DC Superheroes 2025 - Rumors & Discussion

[Robert8]

Damn I liked the trailer

 

But that dog is so going to get killed

I can feel it

[Renny The Spaceman]

1 hour ago, Robert8 said:

Damn I liked the trailer

 

But that dog is so going to get killed

I can feel it

Nah, love or hate Gunn he's obsessed with cutesy animal sidekicks, even Weasel can't stay dead! TSS had three of these and Gunn was unwilling to kill any of them even after his original idea of Ratcatcher dying fell through even though a King Shark death would mean a lot more and work better in that film. There's no way in hell the dog dies, it's more likely Superman does

[RedHoodPug]

5 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

There’s also a lot of Snyder inspiration by the looks of it.

Have you considered that it might be Superman inspiration? 

DC starts laying down what appears to be a royal flush while Lego is holding out for Mrs Bun the Baker's Wife.

[THELEGOBATMAN]

1 hour ago, Robert8 said:

But that dog is so going to get killed

I can feel it

He's not.

Not only because Gunn loves animals and he wouldn't just kill Krypto in his first movie, but also because he plays an integral role in the upcoming Supergirl movie.

[Mandalorianknight]

1 hour ago, Renny The Spaceman said:

Nah, love or hate Gunn he's obsessed with cutesy animal sidekicks, even Weasel can't stay dead! TSS had three of these and Gunn was unwilling to kill any of them even after his original idea of Ratcatcher dying fell through even though a King Shark death would mean a lot more and work better in that film. There's no way in hell the dog dies, it's more likely Superman does

^^^

Gunn has a formula that you can honestly stretch all the way back to scooby-doo if you want to get a bit loose with it. (Guardians/TSS/Peacemaker/Creature Commandos are a lot more similar to eachother though). Superman appears to be breaking the mold at least a little- while we still have the cutesy animal sidekick and I'd put money down on superman having at least somewhat of an adversial relationship with his biological father, the film doesn't appear to be starring a group of morally ambiguous outlaws-  I doubt he'd turn around and kill off Krypto.

1 hour ago, RedHoodPug said:

DC starts laying down what appears to be a royal flush

Honestly for this specifically, I get why lego's waiting to see how it turns out. Superhero movies have been stumbling a lot recently, and it makes sense to me that they'd want to make sure it really IS a royal flush before tying in.

Doesn't mean they couldn't give us some comic-based superman stuff, though. At the very least, through leaguers into bat-vehicle sets.

[NeutralNoodle]

1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said:

the film doesn't appear to be starring a group of morally ambiguous outlaws- 

This might end up being the team with Mr. Terrific, Hawkgirl, Guy Gardner, and Metamorpho lol

[calebcold3]

Watching the Superman trailer just makes me excited (for the movie) and upset about the fact that we aren't getting a SINGLE SET for this movie.

Like, it would've been the easiest $30-$40 set ever. LEGO could just Reuse Superman's head from the mech on a new torso, put the overused Lex head on a random Business suit already in production, and add one more figure and BOOM you got a set (even if the set had a meh build, I would've still bought it).

Well.. maybe if Superman does well, we'll get Superman 2 and get sets for that movie. 

[Battlinpanther]

That trailer looks fantastic. Sucks there won’t be a kit for it.

[Max_Lego]

Guys, I owe you all an apology. Watching the Superman trailer and reading the feedback made me realise the mind-blowing power of aesthetics! 

Now I understand why Reeves' The Batman was so successful! And how wrong it was to discuss Star Wars in the now-Aslume thread. I was so utterly wrong!

... Because who cares about ideas if the picture looks awesome? 

I absolutely don't intend to start any arguments, I just want to admit how wrong I was. The Batman had a comic-accurate Gotham (no), comic-accurate Catwoman (no!) - and became so successful! This new Superman is absolutely comic-accurate (hell no!) - I am pretty sure that not only it is going to be successful, but it also will unironically save DC! It's all that matters. Nobody cares about the portrayal of characters, the idea of the movie - a beautiful picture and some nostalgia will do the job. Making money is the 1st priority after all.

Again, I mean no offence. I just agree to disagree. I also agree that no Lego sets based on this movie is wrong. TLG wasted a great potential!

Again, mods are welcome to ban me if they feel it's the right thing to do 

[Renny The Spaceman]

1 hour ago, Max_Lego said:

Guys, I owe you all an apology. Watching the Superman trailer and reading the feedback made me realise the mind-blowing power of aesthetics! 

Now I understand why Reeves' The Batman was so successful! And how wrong it was to discuss Star Wars in the now-Aslume thread. I was so utterly wrong!

... Because who cares about ideas if the picture looks awesome? 

I absolutely don't intend to start any arguments, I just want to admit how wrong I was. The Batman had a comic-accurate Gotham (no), comic-accurate Catwoman (no!) - and became so successful! This new Superman is absolutely comic-accurate (hell no!) - I am pretty sure that not only it is going to be successful, but it also will unironically save DC! It's all that matters. Nobody cares about the portrayal of characters, the idea of the movie - a beautiful picture and some nostalgia will do the job. Making money is the 1st priority after all. 

The MCU has been going on for the better part of 20 years and you're just realising this now?

[Max_Lego]

6 minutes ago, Renny The Spaceman said:

The MCU has been going on for the better part of 20 years and you're just realising this now?

I think that the MCU is still more than just visuals

Also, the MCU doesn't really have a reputation for being 'comic-accurate', to the point that few people remember Marvel comics at all

Edited December 20, 2024 by Max_Lego

[psqidexslizer]

4 hours ago, Max_Lego said:

Guys, I owe you all an apology. Watching the Superman trailer and reading the feedback made me realise the mind-blowing power of aesthetics! 

Now I understand why Reeves' The Batman was so successful! And how wrong it was to discuss Star Wars in the now-Aslume thread. I was so utterly wrong!

... Because who cares about ideas if the picture looks awesome? 

I absolutely don't intend to start any arguments, I just want to admit how wrong I was. The Batman had a comic-accurate Gotham (no), comic-accurate Catwoman (no!) - and became so successful! This new Superman is absolutely comic-accurate (hell no!) - I am pretty sure that not only it is going to be successful, but it also will unironically save DC! It's all that matters. Nobody cares about the portrayal of characters, the idea of the movie - a beautiful picture and some nostalgia will do the job. Making money is the 1st priority after all.

Again, I mean no offence. I just agree to disagree. I also agree that no Lego sets based on this movie is wrong. TLG wasted a great potential!

Again, mods are welcome to ban me if they feel it's the right thing to do 

I really don’t understand your complainant about Superman. It seems accurate enough to the source material, at least, from what I can tell. It’s a 2 minute teaser with like three lines of dialogue, which really isn’t enough to judge whether or not it’s an accurate depiction of Superman.

Always glad to see hatred for The Batman. That film deserves every bit of slander it can get.

[Max_Lego]

27 minutes ago, psqidexslizer said:

I really don’t understand your complainant about Superman. It seems accurate enough to the source material, at least, from what I can tell. It’s a 2 minute teaser with like three lines of dialogue, which really isn’t enough to judge whether or not it’s an accurate depiction of Superman.

Always glad to see hatred for The Batman. That film deserves every bit of slander it can get.

My complaint is that I don't know what to think about this trailer. Most people admitted having nostalgic feelings while watching the trailer. I don't have the same nostalgia as the people who witnessed the Silver age of Comic books. The trailer doesn't really tell what the movie is going to be about. Sure, it's about Superman beginning his career and... And? What is Lex Luthor up to? Who is this monster Superman is fighting? Why do Hawkgirl and Guy Gardner wear Maxwell Lord uniforms? Is it going to be a deconstruction of the superhero genre then? 

Superman doesn't look mighty. Superman from S:TAS looked absolutely mighty (but was somehow lame, IMHO). Cavill looked mighty. Corenswet looks... ordinary, like an everyman. Maybe it is the idea, but still looks weird. 

Seriously, I don't think the movie is going to be bad. But I am not sure it's going to be good either...

29 minutes ago, psqidexslizer said:

Always glad to see hatred for The Batman. That film deserves every bit of slander it can get.

I am glad someone understands my disdain for The Batman...

[Renny The Spaceman]

3 hours ago, Max_Lego said:

I think that the MCU is still more than just visuals

Also, the MCU doesn't really have a reputation for being 'comic-accurate', to the point that few people remember Marvel comics at all

Well maybe it's because I tapped out of it years back but I remember for over a decade that's exactly why people acted like it was the greatest thing ever, like now MCU Spider-Man's unpopular online but for so long the narrative was because of superficial elements it was more comic accurate than any earlier adaptation and that made it the best. Maybe now people accept it's not comic accurate but it wasn't like that for ages any changes outside of like Ultron and The Mandarin people would shrug their shoulders and say it's for the better or bend over backwards to argue that Spider-Man's dynamic with Ironman is actually an accurate adaptation of his dynamic with Johnny Storm.

I'm too old to care about comic accuracy, if it's a good movie it's a good movie, I want accuracy I'll read the comics, in all likelihood I won't watch most of these films.

Seems weird to say like this film is all about making money and nostalgia then claim the MCU is any different.

To be a cynic that's all the concept of a cinematic universe is, it's just trying to monopolise an audiences wallet. The average person sees about 3 films a year, the goal is to make them all films from their universe by making incomplete films that require other movies to work and often even with those other movies skim over basic character work. It's the cinematic version of games as a service. 

[Max_Lego]

6 minutes ago, Renny The Spaceman said:

Seems weird to say like this film is all about making money and nostalgia then claim the MCU is any different.

The MCU is not about nostalgia. But, yes, it's about making MONEY! 

[Classic_Spaceman]

29 minutes ago, Max_Lego said:

Why do Hawkgirl and Guy Gardner wear Maxwell Lord uniforms?

I think that Maxwell Lord is financing the JSA (as he did the JL in his earlier comic appearances). 

29 minutes ago, Max_Lego said:

Is it going to be a deconstruction of the superhero genre then? 

No, though it seems that the movie will be focused on how Superman fits into the modern world and the current superhero-saturated media landscape. Based on set photos and the trailer, we see Superman at odds with both the corporate-sponsored JSA (Mr. Terrific, Hawkgirl, Guy Gardner) and the government-sponsored (and Flagg Sr.-lead) Authority (Ultraman(?), the Engineer); I suspect that the JSA will be quippy showoffs (MCU stand-in) while the Authority are cynical, dark-and-gritty, and overly-serious (Snyderverse stand-in). Superman will engage with both groups, then carve out his own space within the superhero landscape - Both for himself in the context of the film universe, and the DCU as a franchise. 

29 minutes ago, Max_Lego said:

Corenswet looks... ordinary, like an everyman. Maybe it is the idea, but still looks weird. 

Considering how he looks as Clark Kent, I think that this is definitely the idea - The movie seems to be leaning more into the Human side of Superman (especially with the inclusion of Krypto!), rather than the aloof godlike portrayal from the Snyderverse. 
 

Edited December 20, 2024 by Classic_Spaceman

[Max_Lego]

@Classic_Spaceman, I think your points are fair enough. Thanks 

But I am still sceptical enough though 

[psqidexslizer]

47 minutes ago, Max_Lego said:

My complaint is that I don't know what to think about this trailer. Most people admitted having nostalgic feelings while watching the trailer. I don't have the same nostalgia as the people who witnessed the Silver age of Comic books. The trailer doesn't really tell what the movie is going to be about. Sure, it's about Superman beginning his career and... And? What is Lex Luthor up to? Who is this monster Superman is fighting? Why do Hawkgirl and Guy Gardner wear Maxwell Lord uniforms? Is it going to be a deconstruction of the superhero genre then? 

Superman doesn't look mighty. Superman from S:TAS looked absolutely mighty (but was somehow lame, IMHO). Cavill looked mighty. Corenswet looks... ordinary, like an everyman. Maybe it is the idea, but still looks weird. 

Seriously, I don't think the movie is going to be bad. But I am not sure it's going to be good either...

Ah, ok. Yeah, that makes sense. In all fairness, this is just the first trailer and the film is still seven months out. At this point, the marketing is just straight up vibes (ie nostalgia bait) versus actual details about the film. As we get more marketing material and the films gets closer to release, most of the questions you’ve got will probably be answered.

Also, on a somewhat related note, I’m really disappointed we’re not getting anything for Creature Commandos. Sure, I understand it’s R-rated, but I would love to get comic based versions of some of these characters (especially Circe).

[THELEGOBATMAN]

1 hour ago, psqidexslizer said:

Always glad to see hatred for The Batman. That film deserves every bit of slander it can get.

No it doesn't. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it deserves any slander.

It's an incredible movie—loved by fans, casual moviegoers, and critics alike.

1 hour ago, Max_Lego said:

The trailer doesn't really tell what the movie is going to be about. Sure, it's about Superman beginning his career and... And? What is Lex Luthor up to? Who is this monster Superman is fighting? Why do Hawkgirl and Guy Gardner wear Maxwell Lord uniforms? Is it going to be a deconstruction of the superhero genre then? 

Is... is it your first time seeing a teaser trailer? You can't be serious, right?

That's what actual trailers are for—telling you what the movie is about. Teaser trailers are just snippets of the movie, usually a cool montage or a longer sequence. They're supposed to show what the aesthetic and the climate is about, without revealing any story details.

Also what your asking for is completely irrelevant at this point. Just wait and see the movie! Why would a trailer for a Superman movie tell you why a tertiary supporting character is wearing a uniform from a non-appearing character?

24 minutes ago, psqidexslizer said:

Also, on a somewhat related note, I’m really disappointed we’re not getting anything for Creature Commandos. Sure, I understand it’s R-rated, but I would love to get comic based versions of some of these characters (especially Circe).

Weasel's backstory in the new episode is quite possibly my favourite thing Gunn has ever made—and that's coming from someone who would put all his works in a "top 10 comicbook projects ever".

1 hour ago, Max_Lego said:

The MCU is not about nostalgia. But, yes, it's about making MONEY! 

Every movie is about making money. How is Oppenheimer different from it? Killers of the Flower Moon? Longlegs? Literally anything?

Every movie's goal is to ultimately make money. That's why studios finance them. 

You might say, "Okay, but it depends what the director's (or writer's, or anyone's from the cast & crew) goal is." But it doesn't—ultimately, they also want it to make money, because that means the studio will finance another movie, and all they want to do is keep making movies.

Of course, you can approach it from various angles—some projects allow the creator's to take the helm, letting them deliver the best version of the product they can. Some, on the other hand, try to nip their creativity in the bud, focusing on cold calculations on how to make the movie.

But the point is, all movies are still, ultimately, made for money. And I don't really see what you're trying to say about Superman.

Edited December 20, 2024 by THELEGOBATMAN

[Classic_Spaceman]

51 minutes ago, psqidexslizer said:

I would love to get comic based versions of some of these characters (especially Circe).

I think that Circe is appearing in Paradise Lost, which we will presumably get sets for if the DCU performs well. 
 

[Max_Lego]

37 minutes ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

That's what actual trailers are for—telling you what the movie is about.

A teaser trailer also should tell at least something about the story. AND IT DOESN'T. The snippets are too short to make any conclusions. And that's terrible 

37 minutes ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

It's an incredible movie—loved by fans, casual moviegoers, and critics alike.

Fow what? Many people say they like it, but the only reason they can name is the atmosphere. Also, not everyone, I tell you, not everyone liked it! And I am pretty sure that the popularity of this movie will make the DC bosses take mainstream Batman in the wrong direction. If they wanted to deconstruct Batman - which they didn't intend to - they should've done it differently. Even Frank Miller's cringey The Dark Knight Returns deconstructed the character much better than Reeves did

Edited December 20, 2024 by Max_Lego

[psqidexslizer]

15 minutes ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

I think that Circe is appearing in Paradise Lost, which we will presumably get sets for if the DCU performs well. 
 

I wouldn’t presume that we’ll get sets for anything until a reliable source says we’re getting sets. Those kinds of assumptions could lead to a lot of disappointment if it doesn’t happen. I wish I could think of some recent example of that happening, but alas.

[RedHoodPug]

27 minutes ago, Max_Lego said:

1 hour ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

That's what actual trailers are for—telling you what the movie is about.

A teaser trailer also should tell at least something about the story. AND IT DOESN'T. The snippets are too short to make any conclusions. And that's terrible 

The clue is in the word teaser. It teases what is to come without giving much away. It showed some things that we knew were coming and some things we didn't, and those things looked pretty in the process. I don't want to know the plot before going to see a new film, I want to experience it all first hand. It's why I'm struggling with Creature Commandos being released the way it has and managing spoiler evasion. It's Superman so the story is going to have a good Vs evil element, action, probably a romantic element and some appearances from other DC characters. It's James Gunn so it's going to have action, humour, horror and heart, and it's going to look beautiful as well as be given a clever and appropriate soundtrack. You don't need to make any conclusions at this stage unless you micromanage your life to the nth degree. You appear to be looking for the synopsis not the teaser trailer. 

[THELEGOBATMAN]

1 hour ago, Max_Lego said:

A teaser trailer also should tell at least something about the story. AND IT DOESN'T. The snippets are too short to make any conclusions. And that's terrible 

No it shouldn't. It's named "teaser"—it teases the movie. 

I mean, seriously. Is it actually your first teaser trailer? Because that's always how they are. It just depends on the viewer about how much they'll make from the context.

1 hour ago, Max_Lego said:

Fow what? Many people say they like it, but the only reason they can name is the atmosphere. Also, not everyone, I tell you, not everyone liked it! And I am pretty sure that the popularity of this movie will make the DC bosses take mainstream Batman in the wrong direction. If they wanted to deconstruct Batman - which they didn't intend to - they should've done it differently. Even Frank Miller's cringey The Dark Knight Returns deconstructed the character much better than Reeves did

Where are you pulling your ridiculous assumptions out of? Atmosphere is one of the reasons, sure, but you have to have been living under a rock if you think that’s the only one.

Obvious not everyone liked it, never said so anyway. Same as not everyone liked The Dark Knight, or any other praised movie. Doesn't change the fact that the majority of people love it, and it's widely regarded as one of the best comicbook movies ever.

[Mandalorianknight]

3 hours ago, psqidexslizer said:

Always glad to see hatred for The Batman. That film deserves every bit of slander it can get.

Seriously.

I don't think it's a bad movie by any means, but people act like it's the greatest thing since sliced bread and it's really not. It's fine. It's a solid interpretation of a leagueless, grounded Batman but it doesn't come close to the Nolan trilogy. I could go more into the plot and character issues I have with it, but TLDR is "yeah it's fine, it's weird to me that everyone says it's the best thing ever made"

2 hours ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

No, though it seems that the movie will be focused on how Superman fits into the modern world and the current superhero-saturated media landscape. Based on set photos and the trailer, we see Superman at odds with both the corporate-sponsored JSA (Mr. Terrific, Hawkgirl, Guy Gardner) and the government-sponsored (and Flagg Sr.-lead) Authority (Ultraman(?), the Engineer); I suspect that the JSA will be quippy showoffs (MCU stand-in) while the Authority are cynical, dark-and-gritty, and overly-serious (Snyderverse stand-in). Superman will engage with both groups, then carve out his own space within the superhero landscape - Both for himself in the context of the film universe, and the DCU as a franchise. 

I would like this idea, but somebody else mentioned that the JSA might just be a way for Gunn to get in his guardians/suicide squad, and now I can't unsee that fear.

1 hour ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

No it doesn't. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it deserves any slander.

"Just because you think it's bad doesn't mean it's good" (Because I like it) - The Jonkler.