Posted September 19, 2024Sep 19 https://www.brickfanatics.com/lego-may-abandon-physical-instructions/ Supposedly there is an official Lego survey on this but I can't find it. https://brickset.com/article/113691/lego-may-be-considering-phasing-out-paper-instructions Quote Update 19th Sept 14:15: It looks as if the survey has been removed, perhaps as a result of the storm of protest it has caused here and on other blogs, or perhaps because it was very poorly designed and worded.
September 19, 2024Sep 19 I hope they don't go only digital. The function/purpose of digital instructions is evident to me and I do use them, but nothing beats building with physical booklets with my nephews, in my opinion. Maybe I am just old-school and nostalgic to my childhood experience in the 90's, but I love to collect the instruction booklets with the sets of my childhood and still prefer printed instructions to digital whenever possible. Along with this, I still value physical informational books over only digital media. In this modern day, I like to keep my real-world experiences rather than replace them all with digital experiences, but I may be in the minority.
September 19, 2024Sep 19 More screentime for kids, yeah! I really don`t like that idea, not in the slightest. Have used digital instructions only two times and only because the two sets from bluebrixx (Mould king) had no physical instructions. When I´m building with bricks, I don`t want to look at a screen.
September 19, 2024Sep 19 Same, already spending more than enough time behind a screen each day. During LEGO moments I prefer to stay away from them. I even went as far as making paper notes with my physical instructions for corrections to mistakes that were updated in the digital version, or even small mods.
September 19, 2024Sep 19 Well ... ... when TLG "needs" to continue printing instructions of encyclopedia size because they don't want anyone left behind, then - yeah, they better go digital. The one piece per step approach is a bit "paper consuming". And as they are targeting the newbies so much (I know, yeah, they have to) then, yes, go digital. I really don't like digital instructions at all, but well, it is what they decided on, when cranking out the black boxes. All the best, Thorsten
September 20, 2024Sep 20 To reduce amount of paper they will better use more parts per step. This will also make brain work harder.
September 20, 2024Sep 20 31 minutes ago, Mikdun said: To reduce amount of paper they will better use more parts per step. This will also make brain work harder. Agreed. There's a line between helping newbies and treating people like idiots. Instructions from vintage sets really made you think and check before going on to the next step. Paradoxically I find I am more likely to miss a piece when the picture of one step looks almost identical to the next, and my grandchildren find the huge multi-volume tomes published with even modest sets off-putting.
September 20, 2024Sep 20 I'm against it. When you buy a LEGO set, everything you need to put it together should be inside the box. Lest we forget, these are primarily toys for children, who aren't all going to be adroit enough with an electronic device to follow instructions that way.
September 20, 2024Sep 20 Per Brickset, LEGO has released a statement on the survey and paper instructions: Quote We would like to reassure fans that we have no plans to stop using physical building instructions in our products. We conducted this survey to understand more about our adult fans’ preferences regarding our products and building experience, something we do regularly across a range of topics. We would like to thank our LEGO Insiders members who took the time to respond to the survey - your feedback is important to us and helps us make our LEGO experiences even better.
September 20, 2024Sep 20 13 minutes ago, Murdoch17 said: Per Brickset, LEGO has released a statement on the survey and paper instructions: I guess they are trying to save face by releasing such a statement. I believe 99% of respondents were negative towards forced digital instruction and now they are doing damage control. At least they respect their customers by withdrawing these horrible plans. Edited September 20, 2024Sep 20 by SpacePolice89
September 20, 2024Sep 20 I guess they wanted to reduce production costs by "economizing the building process" using digital instructions only (without passing the saved costs on to the customer by reducing set price of course ) and faced a hugh backlash from the AFOL community. But i am sure the topic is not dead and they will bring it on again some time in the future.
September 20, 2024Sep 20 To be honest when I looked at the survey it seemed to be only exploring it as an optional thing—one of the questions included an option about whether buyers would consider buying sets without physical instructions for a slight discount or VIP points bonus, which to be honest struck me as something that could be useful if you don't keep your instructions or were only buying a set for the parts in the first place. Of course the cynics are going to assume that their overreaction was correct and that Lego is saving face, despite there being zero indication from the survey that any sort of universal abandonment of instructions was even on the table. Realistically, there was no universe in which Lego would actually be considering removing physical instructions altogether, not when there's no way to actually verify that the bulk of their consumer base would even have access to digital instructions.
September 20, 2024Sep 20 Author Lego would absolutely get rid of paper instructions the instant they thought they could without hurting sales, but that probably won't happen for a long time. They'll still release trial sets without instructions, like some Mario sets and the "Mission" City sets, to keep testing the waters, and will probably never stop trying. But I think we're safe for now. 8 hours ago, Lyichir said: To be honest when I looked at the survey How did you even see it? It was taken down super fast. 8 hours ago, Lyichir said: one of the questions included an option about whether buyers would consider buying sets without physical instructions for a slight discount or VIP points bonus I don't see how that would work. Wouldn't that require two different releases of each kind of set, one with and one without instructions? Logistical and cost nightmare. That leads me to believe the questions were meant to gauge how willing people were to give up paper instructions, and not seriously exploring the option as a real thing. 17 hours ago, Mikdun said: To reduce amount of paper they will better use more parts per step. This will also make brain work harder. 16 hours ago, idlemarvel said: Agreed. There's a line between helping newbies and treating people like idiots. You can't deny there is waste that can be trimmed without making anything harder. For instance, there are plenty of steps that have 3 pieces, thus proving 3-piece steps aren't too difficult, or Lego wouldn't include those steps. So we know we can combine steps with only one piece or two pieces. There might be exceptions for tricky steps but the vast majority of single-piece steps can be combined. We also know that you can have two steps on a single page. So why do so many pages have only a single step? It's just a waste of paper. If you combine single-piece steps and single-step pages, that cuts many instruction book page counts by half. 8 hours ago, Lyichir said: Of course the cynics are going to assume that their overreaction was correct and that Lego is saving face Cynics or realists? 🙂 "Just kidding...unless?" Corporations literally do this all the time, it's standard procedure. Send up a trial balloon, then when you get the immediate backlash, pretend you never meant it. If it was anything less, they wouldn't have removed the survey so quickly. Edited September 20, 2024Sep 20 by danth
September 21, 2024Sep 21 14 hours ago, Lyichir said: To be honest when I looked at the survey it seemed to be only exploring it as an optional thing—one of the questions included an option about whether buyers would consider buying sets without physical instructions for a slight discount or VIP points bonus, which to be honest struck me as something that could be useful if you don't keep your instructions or were only buying a set for the parts in the first place. Of course the cynics are going to assume that their overreaction was correct and that Lego is saving face, despite there being zero indication from the survey that any sort of universal abandonment of instructions was even on the table. Realistically, there was no universe in which Lego would actually be considering removing physical instructions altogether, not when there's no way to actually verify that the bulk of their consumer base would even have access to digital instructions. I didn't get that view at all. It would be unworkable too, having to have two versions of sets, with and without instructions. It would probably also lead to complaints that the set they bought is missing instructions when they didn't realise. The alternative would be to have certain ranges or sets not have physical instructions at all but then consumers wouldn't know there is a discount for LEGO not producing instructions. And that does not really give a choice for consumers. Edited September 21, 2024Sep 21 by MAB
September 21, 2024Sep 21 15 hours ago, danth said: I don't see how that would work. Wouldn't that require two different releases of each kind of set, one with and one without instructions? Logistical and cost nightmare. That leads me to believe the questions were meant to gauge how willing people were to give up paper instructions, and not seriously exploring the option as a real thing. I don't think they'd ship two versions of a set. They'd all be without instructions and if you want it, they'd hand it over. The boxes could even have prepared compartments for that accessible without actually opening the main package. The rest we can agree on. There would be zero cost savings since they'd still ship stacks of instructions and doing so separately increases the risk of something going wrong. The alternative to that would be on-demand printing on location, but those machines also cost money and need to be maintained, not saving any cost at all. Overall the idea of getting rid of printed instructions is just weird and doesn't make too much sense no matter how you spin it. Mylenium
September 23, 2024Sep 23 To be honest, I’m netural. I love his Al instruction inside the box. But….i’m visually impaired and i heavily depend on digital instructions. It’s. Easy to zoom in nd out and see what pieces I need.
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