[RUMOUR] LEGO Icons Black Pearl coming in 2025

[_R_R_]

I am not sure where these 'rumors' have originated from but if it's 'endurance scale' I will eat my hat, I firmly believe it will be minifigure play scale and come with multiple minifigures. I also believe they will do a Flying Dutchman with a new Davy Jones minifigure and his crew.

This can't come soon enough so we stop worrying about the scale! When should we expect to see some unofficial pictures? 

[kuzyabricks]

37 minutes ago, Elephant Knight said:

The rumor seems to imply it is. I hope it isn't the case. I, and probably everyone else, would prefer minifig play scale.

EKnight

There are no rumors about it. That was a troll on 4chan.

1 minute ago, _R_R_ said:

I am not sure where these 'rumors' have originated from but if it's 'endurance scale' I will eat my hat, I firmly believe it will be minifigure play scale and come with multiple minifigures. I also believe they will do a Flying Dutchman with a new Davy Jones minifigure and his crew.

This can't come soon enough so we stop worrying about the scale! When should we expect to see some unofficial pictures? 

I like your confidence and I agree with you! Probably 6+ months unless a big leak happens like in February 2023(((

[a_clay_brick]

Neither Kramer nor the Brick Tap source said ANYTHING to hint towards there it being Endurance scale or with only one minifigure. It is a made up rumor that came out of nowhere because people misinterpreted something Kramer said, which he then clarified.

[Yperio_Bricks]

Personally I am not interested in those big expensive Icons sets and if we get only one set I would prefer it to be a remake of the blister pack battlepack over a big ship. This is simply perfect:

 

[Murdoch17]

24 minutes ago, Yperio_Bricks said:

Personally I am not interested in those big expensive Icons sets and if we get only one set I would prefer it to be a remake of the blister pack battlepack over a big ship. This is simply perfect:

SNIP

Why not both a crew battle-pack and the ship? That way people with the old set from 2011 have more crew, and people who have the new one also have more crewmembers. Win-win. Throw in a British redcoats (without flesh showing on torsos) battle-pack as well for extra fun, and it also is a win for older Pirates fans who can swap heads and hands for yellow. Win-Win-Win.

After all, LEGO is in business to make money, and this would make them mountains of it. It's just good business () and would make the most sense to do this.

Edited December 29, 2024 by Murdoch17

[Yperio_Bricks]

18 minutes ago, Murdoch17 said:

Why not both a crew battle-pack and the ship? That way people with the old set from 2011 have more crew, and people who have the new one also have more crewmembers. Win-win. Throw in a British redcoats (without flesh showing on torsos) battle-pack as well for extra fun, and it also is a win for older Pirates fans who can swap heads and hands for yellow. Win-Win-Win.

After all, LEGO is in business to make money, and this would make them mountains of it. It's just good business.

Of course I would prefer that! Of course there should be a Redcoat battlepack as well!

But we did not get a single LOTR battlepack to accompany Rivendell and there are no such rumors for next year and I have no hope they do these battlepacks anymore for themes like LOTR or POTC. Just big ICONS sets. Even in Star Wars we get less battlepacks nowadays. Everyone think people would buy battlepacks in masses, no matter the theme, yet Lego is reluctant to release them. My theory is, and that is maybe an unpopular opinion, that Lego does not care if people have the best playing experience, they just want to drain peoples pockets with these big sets for adults, addressing nostalgia and fomo....

I would be very happy if Lego proves me wrong regarding battlepacks, but i have lost all hope

[kuzyabricks]

37 minutes ago, Yperio_Bricks said:

Of course I would prefer that! Of course there should be a Redcoat battlepack as well!

But we did not get a single LOTR battlepack to accompany Rivendell and there are no such rumors for next year and I have no hope they do these battlepacks anymore for themes like LOTR or POTC. Just big ICONS sets. Even in Star Wars we get less battlepacks nowadays. Everyone think people would buy battlepacks in masses, no matter the theme, yet Lego is reluctant to release them. My theory is, and that is maybe an unpopular opinion, that Lego does not care if people have the best playing experience, they just want to drain peoples pockets with these big sets for adults, addressing nostalgia and fomo....

I would be very happy if Lego proves me wrong regarding battlepacks, but i have lost all hope

I just want a Flying Dutchman man. 2026 would 20 year anniversary of dead man’s chest

[a_clay_brick]

On 12/21/2024 at 7:36 AM, thewatchman said:

Article with even more details

This article is total rubbish. It claims it will be Endurance scaled with one minifigure based on a random anonymous poster. The two actual sources have said absolutely nothing to imply either of those things.

[Elephant Knight]

5 hours ago, kuzyabricks said:

There are no rumors about it. That was a troll on 4chan.

I like your confidence and I agree with you! Probably 6+ months unless a big leak happens like in February 2023(((

Ah, I misunderstood what I read then. Excellent.

[_R_R_]

13 hours ago, kuzyabricks said:

There are no rumors about it. That was a troll on 4chan.

I like your confidence and I agree with you! Probably 6+ months unless a big leak happens like in February 2023(((

I am not sure why anyone even believed such a false rumor to begin with but I'm glad @a_clay_brick has confirmed it was false.

Pirates of the Caribbean is a theme many people have wanted to see revived and The Black Pearl, in spite of all it's inaccuracies, is still one of a lot of people's most wanted sets. The main reason being it is the flagship of the franchise, and it also came with Davy Jones and some of his crew. Many are confused they are doing the Pearl again instead of the Flying Dutchman though. TLG is aware of this, so I truly believe the Pearl will come with all the hero minifigures and then they will announce the Dutchman a year or so later, which will come with Jones, some his crew and I'm guessing a Pirate 'King' Elizabeth, Will and Jack of course.

Once the two ships are released we will be able to recreate the maelstrom fight in all it's glory with a beautiful updated Pearl, the Dutchman and the new minifigure designs, or at least that's what I believe! Hopefully they don't stop with just these two ships and keep the theme alive with smaller sets like Tortuga, a Kraken or more ships, HMS Endeavor anyone? 

[Dreamweb]

Personally, I don't care if it's the Black Pearl or not; as long as it's minifig scale, it's always good to have another pirate ship released.

Still, I am currently very sceptical about this rumour, considering the same source also announced a Star Trek set which I have always deemed impossible to happen. Of course, I am also aware that Blue Brixx' Star Trek licence expires in just 2 days, so theoretically, anything is possible.

[kuzyabricks]

6 hours ago, _R_R_ said:

I am not sure why anyone even believed such a false rumor to begin with but I'm glad @a_clay_brick has confirmed it was false.

Pirates of the Caribbean is a theme many people have wanted to see revived and The Black Pearl, in spite of all it's inaccuracies, is still one of a lot of people's most wanted sets. The main reason being it is the flagship of the franchise, and it also came with Davy Jones and some of his crew. Many are confused they are doing the Pearl again instead of the Flying Dutchman though. TLG is aware of this, so I truly believe the Pearl will come with all the hero minifigures and then they will announce the Dutchman a year or so later, which will come with Jones, some his crew and I'm guessing a Pirate 'King' Elizabeth, Will and Jack of course.

Once the two ships are released we will be able to recreate the maelstrom fight in all it's glory with a beautiful updated Pearl, the Dutchman and the new minifigure designs, or at least that's what I believe! Hopefully they don't stop with just these two ships and keep the theme alive with smaller sets like Tortuga, a Kraken or more ships, HMS Endeavor anyone? 

My friend we are both on the same page!! I’m very excited what the future will bring for POTC Lego sets. If they pull these sets off, it will be a dream come true!

[CloneCommando99]

After a Black Pearl and Dutchman I’d say that the Interceptor would be next. It’s the only British ship that would actually have a recognisable character roster. Who could they include in the Endeavour? Jack, Beckett and Will?

The Interceptor has the possibility to include all of Jack’s crew in CotBP, Jack, Will, Elizabeth, Commodore Norrington, Governor Swann and the 2 redcoats (I forget their names)

Edited December 31, 2024 by CloneCommando99

[DonQuixote]

On 12/30/2024 at 12:42 AM, Yperio_Bricks said:

Of course I would prefer that! Of course there should be a Redcoat battlepack as well!

But we did not get a single LOTR battlepack to accompany Rivendell and there are no such rumors for next year and I have no hope they do these battlepacks anymore for themes like LOTR or POTC. Just big ICONS sets. Even in Star Wars we get less battlepacks nowadays. Everyone think people would buy battlepacks in masses, no matter the theme, yet Lego is reluctant to release them. My theory is, and that is maybe an unpopular opinion, that Lego does not care if people have the best playing experience, they just want to drain peoples pockets with these big sets for adults, addressing nostalgia and fomo....

I would be very happy if Lego proves me wrong regarding battlepacks, but i have lost all hope

Lego knows that the value of certain minifigs wil decrease if they make battlepacks too. They know that a lot of people will buy several sets just to sell the parts and minifigs on Bricklink. It's more profitable.

Just look at Jabba's sail barge. They didn't include all the figs in that set from that scene. You will have to buy an overpriced Sarlacc Pitt as well or just buy expensive minifigs only on Bricklink. Therefore more people are motivated to buy the complete sets. And if you want the dual molded C3po ,you need  to buy the buildable C3po as well.

That system works for the Lego company so don't expect they will change that. It will only get worse with licensed themes.

The icon/symbol of Lego is not the brick anymore. It is in fact the minifig because that's patented. And they will capitalize on that. That's the system seller. 

Edited January 1 by DonQuixote

[Yperio_Bricks]

3 hours ago, DonQuixote said:

The icon/symbol of Lego is not the brick anymore. It is in fact the minifig because that's patented.

I thought this $ is the icon of Lego

Actually the minifigure is not patented anymore. Patents expire. The minifigure is protected as a 3D trademark and this will basically never expire... (I don't know the exact translation, in German it is called dreidimensionale Marke or 3D-Marke.)

[DonQuixote]

4 hours ago, Yperio_Bricks said:

I thought this $ is the icon of Lego

Lol 

[RichardGoring]

Missed the earlier discussions on this thread, and glad to have done, so I didn't get disappointed about midi scale! I hope they do it justice and that a Dutchman get released a year or two later.

[Bart]

I'm actually not excited for this at all.
I'd much rather have another historic ship, that is an as accurate as can be model in Lego, like the Titanic and the Endurance (although I would've liked a better rig, but i'm a boat nerd so I can understand that being too diffucult and not expected by everyone)

I'd love to see one of the Flying P-liners. 

Or just go back to true lego fantasy pirate, not based on a movie, and give us a play-set that we can mod/moc to our hearts content to be more inline with our desires.

[Franco Clarke]

If this set does turn out to be real, no matter what form it ends up being, it should inject more useful shipbuilding parts into the market, which is always a good thing. Will certainly be interesting to see what Lego does with a presumably large budget to create an age of sail ship.

[kuzyabricks]

I feel like there isn't enough hype surrounding this rumour haha. First POTC set in 8 years and a remake of a set that costs over $1000+ sealed. I wanted to ask everyone, what would you prefer:

A $200 Barracuda Bay esque Black Pearl with the main cast with minimal details (no dual molding or something) of Jack, Gibbs, Will, Barbossa, Elizabeth, Cotton, Pintel, Ragetti, and let's say Cotton and Marty for good measure while also having play features such as cannons, some sort of trap (really guessing here), and a fairly accurate black pearl look but not spot on. Maybe the lanterns aren't as intricate, or not as many statues on the side of the ship etc

 

OR

 

Go all out on a 350-400 Spot on model of the Pearl with the full cast mentioned above decked out as well as a few members of the Flying Dutchman, british guards etc. The Pearl would be very intricate and have incredible detail such as Rivendell for example, where it is an art piece.

For me personally I wouldn't mind either. I have the gorgeous Black pearl moc created by the talented Marooned Marin with the entire cast of characters from 2011. A playscale one would be cheaper on the wallet and an intricate one would mean I have two gorgeous Black pearls in my house (not a complaint considering the 2011 one is ones of the most underwhelming sets of all time). HOWEVER if we do get a flying dutchman in 2026 (wishful thinking if the Black pearl sells, Rivendell/Barad dur type of deal) I would prefer a intricate and massive flying dutchman. All the cannons, all the crew (I dont care if they have unprinted legs lol), all the detail and presence it has in the films.

If we get more sets later down the line an and we get Brickheadz to test the waters I wouldn't mind that one bit, the LOTR ones are quite cute (as long as they don't replace playscale sets.) I don't see much hope for playscale sets in regards to POTC but it would be nice. One can hope. Let's just wait for more pearl details, star trek already got something)))

Just wishful thinking but this is what a 15 year pirate drought (a few icons sets here and there isn't enough as wonderful as they are and 2015 line was a joke) of pirates sets does to a man)))

Edited January 4 by kuzyabricks

[Arjo]

Both would be crazy good… but for me cheaper might be better as I am ever more tempted to go back to my dark ages. I have caught up with the thread but that rumour surfaced when I was trying to stay away from all things Lego so I’m not sure how legit it is.

[Yperio_Bricks]

8 hours ago, kuzyabricks said:

A $200 Barracuda Bay esque Black Pearl with the main cast with minimal details (no dual molding or something) of Jack, Gibbs, Will, Barbossa, Elizabeth, Cotton, Pintel, Ragetti, and let's say Cotton and Marty for good measure while also having play features such as cannons, some sort of trap (really guessing here), and a fairly accurate black pearl look but not spot on. Maybe the lanterns aren't as intricate, or not as many statues on the side of the ship etc

I definitely would prefer this, but cheaper. 150€ is expensive enough for a playset me thinks.

[_R_R_]

8 hours ago, kuzyabricks said:

I feel like there isn't enough hype surrounding this rumour haha. First POTC set in 8 years and a remake of a set that costs over $1000+ sealed. I wanted to ask everyone, what would you prefer:

A $200 Barracuda Bay esque Black Pearl with the main cast with minimal details (no dual molding or something) of Jack, Gibbs, Will, Barbossa, Elizabeth, Cotton, Pintel, Ragetti, and let's say Cotton and Marty for good measure while also having play features such as cannons, some sort of trap (really guessing here), and a fairly accurate black pearl look but not spot on. Maybe the lanterns aren't as intricate, or not as many statues on the side of the ship etc

 

OR

 

Go all out on a 350-400 Spot on model of the Pearl with the full cast mentioned above decked out as well as a few members of the Flying Dutchman, british guards etc. The Pearl would be very intricate and have incredible detail such as Rivendell for example, where it is an art piece.

For me personally I wouldn't mind either. I have the gorgeous Black pearl moc created by the talented Marooned Marin with the entire cast of characters from 2011. A playscale one would be cheaper on the wallet and an intricate one would mean I have two gorgeous Black pearls in my house (not a complaint considering the 2011 one is ones of the most underwhelming sets of all time). HOWEVER if we do get a flying dutchman in 2026 (wishful thinking if the Black pearl sells, Rivendell/Barad dur type of deal) I would prefer a intricate and massive flying dutchman. All the cannons, all the crew (I dont care if they have unprinted legs lol), all the detail and presence it has in the films.

If we get more sets later down the line an and we get Brickheadz to test the waters I wouldn't mind that one bit, the LOTR ones are quite cute (as long as they don't replace playscale sets.) I don't see much hope for playscale sets in regards to POTC but it would be nice. One can hope. Let's just wait for more pearl details, star trek already got something)))

Just wishful thinking but this is what a 15 year pirate drought (a few icons sets here and there isn't enough as wonderful as they are and 2015 line was a joke) of pirates sets does to a man)))

I think it will be similar to some of the popular Pearl MOCs, so somewhere around 2000-3000 pieces and it will come with all the minifigures we would expect to see on the Pearl. I don't believe they will make it as big as the Titanic.

[kuzyabricks]

46 minutes ago, _R_R_ said:

I think it will be similar to some of the popular Pearl MOCs, so somewhere around 2000-3000 pieces and it will come with all the minifigures we would expect to see on the Pearl. I don't believe they will make it as big as the Titanic.

No, no a titanic scale and price is unreasonable haha. I would expect them to put it at $350 then if they make one the same size as most Mocs. I just hope the figures are well made because the 2011 ones are fantastic but I want to see what 15 years of improvement brings)))

[Jack Sassy]

14 hours ago, kuzyabricks said:

Go all out on a 350-400 Spot on model of the Pearl with the full cast mentioned above decked out as well as a few members of the Flying Dutchman, british guards etc. The Pearl would be very intricate and have incredible detail such as Rivendell for example, where it is an art piece.

Funnily enough, some five years ago I had the same thought, a UCS Black Pearl. It sounds wonderful.  Only trouble is, I have grown tired of high piece count and price LEGO sets. As detailed and lovely as they are, not all things require such treatment. To me it takes away from creating MOC builds. I would rather this Pearl be closer to the 2020 Black Seas Barracuda.

 

Do we know any information about the price for this rumoured set? Besides another standalone POTC set I would love to see more land based Pirates sets or some vessels for the soldiers. Perhaps a pirate pub?