TC27 Aussie Overlander/Tradie vehicle

[Thirdwigg]

On 8/16/2024 at 5:03 PM, 2GodBDGlory said:

Nice progress, and I look forward to seeing more!

But (gasp!), why does your Australian truck have a Michigan license plate? ;)

Because anyone from Michigan wants an Australian car/truck. Make mine a VE Commodore.

The build it looking great @CrazyKreations

[CrazyKreations]

Here I am proud to present my next workbench post, creating the concept of the camper trailer and the gearbox that will be implemented into it. 

The photo below is the gearbox concept that I have developed separately from the trailer. The Differentials are for the outrigger extension that will allow the trailer to be stable on uneven terrain.

The framework chassis for the trailer has been completed and is awaiting the gearbox implementation. I will have to rebuild the gearbox so that it fits comfortably onto the trailer. The framework chassis is here below.

Hopefully, This camper trailer will have synchronised outriggers controlled via a gearbox and a switch on the trailer.

I am in a fight against time to finish this build so expect more workbench posts over the next few days:)

[NV Lego technic]

I don't think that it would work, because if one has just a little more friction than the other, only one will extend. It's an interesting concept, though. 

[2GodBDGlory]

2 hours ago, CrazyKreations said:

Here I am proud to present my next workbench post, creating the concept of the camper trailer and the gearbox that will be implemented into it. 

The photo below is the gearbox concept that I have developed separately from the trailer. The Differentials are for the outrigger extension that will allow the trailer to be stable on uneven terrain.

 

The framework chassis for the trailer has been completed and is awaiting the gearbox implementation. I will have to rebuild the gearbox so that it fits comfortably onto the trailer. The framework chassis is here below.

 

Hopefully, This camper trailer will have synchronised outriggers controlled via a gearbox and a switch on the trailer.

I am in a fight against time to finish this build so expect more workbench posts over the next few days:)

Neat idea! The trailer will definitely be a cool addition

You know, I'm not sure how easy this would be to do, but once the contest is done, you could always build a new cab modeling a real-world truck, and use all your accessories and chassis along with that!
 

54 minutes ago, NV Lego technic said:

I don't think that it would work, because if one has just a little more friction than the other, only one will extend. It's an interesting concept, though. 

That's only true until one of the legs hits the ground, though--after that, it'll naturally be easier for it to deploy the other leg. It might look a little funny if only one leg moves at a time, but I think otherwise it'll work fine

Edited August 27, 2024 by 2GodBDGlory

[dantheman12]

On 8/14/2024 at 10:29 PM, 2GodBDGlory said:

I've done a few different LC70s in 1:8, and while I'm sure I could improve them if I rebuilt them today, I liked them! (No real Aussie-style accessories, though)

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 ooo the troop carrier is my favourite, and I love your auto gearbox, never seen that before, the 'outside the box' ideas that are never seen before are really cool.

 

 

@CrazyKreations great work I like the canopy its very recognisable.

[CrazyKreations]

20 hours ago, NV Lego technic said:

I don't think that it would work, because if one has just a little more friction than the other, only one will extend. It's an interesting concept, though. 

I understand the problems with this concept, but I have found a solution. The mechanism is made so that all of the outriggers will fold and turn to their position (even if one outrigger goes first). I will show in my next post.

19 hours ago, 2GodBDGlory said:

Neat idea! The trailer will definitely be a cool addition

You know, I'm not sure how easy this would be to do, but once the contest is done, you could always build a new cab modeling a real-world truck, and use all your accessories and chassis along with that!
 

That's only true until one of the legs hits the ground, though--after that, it'll naturally be easier for it to deploy the other leg. It might look a little funny if only one leg moves at a time, but I think otherwise it'll work fine

That is a great idea! A different cab fully based on a specific truck will look good.

[CrazyKreations]

Hello, Crazykreations here with my next workbench update on the trailer. The 2-output gearbox has been rebuilt and added to the trailer chassis for the camper trailer.

The mechanism for the outriggers works as I expected, allowing the trailer to be stable even when there is uneven terrain.

Hopefully, my next workbench post will include some progress on the exterior of the camper trailer. I am planning to have a lever mechanism for the lifting roof with the linear actuator.

[NV Lego technic]

Impressive! But, I think that you might not be able to make the trailer part of the entry, as it uses 43mm wheels.

[CrazyKreations]

6 hours ago, NV Lego technic said:

Impressive! But, I think that you might not be able to make the trailer part of the entry, as it uses 43mm wheels.

 Thanks, I will use the wheels that are valid for the entry, (These wheels are just for the early stages of the development). 

[NV Lego technic]

By the way is the steering just downgeared 3:5 or is there any other mechanism to make it more controllable? From my experience it would be impossible to center such a mechanism with just gearing.

[CrazyKreations]

2 hours ago, NV Lego technic said:

By the way is the steering just downgeared 3:5 or is there any other mechanism to make it more controllable? From my experience it would be impossible to center such a mechanism with just gearing.

I have made a coded speed control profile for the steering motor so it can be more controllable.

[NV Lego technic]

Okay, I didn't know that a 4 channel MK controller could be programmed.

[gyenesvi]

9 hours ago, CrazyKreations said:

I have made a coded speed control profile for the steering motor so it can be more controllable.

1 hour ago, NV Lego technic said:

Okay, I didn't know that a 4 channel MK controller could be programmed.

You mean the physical remote? How is it possible to program that?

[NV Lego technic]

I think there is a more advanced app to control it or something.

[gyenesvi]

9 minutes ago, NV Lego technic said:

I think there is a more advanced app to control it or something.

So does that programmability only apply to the app control and not with the physical controller? Maybe just that physical controller on the picture made that association in me..

[2GodBDGlory]

2 hours ago, NV Lego technic said:

I think there is a more advanced app to control it or something.

There definitely is an app you can use with the MouldKing units, and there is some programmability, but from what I see, it's really rudimentary with just timers, basically, and no remote control. This has me wondering if there's a newer version than what I have, though. I'll have to look into it!

[MangaNOID]

Hey @CrazyKreations This is trailer camper is looking quite nice with all its complexity etc, but so you don't get disqualified on entry I would not use the Moldking stuff as no clone brands are permitted.

[CrazyKreations]

1 hour ago, MangaNOID said:

Hey @CrazyKreations This is trailer camper is looking quite nice with all its complexity etc, but so you don't get disqualified on entry I would not use the Moldking stuff as no clone brands are permitted.

Ohhh okay, so we can’t use buwizz or Sbrick either?

[MangaNOID]

Buwizz sbrick seem ok if I

read the rules 👍 but, do due diligence 😅

Edited August 30, 2024 by MangaNOID

[CrazyKreations]

55 minutes ago, MangaNOID said:

Buwizz sbrick seem ok if I

read the rules 👍 but, do due diligence 😅

Maybe I’ll ask @Jim if Mouldking batter boxes are aloud

[Jim]

It's a bit of grey area, but Buwizz and SBrick are allowed because they don't make LEGO sets. Mouldking is actually a clone brand and if we accept a battery box, next thing is motors etc. So stick to Buwizz and SBrick.

[CrazyKreations]

1 minute ago, Jim said:

It's a bit of grey area, but Buwizz and SBrick are allowed because they don't make LEGO sets. Mouldking is actually a clone brand and if we accept a battery box, next thing is motors etc. So stick to Buwizz and SBrick.

Ooo alright, so that means that my entry would be disqualified. 
 

I’ll try and find another power source for the truck then…

[CrazyKreations]

On 8/30/2024 at 4:32 AM, 2GodBDGlory said:

There definitely is an app you can use with the MouldKing units, and there is some programmability, but from what I see, it's really rudimentary with just timers, basically, and no remote control. This has me wondering if there's a newer version than what I have, though. I'll have to look into it!

This will probably be my last or second workbench post as I have just finished the camper trailer. Before anyone says anything about the camper trailer not being out of a tent I have an explanation. I decided to build a hybrid camper trailer that combines the best of both worlds, a lightweight camper design that isn't the full size of a caravan. You also get the extra space and rigidity of a caravan without it being so big. 

This is my camper trailer. I still have a few things to polish here and there but it is mostly finished. I just need to make some changes to the Fender designs and clean up some random colours. I should have a video of all the functions of this full entry soon.

The camper has the following features:

- Pop-top for the roof

- trailing arm suspension

- Multiple storage and bench compartments

- 2 output gearboxes for the outrigger deployment and pop-top roof lifting

- Synchronised outriggers, courtesy of my differential design for the lowering and lifting mechanism

- Rear door with lock

- spare wheel rear bumper with integrated steps 

I just wanted to also say that I have changed the M-Motor for the steering from a fake one to an authentic Lego motor (I honestly had to check if I was using any fake motors and I did it not on purpose. I have now changed it). The rules stated that I can't use any imitation Lego motors and parts but Jim has allowed me to, due to a grey area, to proceed I must only use the battery box as an alternative power source and nothing else so I just wanted to talk about that for a bit before I show the photos.

 

 

[NV Lego technic]

The trailer is really cool!

Edited August 31, 2024 by NV Lego technic

[Timewhatistime]

The trailer's outriggers obviously gave some reason for questions and discussions. Here is another question:

I cannot see a middle differential. Both differentials seem to be driven by a worm gear/gear simultaneously.

So, is there a middle differential (in addition to the rear differential and the front differential)?

If not, the "sum" of the front outriggers' travel must be the same as in the rear. In other words: The four outriggers are not completely independent from each other; they won't be able to adapt to every height differences.