[POLL] Rate the 75397 Khetanna

[Yperio_Bricks]

Judging the pictures, how do you rate the 75397 Khetanna out of 10? Do you plan to buy it? Tell us in the comments!

 

[Max_Lego]

The set is plain AWESOME, but I don't plan to buy it because Ep. IV and post-Ep. VI are my top priorities now.

I never was into, ehm... THIS Leia outfit (I refuse to call it 'huttslayer', because it's not intended for 'huttslaying' by any means), but the 2013 version looks more accurate IMHO (though, tbh, TLG is much more cautious these days). The rest of the set is AWESOME. Jabba and Max Rebo look almost identical to their 2012/2013 versions - I wonder what changes were actually made...

[TeddytheSpoon]

1 hour ago, Max_Lego said:

Jabba and Max Rebo look almost identical to their 2012/2013 versions - I wonder what changes were actually made...

The printing on Jabba has been updated, but otherwise the mold is the same. Max I believe is identical.

[CloneCommando99]

@legoturtle would be happy to see this poll.

[Yperio_Bricks]

1 minute ago, CloneCommando99 said:

@legoturtle would be happy to see this poll.

How come?

[CloneCommando99]

55 minutes ago, Yperio_Bricks said:

How come?

He kept on asking for polls on the DC discussion thread. Constantly.

[Yperio_Bricks]

34 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said:

He kept on asking for polls on the DC discussion thread. Constantly.

Haha ok, i see. Polls are fun though.

All things considered I weighted the Khetanna in at a good 7. Three points deduction for

• Price
• Number of minifigs
• Lego basically forces people to buy another set, the Sarlacc Pit, to complete the scene.

[Agent Kallus]

I gave it a 7. It's a cool looking thing, accurate and but the price and incomplete nature of the scene bring it down.

3 hours ago, Max_Lego said:

 

3 hours ago, Max_Lego said:

I never was into, ehm... THIS Leia outfit (I refuse to call it 'huttslayer', because it's not intended for 'huttslaying' by any means), 

Intended or not Huttslaying is exactly what she did whilst wearing it. 

[Max_Lego]

7 minutes ago, Agent Kallus said:

Intended or not Huttslaying is exactly what she did whilst wearing it. 

Credit to the person, not to the outfit. Ironically, BrickLink has the correct name. Besides, Anakin used to be a slave in Prequels, and Disney can't do anything with it

[STARHAWK]

59 minutes ago, Yperio_Bricks said:

Haha ok, i see. Polls are fun though.

All things considered I weighted the Khetanna in at a good 7. Three points deduction for

• Price
• Number of minifigs
• Lego basically forces people to buy another set, the Sarlacc Pit, to complete the scene.

Hows that only -3 points ? That pretty dealbraking. 7 is like, yeeeeah there are some minor issues

[Lordhelmet]

1 hour ago, Yperio_Bricks said:

Haha ok, i see. Polls are fun though.

All things considered I weighted the Khetanna in at a good 7. Three points deduction for

• Price
• Number of minifigs
• Lego basically forces people to buy another set, the Sarlacc Pit, to complete the scene.

I voted 8 and had the first two same issues.  Price, should be 400-450 USD.  Minifigs could have used one or two more to keep it at 500, or the price should have dropped to the 450 range for the existing number of minifigs.  

An additional complaint, I am disappointed it is not the UCS C-3PO, why wouldn't they include that one on a $500 set when it is currently in production for a much cheaper set.  Big miss from Lego in my opinion.

I do want to buy this (would be my first UCS purchase).  But I want to wait it out and see if there is a good discount.  

What they should really do is make the Sciff and Sarlacc set the GWP for it after the lightsaber runs out.  That would be pretty cool and would justify the price for me to buy now.

[Yperio_Bricks]

30 minutes ago, STARHAWK said:

Hows that only -3 points ? That pretty dealbraking. 7 is like, yeeeeah there are some minor issues

The build is good though. The upper deck and interior look great! The designers did a great job shaping the hull, though overall the hull is maybe a bit boring, as they only have tiles and grills to add detail. Jabba's henchmen look good and i don't mind Leia's legs/print very much.

4 minutes ago, Lordhelmet said:

I voted 8 and had the first two same issues.  Price, should be 400-450 USD.  Minifigs could have used one or two more to keep it at 500, or the price should have dropped to the 450 range for the existing number of minifigs.  

An additional complaint, I am disappointed it is not the UCS C-3PO, why wouldn't they include that one on a $500 set when it is currently in production for a much cheaper set.  Big miss from Lego in my opinion.

I do want to buy this (would be my first UCS purchase).  But I want to wait it out and see if there is a good discount.  

What they should really do is make the Sciff and Sarlacc set the GWP for it after the lightsaber runs out.  That would be pretty cool and would justify the price for me to buy now.

Yep, I mostly agree

The lightsaber GWP though, consists of only 145 standard parts. The Sarlacc Pit on the other hand is a fleshed out set with minifigs, worth much more than the lightsaber.

 

[MKJoshA]

Fun poll. I'm still on the fence about buying. If I buy it day one I could sell the Lightsaber and a couple of the figs (I already have a Jabba for example) and break even leaving me with a pile of brown pieces and the guards I really want. Or I could just shell out $80 for figs in a year and call it good.

[RODDY]

As someone whose favorite movie of all time is Return of The Jedi this set is a must have for me and blew all my expectations out of the water. This is an easy 10 for me and replaces the 2006 Sail Barge as my favorite set of all time (even if I still love that one for pure nostalgia). My only complaint from watching the reviews that came out were that I wish the sails were pitched a bit higher from the deck, but everything else is perfection. Fully equipped kitchen, love Jabba’s throne and hookah pipe, Reebo’s concert hall, the big gun on top, it’s got everything. 11 minifigures is more than fine I know people like to compare to this set to other big sets, but at the end of the day this is a UCS set and 11 is way more than usual and you get a good selection of background characters and essential ones. Day One Buy hands down, this to me is what the Venator is to the clone boys. 

[Darth_Bane13]

I think the actual build is great but the price and the lack of sarlacc pit/desert skiff, and some minor inaccuracies on the figures kinda brings the set down for me.

[STARHAWK]

5 hours ago, RODDY said:

11 minifigures is more than fine I know people like to compare to this set to other big sets, but at the end of the day this is a UCS set and 11 is way more than usual and you get a good selection of background characters and essential ones.

Its not about what is a fine number for UCS set - its about what is the good number of minifigs for that particular set/product. An oversized TIE Fighter / X-wing , A-wing with only 1-2 figs that interacted with the vehicle in a 200eur set might feel ok. In the cantina there are 21 to populate the detailed model. Barge is a perfect fit for a MOC bigger environment so there could be more minifigs to go along with it at that pricepoint. Why is there no Tessek when they have the quaren mold ? If they want to overblow the price, there should be more minifigs to justify it and the existing one should not be cheapened.

And really comparing it to the 76269 Avengers tower with 5201 pieces and 30!!! minifigues for the same price (+ a GWP with 4 additional figures), then the barge really looks like a rip-off and i will not tolerate it nor support it by purchasing this set for that price

Edited September 19, 2024 by STARHAWK

[TeddytheSpoon]

I think the barge could've done with 1-2 extra figures, but any more than that and you'd really struggle to put them all inside. It's roomy, but not 20-30 figures roomy.

[Sentinel_Brix]

5... 'cause overall it's a little bit vanilla to me. The model itself seems great but compared to the Mos Eisley Cantina, there is much less highlights around the model though. 

Jabba and his pet are cool but I miss a handful of extras to justify the price. I was hoping for the Gran (three eyes) and first and foremost for a molded Bantha! 

Overall, I'm probably not going to buy this. 

[JabbaTheHatt]

I think the build is fantastic, with a lot of interior details, with both play potential and displayability (like the Mos Eisley Cantina).

The issues I have with the set are :

- not the best C3PO (dual moulded leg) included, this is simply not justifiable

- new dual moulded legs for Leia look strange, like she has shorts or something. Flesh on the side would have been better

- no upgrade on Max Rebo, it is the exact same fig as before

- the eyes of Salacious Crumb look off, I do not get this new "no-pupils" trend, for some figures (and not for others?)

- It would have been great to include a skiff (not necessarily the skiff with Luke, Han Chewie since they have a specific set for this) with a couple more of grunts and Jabba's mercenaries to complete the scene.

- The price should be 400-450 (if including a additional skiff + more troops), 500 is a bit high.

Overall, 8/10.

I will buy it day one at this full price only because I want to secure the lightsabre GWP for "free" and not pay an absurd price for it on the aftermarket.

[Shiva]

Why I won't buy it? Medically retired. + small apartment.

[Samppu]

I agree with most of the previous writers.

The build is fantastic and wholesome, as both the minifigures and you yourself can access all the rooms, which themselves are both detailed and loyal to the source material. I have no real complaints about the build, it is simply fantastic.

Well, one minor thing, which is the excessive number of exposed studs, but this is a bit of a question of taste. For me, a moccer, it is a value in itself to build as realistic and studless builds as possible, but I understand that the official products don't follow this code. In the case of the Sail Barge the studs are somewhat ok anyway, because the barge is supposed be rugged and a nest of the dirty and the wicked, so its appearance doesn't need to be glimmering and shiny. On an Imperial craft, such a number of studs would be much worse however (just for reference, the UCS TIE fighter was a horrible in this sense, only studs and rectangular shapes with zero elegance in even trying to make smooth ball-like shape...).

My real complaints come down to the minifigures, much along the lines with previous writers.

Jabba is great, he was great before and the new one luckily sticks to what has worked well before.
Same with Max, nothing to comment on him really.

Salacious is a stupid example how rules can overcome ration. I understand that Lego has a motivation to somehow unify its design principles on minifigures in general, but in the case of Salacious sticking to the rule of "only one color + white in the eyes allowed" feels like somebody stopped the car to the traffic lights while running away from a hurricane. Luckily they made the exception with Jabba at least.

The guards are ok, yet Star Wars keeps missing the dual molded legs, even when desperately needed and even when the molds already existed in other series... (e.g. olive green + dark brown for Gamorrean would have been easily available with the cmf goatkeeper) Giving a few dual molds does not cost so much that there would be any excuse not to put them into a set, which itself costs this much. More so with threepio. They even have a set with him having a dual molded leg at the same time!

I am lucky to have the old Bib, so not personally bothered by the reuse of the wrong mold. Yet he would have appeared less of a lazy copy if been given at least the cape to make him appear more like he was in Episode VI, so overall a clear lack of love there...

I am happy that the slave Leia appeared at all. Call her whatever you want, put her pants or even a shirt if you wish, but at least we got one. I would not have been surprised if she had been excluded from the set completely. As a bonus, the hair piece is just perfect.

I agree with some that it is actually good that the pit of Sarlacc and the skiff are sold separately. This way you can more easily buy two of them if you wish, or choose to go with some of the previous versions in case you happen to have one.
 
The real downside then comes down to the lack of minifigures, particularly the lack of Jabba's thugs. As many have said, the overall figure count is not much that there could not have been much more for the current price, and I find comparisons to similar sets entirely justified. However, worse than not getting enough figures within the barge is the problem of not getting additional Jabba's thugs at all.

Namely, as the skiff does not include a single Jabba's guard either, there really is no way to populate the barge with currently available options. This argument is not so much based on the price of the set than it is based on the perspective of completing the set and the scene. I mean that it is ok not to include the pit of Sarlacc and the skiff with the barge if you can, at least in principle, buy them separately, even if it meant perhaps a slight increase in the overall cost. Similarly I wouldn't complain about the lack of guards if there was indeed a battlepack around with which you could populate the barge and the skiff(s), but because there isn't, it feels like they just ignored or forgot that somebody should drive this thing too. For comparison, imagine if they made only the barge but not the skiff. At all. I feel similar incompleteness with the lack of guards, and the unavailability to not even buy them separately.

So, overall the build gets from me 9/10 (10/10 from me would require design choices bordering insane for a set, something like flipping a switch at the cannon and the barge would split in two, maybe even cracking some fire bricks in between), but with the lack of Jabba's thugs and the apparent lack of love over the minifigure design choices I reduce the overall points to 7/10.

Edit: missing word

Edited September 23, 2024 by Samppu

[STARHAWK]

9 hours ago, JabbaTheHatt said:

I will buy it day one at this full price only because I want to secure the lightsabre GWP for "free" and not pay an absurd price for it on the aftermarket.

Why not just source the bricks for the saber and build it ? It should cost less that the aftermarket prices.

[ForgedInLego]

1 hour ago, STARHAWK said:

Why not just source the bricks for the saber and build it ? It should cost less that the aftermarket prices.

But will the cost to source the bricks be less than whatever discount this gets down the road? Correct me if I'm wrong, but D2Cs rarely go on sale until right before retirement

[Paul11283652]

The build is excellent but it's completely the wrong colour. It should be dark grey instead of reddish brown.

[lowlead]

8/10
Great looking set and I'll eventually buy a copy or two; but it's not something I'll stay up late for, continuously refreshing a jammed up LEGO Shop page.  I'm reserving that behavior for a new UCS Lambda Shuttle!