon. 

Edited October 12, 2024 by jb70

[astyanax]

Amazing! Thanks @jb70

That answers my question 

[Timorzelorzworz]

22 hours ago, jb70 said:

All new parts are now available and included

At this point I want to give a huge thank to all people (Philo?) at LDRAW community for the quick and insane work on the unofficial parts. Every year again its just impressive how fast they are made, especially the more complex ones like rims or curved panels. People (including me) rely heavily on this parts for model design and its not a matter of course to have them so quick. Thank you! 

[astyanax]

17 hours ago, Timorzelorzworz said:

At this point I want to give a huge thank to all people (Philo?) at LDRAW community for the quick and insane work on the unofficial parts.

Hear, hear! 

[JunkstyleGio]

It's only an easter egg, if you make it an easter egg.

[AFOLegofan66]

I am really looking forward to work on this. Thanks for everyone to make this happen especially Jb70 for all your hours you put in on this. These are the kind of projects that keep me involved with LEGO!

[jb70]

Has been released today on https://rebrickable.com/mocs/MOC-198397/jb70/42172-pimp-up-my-mclaren

[astyanax]

Today is a beautiful day! Thanks @jb70. I'll be using these files as the basis for my additional cosmetic modifications, like in previous years. 

Caveat: my version will be Red, aimed at those like me, who can't be bothered buying the actual set in Bright Light Orange...

[thekoRngear]

3 hours ago, astyanax said:

Today is a beautiful day! Thanks @jb70. I'll be using these files as the basis for my additional cosmetic modifications, like in previous years. 

Yippee!

He heard us!

Thnx JB and Astayanax 🫡🔥🫡

[DataNinja]

On 10/5/2024 at 12:05 PM, Timorzelorzworz said:

The W1 (saw some leaks) looks very similar to the P1 but with 4WD. Its a missed opportunity for TLG to make the W1 instead with set release for this october

 

On 10/5/2024 at 2:15 PM, therealjustin said:

Agreed. If the leaks are real, then LEGO absolutely made the right decision. The P1 is miles better.

Consider sometimes Lego has to work with the car company as part of licensing a vehicle and doesn't get 100% of the decision...

[SNIPE]

On 10/15/2024 at 5:18 AM, astyanax said:

Today is a beautiful day! Thanks @jb70. I'll be using these files as the basis for my additional cosmetic modifications, like in previous years. 

Caveat: my version will be Red, aimed at those like me, who can't be bothered buying the actual set in Bright Light Orange...

How will you get the new panels, they dont come in red only flame yellowish orange

The F.Y.O 11x15 frame can just be black I suppose.

Also a couple of system parts dont yet come in red like the 6x1 slope, and parts 5404, 5654, and 4569 also dont come in red yet though  61409 does and you'll have to stack them to as to hide the half plate lip on the front at the bottom (use brackets)

 I have a few well braced ride height adjustment implementations from some third party technic sets, its just a matter of adapting them to fit into this car

I also want to add working disc brakes as the ferrari/P1 rims allow for this unlike the GT3-RS / Chiron / Sian rimw

Yes i'm sure people will say "oh you wont be able to fit such features in" but the thing is most people don't actually build on the limits of whats technically possible with LEGO because it requires creative techniques, unusual parts usage, and skill/knowledge as well as generally being harder to do.

Here are the parts that dont come in red:

4569
39790
4427
5426
4527
4443
4446
89679pr0001
2438
2442

Edited November 2, 2024 by SNIPE

[astyanax]

20 hours ago, SNIPE said:

How will you get the new panels, they dont come in red only flame yellowish orange

I've found workarounds for each of them. 

20 hours ago, SNIPE said:

The F.Y.O 11x15 frame can just be black I suppose.

Even simpler, I used beams connected with 

20 hours ago, SNIPE said:

Also a couple of system parts dont yet come in red like the 6x1 slope, and parts 5404, 5654, and 4569 also dont come in red yet though  61409 does and you'll have to stack them to as to hide the half plate lip on the front at the bottom (use brackets)

I'm expecting the 6x1 slope will appear in red soon enough. Until then I just use the 4x1 curved slope (11153). The convex curve is inaccurate, but it doesn't look bad. 

20 hours ago, SNIPE said:

 I have a few well braced ride height adjustment implementations from some third party technic sets, its just a matter of adapting them to fit into this car

Interesting, do you have any in virtual format? 

20 hours ago, SNIPE said:

Yes i'm sure people will say "oh you wont be able to fit such features in" but the thing is most people don't actually build on the limits of whats technically possible with LEGO because it requires creative techniques, unusual parts usage, and skill/knowledge as well as generally being harder to do.

Hear hear! 

[SNIPE]

here's one, the springs would conncect to the 9L axles that are near them, I just didnt want to fath on with finley rotating stuff in LDCAD because it is a major pain

link
I also have PDF's of other designs which I can PM if you wish

I will have another in physical and digital form by the end of november

Edited November 3, 2024 by SNIPE

[Sokolov Edward]

On 11/2/2024 at 7:19 PM, SNIPE said:

Here are the parts that dont come in red:

The Chinese released the Ferrari SP3 in 5 more colors, perhaps the McLaren P1 will suffer the same fate - I hope they will definitely release a red one, or maybe it will even be red like the G-Class.

Edited November 4, 2024 by Sokolov Edward

[msiminski]

Anyone going to re-do the area around the headlights to actually make it look like a P1?

[astyanax]

14 minutes ago, msiminski said:

Anyone going to re-do the area around the headlights to actually make it look like a P1?

Yeah, I'm working on an alternative (not saying improvement ). Aiming to publish this side of Christmas. 

[msiminski]

I saw the built model in person for the first time at a Lego shop. Underwhelming I have to say. Nowhere near as good as CaDa's Mercedes nor Viva Hypercar. I still want it, but it would need to be at a very heavy discount.

Lots of room for mods everywhere.

[astyanax]

On 11/13/2024 at 4:19 PM, astyanax said:

Yeah, I'm working on an alternative (not saying improvement ). Aiming to publish this side of Christmas. 

I'm still building, just finished the gearbox module. But here's a sneak peek of what my Red version will look like. With a wink to my friend Bruno for the headlights and exhaust...

Inventory-wise, it's more of a mod of the Ferrari Daytona SP3... I couldn't be bothered to buy the official set -- I just don't care for that light orange. I do care for glow-in-the-dark headlights!

Draft building instructions are ready. But not yet verified, as I'm still building. Currently debating myself whether or not to release said draft instructions already for feedback?

[thekoRngear]

Great. It (necessarilly) looks far moar pleasing and cooler than what are coming as H1 2025 official sets (even if not all of them announced)!

Edited December 2, 2024 by thekoRngear

[langko]

1 hour ago, astyanax said:

But here's a sneak peek of what my Red version will look like.

Hmm I think I’ll have to wait till I see it out of real bricks to make a final judgement. But so far I would say that some is looking better and some is looking worse. Model really suffers from not having all those LBO panels available in red. Commendable effort to find work arounds but I’m not sure that red was the right choice here. Some of those missing pieces will come in the Ducati, but still won’t help with the rear mudguard panel areas.