Bye Purple

[Zarkan]

ABS and the stuff they used for Exo Force hair, and the stuff they used on the bendy Exo Force pieces are the only types of plastic they used for purple... Aren't they? Or is ABS not one type of plastic?

:skull:

Well, according to wikipedia, "ABS is derived from acrylonitrile, butadiene, and styrene." I dunno if those are all different kind of plastics, but you may be onto something.

Edited September 2, 2008 by Grevious

[Shoc]

Well, according to wikipedia, "ABS is derived from acrylonitrile, butadiene, and styrene." I dunno if those are all different kind of plastics, but you may be onto something.

Nope, they are all compounds that are used in the making of plastic. I meant, "how can there be different types of ABS"? Maybe there can, but hmm... I'm confused now.

:skull:

[dviddy]

ABS and the stuff they used for Exo Force hair, and the stuff they used on the bendy Exo Force pieces are the only types of plastic they used for purple... Aren't they? Or is ABS not one type of plastic? default_wacko.gif

ABS is one type of plastic, policarbonite is another. Different strengths and designs are made possible by using different plastics for different pieces. While more than half of all parts are made of ABS, the rest are made from over twenty or so different types of plastic. The reason we never saw the old Technic purple in system sets was because it couldn't be used for those different plastics.

Seriously, I haven't seen problems with:

--color anomalies

--plastic integrity

--aging of any sort

The last two are NOT reasons purple is being discontinued, and I blame Shiloh for putting out a vague story on BZP for this error. The problem is colour consistency. You HAVE seen anomalies in your purple, Jinzo. You just didn't put 2 and 2 together. Yes, within the old purple, there are no differences. Within the new purples, things all look the same. Etc and so on. But the anomaly here is the fact that we have these different shades. Because these shades exist specifically because purple cannot be standardized between plastic types. You have three or four different shades of purple because otherwise you'd have anomalies, and then the fans would be bitching about that.

THIS is the reason purple is disappearing. There are not other factors. Part integrity and aging are non-factors, and if people would READ all the posts, they would know this by now.

Edited September 2, 2008 by Darth Vader

[SuvieD]

The loss of purple isn't so bad. Teal would be a shame though. All the other colors getting fixed is a good to know.

I am really glad to hear that slopes are getting fixed also.

[splattergnome]

What current sets have purple pieces in them? And does this also effect other shades, such as pink, dark pink, violet, magenta, and the like?

[Bundalings]

I've got purple parts from as far back as 2001 and have Bricklinked nearly every damn purple or dark purple part (heavily) off Bricklink since then.

Seriously, I haven't seen problems with:

--color anomalies

--plastic integrity

--aging of any sort

It's one of the reasons probably that I like building with it. These parts ARE more stable than the chronically ailing white and other colors.

This all has to be just the cost for "easy" quality and them not feeling the need to pay up. Maybe there's tons of errors that are thrown out that we never see, I dunno'.

Actually I've had some trouble with purple sockets breaking. Of course, they're old and I have equal or greater trouble with other colors breaking, but w/e. : P

DV's posts have been noted.

I'm gonna hafta go get me some more monster pods and dark panthers...

And Sparks and Electros... and all those fighting teal/purple technic sets...

I miss you already, Purple. ;_;

Maybe we'll get more pink? I WISH

~Bunda

[JINZONINGEN73]

The problem is colour consistency. You HAVE seen anomalies in your purple, Jinzo. You just didn't put 2 and 2 together. Yes, within the old purple, there are no differences. Within the new purples, things all look the same. Etc and so on. But the anomaly here is the fact that we have these different shades. Because these shades exist specifically because purple cannot be standardized between plastic types. You have three or four different shades of purple because otherwise you'd have anomalies, and then the fans would be bitching about that.

THIS is the reason purple is disappearing.

My brain's not working right...

...So they're killing purple because they can only do some types of pieces using a specific mix while merely only being able to do other shades of purple due to other parts requiring a different mix?

If I'm wrong, ignore the rest of this post.

So what? Do purple wherever you can here and there. No need to kill all shades outright, especially since there's obviously a demand for it.

[Dadster]

I am really glad to hear that slopes are getting fixed also.

Yeah - there was almost a standing ovation when it was announced!

[Tenorikuma]

So what? Do purple wherever you can here and there. No need to kill all shades outright, especially since there's obviously a demand for it.

Agreed. 90% of all Lego is ABS, and they can certainly make a consistent purple with ABS. If they can't get a perfect match for rubbery Bionicle bits and Technic hoses, just avoid those parts.

I mean, it's not like we even get those parts in brown or dark blue yet anyway.

[Zarkan]

The last two are NOT reasons purple is being discontinued, and I blame Shiloh for putting out a vague story on BZP for this error. The problem is colour consistency. You HAVE seen anomalies in your purple, Jinzo. You just didn't put 2 and 2 together. Yes, within the old purple, there are no differences. Within the new purples, things all look the same. Etc and so on. But the anomaly here is the fact that we have these different shades. Because these shades exist specifically because purple cannot be standardized between plastic types. You have three or four different shades of purple because otherwise you'd have anomalies, and then the fans would be bitching about that.

THIS is the reason purple is disappearing. There are not other factors. Part integrity and aging are non-factors, and if people would READ all the posts, they would know this by now.

This honestly doesn't make sense, from what I see on Bricklink. At least according to their color chart, there are only two main shades of puple: old, bright purple, which was used in Technic, Bionicle, AND ABS - and the newer, darker purple, which has been used in everything from the Knights Kingdom kits to one of the X-pods to a couple kits this year. All the other purple shades have only been used in minor themes like Belvile, or a few other sets.

Also, I own a technic racer with some purple tubes and beams, and an alpha team set that had a couple of purple modified tiles. From what I can tell, there is a minor color difference between the tubes and tiles, but it's very small. And there is basically NO difference between the technic beams and tiles. What's the big deal?

When all of this adds up, I think that the guy who made this decision is overeacting. I just compared some soft blue technic parts to regular ABS blue parts, and there's a tiny difference there as well. Does this meant that TLC has to stop making blue parts as well? This really seems to be a big deal over something that the average consumer won't even notice, and the MOC'er won't care much about at all.

[JINZONINGEN73]

Lol, it's like we're back in medieval times and only KINGS can afford to have purple dye.

X D

[Justin]

You know what we should do about it? We should all sign a petition to get the people at the Lego Group to bring purple back.

[dviddy]

My brain's not working right...

...So they're killing purple because they can only do some types of pieces using a specific mix while merely only being able to do other shades of purple due to other parts requiring a different mix?

If I'm wrong, ignore the rest of this post.

So what? Do purple wherever you can here and there. No need to kill all shades outright, especially since there's obviously a demand for it.

What the deal is, is that they can make one shade of purple with, say, ABS. However, they cannot match that shade with PC or PE. This is unacceptable, and goes against the TLG colour quality control guidelines. While discrepancies are allowed, they are only allowed within a range, and if they can't fit into that range, the colour is dropped, and a different colour to replace it in TLGs limited colour pallet is created and used.

Agreed. 90% of all Lego is ABS, and they can certainly make a consistent purple with ABS. If they can't get a perfect match for rubbery Bionicle bits and Technic hoses, just avoid those parts.

I mean, it's not like we even get those parts in brown or dark blue yet anyway.

The QC guy said that only 60% of lego parts are ABS, the rest are made from over twenty other plastic types.

Nothing you guys can say will change what has been done. Seriously, it's time to stop bitching and go on with your lives.

[JINZONINGEN73]

Geez, sorry for (still) not quite understanding something.

You'd think we like purple in our Lego sets or something.

[Norro]

The minute I read that he was responsible for bley I was able to snap straight into protest mode. I'm sorry you others have to consider facts...

God Bless,

Nathan

[Shadows]

You know, I really don't understand why this was even mentioned. Colours come and go all the time. No one warned up when dark red was added, no one makes a big production about the lack of light-bright yellow or whatever that buttery colour is called, but they just had to announce the death of purple? I don't really have a point here, just wanted to share that bit of head-scratching thought.

I'll add this... if they hadn't mentioned it, could they have simply worked around it without anyone getting particularly bent out of shape? I mean, without an announcement, would anyone have even thought to start a "where has all the purple gone?" thread, and if they did, would it get as serious as this one where we have specific comments to point at? Has there ever been a, "waaaah, my purples don't match!!!" thread? I don't think so.

If I was TLG, I'd reconsider the nature of such announcements, official, unofficial, and sort of off-the-cuff as this seems to have been.

[Norro]

, no one makes a big production about the lack of light-bright yellow or whatever that buttery colour is called,

Just to add to my whinner acclaim: that really bothered me. I loved the colour and am still busy trying to source the odds and ends of it which were included in the bonus boxes...

God Bless,

Nathan

[Shadows]

I loved the colour and am still busy trying to source the odds and ends of it which were included in the bonus boxes...

I like it a lot as well, it's much more natural than the screaming regular yellow we always get. I chose it as an example because it's on my "add to order" list, the things I'll buy up in any store I happen to already be dealing with on Bricklink. All the shades of purple were already on that list, as well as a number of other uncommon colours.

I still don't have a plan for any of it, but if it's going to be difficult to get, I want more while I can find it.

[JINZONINGEN73]

Well, the reason it's so much more thought about is of course because it was mentioned in a press release, but also because it's purple, and ALL variations on purple.

I mean it's pretty high up on the basic color wheel, just one step beneath the primary colors!

Red yellow blue. They become green orange purple.

You have off-yellows, off-blues, off-greens that vanish, but not ALL yellow, blue or green.

The old purple more or less vanished one day, and that was sad.

Then this newer, darker (better looking, imo) version started bleeding in... that was wonderful.

Now, BOTH will be gone, along with sand purple, trans purple, etc? Yikes!

[Corvus]

Nothing you guys can say will change what has been done. Seriously, it's time to stop bitching and go on with your lives.

Well, as they say, "$hit Happens"...

[Holy Diver]

No eva unit-01 moc for me

Edited September 6, 2008 by Holy Diver

[dviddy]

Well, the reason it's so much more thought about is of course because it was mentioned in a press release, but also because it's purple, and ALL variations on purple.

It wasn't in a press release, and it wasn't part of the planned talk the TLG rep gave. We asked him, and he answered.

[Dennimator]

Whoops...

I´d better stock up on sets with purple (Dark Panther)...

Well, there´s always BL and eBay...(hope it doesn´t get too expensive...better save one or two DP:s MISB if it does... )

[JINZONINGEN73]

It wasn't in a press release, and it wasn't part of the planned talk the TLG rep gave. We asked him, and he answered.

Yeah, bad terminology on my part.

Only visitors of Lego fasn sites really got wind of this... not like it's a write-up in newspapers on a slow news day.

[Pencoin]

I think this guy needs to be sacked, i really see no difference in colour compareing my purple bricks except for really minor things that you get in other colours. Any one to start a petion to sack this guy?