What's happening with Technic?

[Auroralampinen]

But i have hopes that volvo L120 electric loader will bring back from the airbus the motor and battery box and this year racing boat had the motor ready pump so i think lego has some big plans in summer sets because i dont think lego releases that unique and rare piece for one weird set wich maybe dont sell that well to justify bringing back that rare and costly piece so i have hopes:) 

6 minutes ago, Auroralampinen said:

But i have hopes that volvo L120 electric loader will bring back from the airbus the motor and battery box and this year racing boat had the motor ready pump so i think lego has some big plans in summer sets because i dont think lego releases that unique and rare piece for one weird set wich maybe dont sell that well to justify bringing back that rare and costly piece so i have hopes:) 

I think personally that with the motor ready pump lego maybe releases some old truck my hope is new version of the 2009 crane truck with motorized pump and suspension because the airbus retired so i have strong feeling the airbus motor and battery box follow up set is pneumatics set with motorized pump pneumatics:) 

Edited December 13, 2024 by Auroralampinen

[pow]

6 hours ago, Lipko said:

Lego is a still toy for kids. And you are just tired of pretending it's not.

Can't disagree more!

1. Lego (the company) has many product lines (City is for kids, there are bricks for architects, serious play is for adult education, there are even flowers for people who love plastic flowers, ...and many more themes of course).

2. And Lego (the interlocking system) is just a tool to build things. It is also used in science: https://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?/forums/topic/199259-fyi-technic-for-science/

But back to the topic: In my opinion TLG is selling parts packs, with an instruction for a single design. And we as a community build whatever we want from it. And as TLG isn't producing B-Model instructions anymore, they completely rely on MOCers. Which i think is acceptable. Not good, but acceptable.

There's no need to be worried about TLG producing bad sets, AS LONG(!) as Lego releases well thought parts packs in three to four (five?) price categories. Do they do that, at the moment? No idea! What I think is missing at the moment are payable sets following the legacy of the 42139 All-Terrain Vehicle, that combines many different parts into one single set with a customer friendly price tag. I mean, it comes with shock absorbers, chain pieces, turn tables, different gears, two differentials - in one set! And don't get me wrong, I'm not restricted to special parts. I did more than 30 builds for the 42147 Dump Truck. Brilliant tiny set and huge fun. And 6 builds for 42164 wacky Offroad Racer with it's many obtuse-angled liftarms(which is super annoying tbh). But i wished these sets had, at least, more gears!

Edited December 13, 2024 by pow

[Auroralampinen]

1 minute ago, pow said:

 

 I did more than 30 builds for the 42147 Dump Truck. Brilliant tiny set and huge fun. 

Well i personally loved the snow groomer better pieces tracks more gears and rare pieces and the snow groomer was so fun set yes the dump truck b model is better i agree with that but still my best 10€ set is the snow groomer:) 

[Mikdun]

On 12/3/2024 at 9:08 PM, Lipko said:

Or it's just a reflection of us. We became old. If you really look at those old models, you'll find how much Technic has evolved since.

I think this is the reason.

When I go 8055 back then I could play and rebuild it for weeks without getting bored. Now I'm happy to have build 8043 mod (the ultimate one ) and it's great, but not enough time to play, and few other excuses....

Sure TLG could improve the sets, we can see how many proposals there are inside "X set improvements and modifications" topics, but maybe it's intentional? 

On 12/3/2024 at 11:46 PM, allanp said:

Mechanics in a Technic set should be treated like minifigures in a star wars set. They should look cool and good enough to be eye candy in and of themselves, and shown proudly somewhere on the box.

Couldn't agree more. It doesn't have to be 100% authentic, but it should work.

[allanp]

Just now, Mikdun said:

I think this is the reason.

When I go 8055 back then I could play and rebuild it for weeks without getting bored. Now I'm happy to have build 8043 mod (the ultimate one ) and it's great, but not enough time to play, and few other excuses....

Sure TLG could improve the sets, we can see how many proposals there are inside "X set improvements and modifications" topics, but maybe it's intentional? 

Couldn't agree more. It doesn't have to be 100% authentic, but it should work.

Well, to be 100% authentic they would need most of the pieces to be made of metal, and the gears to be precision ground, and encased in cast aluminium alloy casings which are then filled with oil and yeah, that's not gonna happen! But they surely can be more authentic than they are. The parts pallet is really getting good in some areas. For the gearboxes, they are only a few more gearsizes and a rethink of their utilisation in sets and colour scheme away from perfection in the eyes of this hardcore fan right here! It's really not that far. I'll have to agree to disagree with some of the incorrect comments made in this topic and others like it. They do listen to us in this forum. I have no insider knowledge of what's coming, but was given some inside knowledge years ago of how my comments on this forum directly influenced the development of the Arocs. You can thank Markus' brilliance and willingness to listen to my persistent whining about wanting longer pneumatics for that! I don't see myself as being part of TLGs target audience, but my whole existence isn't defined as merely a member of a relatively small group of Technic enthusiasts either. I am not a group, big or small. I am one individual, and that's all it takes to have an idea that someone in TLG reads and thinks hey, I'd like that too!

So all I can say is keep on making these topics and commenting on them, and make your criticisms constructive. Don't just say "I want less cars". Instead say what you do want, and let them decide if and how they might include it amongst the lineup of cars! If what you want is a telehandler for example say "I want a telehandler", but don't stop there. A telehandler could range from being a ground breaking game changer (First RC fully pneumatic or even actual hydraulics!), pretty decent (interesting, complex and intricate geared mechanisms with ungeared motors and a return of belt drives and/or flex system) all the way down to awful (all the mechanics are pre built in the factory in the form on linear actuators and gear reduction inside the motor). Pitch your telehandler idea and explain why it's worth the monetary investment TLG would have to make to bring it into reality. 

If you really don't like what is happening with Technic then these are the comments that do have a small but very real chance of steering the ship towards better things.

 

[gyenesvi]

8 hours ago, Lipko said:

I'm asking again. Are you sure it's only Technic changing? And not you too? It's normal that you loose interest in something.

If I wasn't MOCing, probably I wouldn't have bought even the first Technic model, the container truck. It was shockingly crap, a total disappointment after my 10 year dark age. But didn't feel sorry, because the parts were actually important.

4 hours ago, nerdsforprez said:

  Not to mention when you are just building the official sets you really aren't a builder.  Not a creator.  You are just an assembler.  They are different.  Assembling something gets boring over time.  It could be the most complicated machine in the world and it would still get boring over time.  

These! We do all loose interest in everything over time, that's natural. But I think there's a big difference in this respect between people who design / build themselves, and people who just assemble sets. The latter is more sensitive to official sets and gets bored much sooner. For the former on the other hand, it is all about the creative process and the challenge of designing their own ideas. And as long as they haven't tried out everything possible (and interesting) with the existing bricks, there is always something new that's exciting (and adults usually have less free time than ideas to try out). And new parts feed this process, because more and more builds / realistic mechanisms become possible, and even rebuilding something that has previously been built is completely different with new parts. That's what I really like about Lego, as long as the possibilities evolve, there's always something new to build.

[Jockos]

44 minutes ago, Auroralampinen said:

But i have hopes that volvo L120 electric loader will bring back from the airbus the motor and battery box and this year racing boat had the motor ready pump so i think lego has some big plans in summer sets because i dont think lego releases that unique and rare piece for one weird set wich maybe dont sell that well to justify bringing back that rare and costly piece so i have hopes:) 

I think personally that with the motor ready pump lego maybe releases some old truck my hope is new version of the 2009 crane truck with motorized pump and suspension because the airbus retired so i have strong feeling the airbus motor and battery box follow up set is pneumatics set with motorized pump pneumatics:) 

For its price I wouldn't expect wonders (i.e. PUp), maybe pneumatics.

I really miss the times when we had HoG functions (e.g. by turning a knob) instead of directly operating them.