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I'm glad everyone enjoyed it, thanks for the feedback. I did get a lot of ideas from mafiascum.net and Trexxen is right, it was modeled after traditional mafia games that are normally run at conventions. Apparently, it is common for some players to be able to switch affiliations and even players who can avoid detection by an investigator. I didn't want to go that far but thought the mafia could easily recruit one player and throw in some intrigue to the game. The paranoid gun owner came directly from the mafia-wiki on mafiascum but the vengeful spirit was my idea...I think. From what I remember I came up with it. If it's on the wiki, I'm wrong, but I wanted there to be a benefit to the townspeople if they lost their bodyguard. I thought a stronger role would be a good post-death addition especially since I didn't include a night-action blocker in this game.

Which leaves me with one confession to make: I had no intention of cutting Florence's existence short until DJ Force took out all the Baritones so quickly. To give the game a chance to play out and be entertaining and let the players do what they were supposed to do, I had to move Florence on to the next life. I equate it to competitive quizzing when someone "quizzes out the front door." If they get a certain number of questions right, they are removed from play. This ensures that one person with encyclopedic knowledge of a given subject can't blow through an entire Regional competition and just carry their team along... Really, it's nothing more than a compliment to the skill with which DJ Force played.

It was a tough balance. The thing I appreciated was how Hinck used what I wrote, whether accidentally or intentionally, to take the character in the exact direction I had intended. It made me feel like I had some control over a real life, as opposed to just being an actor in a part written by someone else completely.

Damn fine job, everyone! :thumbup:

That is why I love players like Shadows. I was given a lot to build on. His reaction to Florence's death added a lot of depth to the story and the little hints I left to his heritage and wrestling, or he left-we both built upon like true improv artists. That's the way to have fun during these games.

Which is why-when registration starts in February for Baritones 2-I'll be taking "applications" and select people to play from a pool of willing participants. Everyone who played this game is encouraged to sign up as you all did an outstanding job and a huge Thanks to Bob the Construction Man for letting me take over his Town Mystery. I hope you got a chance to know everybody and will be able to get in line to host one in the future. :grin:

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Ah, and now I get to reveal all of my plans... I knew who I wanted to kill, but didn't know how to defend myself.. unfortunate.

Notes: I had no idea who were the traitors. I also had no idea that randomparrot could kill two people.

Day 1: Oh, I was already very scared about the fact that I was the only one to "know" that they were FBI agents. It was a question I tried to avoid a lot, and instead tried to become a day investigator. I tried to ask people for suggestions, and tried to justify my stolen information, complete bs, because this town was so unprotected. Norington seemed to be suspicious of me, and I really did not like him asking me so many questions. I watched the bickering over Veronica, and felt that it would be great to kill off one of them. And I chose Lego12, so that' why I killed you off. I did not want to kill off Florence. I had no say in that.

Day 2: As mentioned earlier, Norington was sort of getting on my nerves. I didn't like being investigated by him during the day, and I'm surprised he didn't at least investigate me out of randomness for Night 1. So I decided with I Scream Clone that we would vote him out, and that's how that happened. It was disappointing to me how the others didn't really give great evidence on why they were accusing him, so I joined the band wagon late in order to avoid suspicion. The reason why I didn't kill him at night is that I wondered if people would have noticed that he was backing me up a little into a corner.

You may have also seen my hospitality to Dragonator. Because I did so, I did not want to kill him off right away. It just seemed a bit suspicious in my eyes. Besides, I already decided to kill VBBN, who was closest to Norington. I wanted to blame him for killing the FBI agents, and say he knew everything and he was the one who stole the briefcases Carter was looking for. Oh I wanted to kill her by voting! Not at night, unlike what Hinckley said. I was the one who wanted to kill Carter, unknowing that he was a traitor as mentioned earlier. That's another thing I wanted to frame VBBN for, killing off Carter since he was the one doing the investigations of the briefcases.

One more thing to mention is that I thought Florence was killed protecting someone, not killed directly. I had my suspicions that there was another Mafia gang out there, and was on high alert, and feared for my life.

Day 3: Well, the arsonist kind of confirmed the extra threat. I was suspicious that DJForece was not killed in fire, and now my theory has been disproved that the arsonist killed him. I was going to go with my plan to kill off Veronica, and kill off ImperialShadows since I heard he's quite the brilliant fellow. But then DJForce investigated me and turned me in. My story was still going to blame Veronica, but I already got backed into a corner. Hooray for bad negotiation skills!

Randomparrot got himself killed killing off Carter, which wouldn't have really affected me. I was still going to go along with my plan. Adam dying wasn't too good for me either, but that wouldn't have affected my plans either.

I gave one subtle hint when I did my confession post. "I hope I get my revenge in a long run.. if my fellow family members... though I don't consider them family any more... would kill anyone close to Florence." That was supposed to mean "The other Baritones voted for me, so narrow the list down." I thought it was a good hint. Maybe DJForce noticed. Just wish the citizens could have discussed it. Oh well!

One smaller hint was my warning about there's something else out there, but it was already kind of obvious.

Well that's my game play summary. Why didn't we kill two people on Day Three? That's something I'm curious about. And why didn't they kill people on Day Five? Those are my questions.

Scratch that about killing ImperialShadows in the night. I would have killed Dragonator, and then blamed ImperialShadows. Who's closest to them? Him! That would be how I would do it. Of course it wouldn't have worked because Dragonator is immune to night kills, but yeah. I would probably proceed to kill off the rest, not sure in what order. No offense to you guys, but you didn't do too much "intense" posting, nor were you too related to the events that were going on. So far you seemed to just analyze the clues, but I'm sure you would've found me out eventually.

And that is the story of Petey the Mayor, who influenced every night kill in order to blame someone in the morning. Unfortunately, he was unable to protect himself from accusations very well. He came up with impulsive lies when Florence used the evidence against him. I suppose he was a lot wiser at night, seeing as he got ran over because he didn't look both ways!

Go ahead and tear this all apart. I've been dying to post it, and maybe I left some stuff out.

Oh, and sign me up for Baritones 2! Petey II on!

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I was going to go with my plan to kill off Veronica, and kill off ImperialShadows since I heard he's quite the brilliant fellow.

Lies! Damn lies! Er... :blush:

But then DJForce investigated me and turned me in. My story was still going to blame Veronica, but I already got backed into a corner. Hooray for bad negotiation skills!

You wouldn't have made it far, even if Florence hadn't pointed you out. Darlene and I were both coming down on you. Basically, the whole family was on to you, buddy. :tongue:

We're not a family to be megablocked with, dead or alive. :devil:

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Lies! Damn lies! Er... :blush:

You wouldn't have made it far, even if Florence hadn't pointed you out. Darlene and I were both coming down on you. Basically, the whole family was on to you, buddy. :tongue:

We're not a family to be megablocked with, dead or alive. :devil:

Exactly why I was going to kill one of you after killing VBBN during the day. I thought I had the perfect plan to frame him, and I would have had the perfect plan to frame you, if Dragonator was able to be killed! And I would've gotten away with it too if it weren't for those meddling ghosts!

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Night 1, I went after Adam/Al. Somehow (stupid coin), I was unable to light that fire.

Night 2, your butt (swear filter for the word a$$??? Are you kiddin me?) got cooked dude!

Night 3, Trex, if you never said anything about having suspicions, I probably wouldn't have come after you. I actually had a tough time deciding who to go after. Shadows/Ivan, being a good player was on the top of my list, along with "SUPER BROAD"/Darlene. I Scream Clone/Iris was also on my list for that night. But, you said something and didn't justify it which gave me a little bit of fear, so I went after you.

Well done my friend, pun intended!

Thanks all of you, lots of fun, except for being killed off on DAY FOUR AGAIN BY DRAGONATOR IN TWO MAFIA GAMES IN A ROW!!!!!!!

And LEGO12, I would be more than happy to explain why you were shot 14 times. If someone is shot 14 times, or a shooter unloads an entire magazine into a victim, well.....I guess they really weren't liked for some reason. When I read your posts that first day, I thought you were on drugs! Seriously, you were all over the place. You were actually my first target on Day 1, but then I realized that I couldn't be the only one here that you were drivin' nutz. So, I left that duty to someone else, and it looks like they gotcha. I have no clue what you are like in the real world, but the way you played your character just drove me crazy. Nothing against you personally; please don't take this as an attack on you, just your character...

But that's just my opinion.

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I had Carter empty a whole clip into Sir Dillon's head, but that's just because he had the briefcase...and I wanted to make brains. :blush:

But yes, Lego12, you were shot 14 times because everyone was trying to kill you. Mostly because your character seemed insane...Again, nothing against you.

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I have no clue what you are like in the real world, but the way you played your character just drove me crazy. Nothing against you personally; please don't take this as an attack on you, just your character...
But yes, Lego12, you were shot 14 times because everyone was trying to kill you. Mostly because your character seemed insane...Again, nothing against you.

Ivan sort of wanted to killing him too. Not so much 'sort of'. :tongue: Ivan actually kick corpse in head sometimes when walking by, just for the makingses sureness. :laugh:

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I added the last frame to the first post.

In answer to the questions of who will return, in the sequel, we'll see Iris, Darlene, Ivan, Steve, Sky and the cross-dressing construction man. The opening will revolve around the death of one of these characters and the rest will be hidden somewhere in the game. Some characters will be pivotal in the plot but not be played by anyone and others will be undercover as other people... It would be impossible to let Shadows play Ivan again, everyone would assume he was good and make him an easy target...Sorry. Great characters, but nearly impossible to replace with a fair shake the second time around.

I forgot to say: Congratulations to the four survivors: ImperialShadows, Dragonator, WhiteFang and Quarryman. This was not an easy game to survive. Nice work! :grin:

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An Excellent conclusion to an excellent game, Hinck!

Now I´d like to shed some light on my night actions.

Sadly, I cannot remember whom I wanted to protect on Night 1. And it didn´t matter too much, since I got killed instantly.

Great bodyguard, able to protect everybody else but herself. *curses self*

Night 2, as I recall, was my "resurection" as a ghost. I had to learn my new ability but couldn´t use it yet. But as the powers above decribed what I may do now my first impulse was actually to investigate on Ivan. My intention there was totally personal, I wanted to make sure Ivan was a good citizen so I knew how to play my part to him.

Night 3, with all the evidence pointing towards Petey I thought it was clear for everyone that he must be a Baritone. But I wanted to be sure. It all could have just been a wrong turn and the citizens might have killed an innocent. So I investigated on Petey and confirmed... er... actually I guess I claimed him to be the Baritone in the first place, didn´t I? Never mind. As the Baritones can voice out their convictions, too and try to convince the citizens, I decided to protect the innocents with telling them for sure who a Baritone was. But after all, it was still up to the citizens to believe a ghosts stories.

On a side note: I wanted to investigate on Veronica first, because I too thought it was a little surprising how Neal and Veronica were talking to each other. Seemed they didn´t really like each other, though they were working together.

Night 4, after successfully getting rid of a Baritone, the citizens were more likely to trust me. So I picked up some hints from the day and tried to find out who another Baritone was. Betty was quite suspicious to me from the very beginning I remember, though now I don´t remember why :tongue:

That she turned out to be the new godfather was a surprise to me as well, but a pleasent surprise, since the citizens had the chance to take her down now.

Night 5, I couldn´t find any hints or clues as to whom I could investigate on, so I wanted to pick randomly. But then I thought that blood is thicker than water and decided to stand by my family. Darlene had some arguments with Iris and Iris was rather harsh in this argument, so I investigated on her, always forcing myself to assume that my family was innocent. As you all know it turned out that Iris was another Baritone, too. So I guess I was just lucky this time or had a good feeling for the game.

Last day, when the briefcase was opened and the clue was revealed I have to admit that I suspected Ivan and Darlene again. They both vouched for each other which always was okay since I knew that there was only one Baritone left. But I read the clue wrong and was assuming that not a traitor could be recruited but any citizen. My mind was playing tricks on me I guess. A scenario could have been that Ivan recruited Darlene (stick with the family to rebuild the Family). Another one, even worse, that Darlene hooked up on her sisters ex-hubby, seduced him to swap sides and become a Baritone. I don´t know if Hinck cut the clue intentionally to not only remove the word "traitor" as it would have made things too obvious, but also to lead in this wrong direction I picked up on.

Anyway, my night actions were gone after night 5 so this whole chapter was just for your reading pleasure :tongue:

Again, a great game and I hope to be able to play in the sequel, too! :cry_happy:

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The conclusion is finally up! :cry_happy:

This is the most enjoyable fun Mafia game I had ever play, including Mystery Castle, of course. Grim had an earlier death... :tongue: Hinckley, your conclusion is super enteraining and wonderful. I love the ending very much, never knew Sky was good with chains. Darlene, let's hook up later in the evening? :wink:

I will read through the rest of the comments later, as I had just got back home. It's a pity that my role as a FBI agent, was actually restricted to the Arsonist's case. I was not allowed to mention the word "arsonist" who is our enemines apart from the Baritones. It seemed no one know about the arsonist except for a few people, whom I had suspected, especially Iris. She was the one whom mentioned "arsonist" in the game. Clear enough, she was someone from the Baritones. Why am I so certain? It's not because of Florence's clue, I cast my vote because I know she has one of the key clues with her, which was Neal's second briefcase. In his second briefcase, it contain evidence of an arsonist's presence, but did not indicate whom it was. Furthermore, arsonist is a renegade, whom did not take sides from Bartiones or Citizens. That's why, there was a strong indication from Iris that she could be one of the culprits whom has access to Neal's second briefcase. Unfortunately, after Stan's death, I could not investigate further, and concerate on wiping out the rest of the Baritones.

What surprise me the most, is Darlene is able to pin point and eliminate Stan from the early game? How did you know he is the Arsonist? I was extremely surprised that the Arsonist was gone. As I don't have investigators' action, I could not investigate others, but to protect others from danger. I protected Darlene in Night 2 and Ivan in Night 3, as I suspect that they might have some interesting actions, which will be nice to observe further. At that moment, I had no confirmation of their allegiance until the next few days. It's a pity that my night actions stopped and was not able to discover useful clues in the night. I believe because of my night action disability, Ivan had removed me out of his usual suspect's list, as I was at home all day doing my painting. :tongue:

At the end, I was pending between Dillion and Carter.. Dillion, I am sorry. This is my biggest deadly mistake I had made in this game. The helmet color thing, was not concrete enough to sentence you. However, Day 7 was taking too long, and I was very frustrating and look deeper into the pictures. It seemed I had look at the wrong pictures instead. :cry_sad: I did not want to let that day go by without any judgement.

Hinckley is right, I had my doubts on Carter, but its not strong enough to make everyone believe he might be with the Baritones? Why? Because he was the "hero" whom discovered and killed the first godfather. I must admit that the Baritones had made the most wise choice, by recuriting him to the dark side, and the citizens trusted him for doing such a good deed... It's was too late, and we united against Carter in Day 8, while earlier days are unsuccessful attempts.

These are my key thoughts to this outstanding game, as a FBI Agent "Sky". I will add onto it, once I had sorted the rest of the reading. I am so glad that I will be joining the rest of you in Baritones part 2 next year. :wub:

Congrats to the rest of the survivors whom are ImperialShadows, Dragonator and Quarryman. :thumbup: Let's play it again!

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I didn't play in the game, but I followed your adventures every "game" day. I really enyoid them.

Next time I will try to join, this seems to be loads of fun AND a good strategy training.

I am looking forward to read the rules you came up with, Hinckley, and so I can study them at once, for the next Baritones game... :pir-wink:

Hinckley, you're the man here !

Yea I will probable sign up next time too [unless he makes it at some ridiculous time to sign up at! :tongue: ]

And I was following this I must admit great job Hinky

Um, anyway... Do you like my hair? :grin:

I do :grin:

Probable one of the best Lego female hair pieces....

Ivan sort of wanted to killing him too. Not so much 'sort of'. :tongue: Ivan actually kick corpse in head sometimes when walking by, just for the makingses sureness. :laugh:

LOL.

I pretty much ROFL'd at most comments Ivan/IS made :laugh:

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I added the last frame to the first post.

Lovely! :wub:

It would be impossible to let Shadows play Ivan again, everyone would assume he was good and make him an easy target...Sorry.

Ivan is understanding, as long as Shadows is playing someone. Anyone. Well, not so much cross-dressing construction man. Helmet mess up hair. :grin:

I forgot to say: Congratulations to the four survivors: ImperialShadows, Dragonator, WhiteFang and Quarryman. This was not an easy game to survive. Nice work! :grin:

Thanks! 'bout time I didn't get wiped out in something around here. :laugh: I credit our success to the lack of monkeys involved. :look:

Another one, even worse, that Darlene hooked up on her sisters ex-hubby, seduced him to swap sides and become a Baritone.

I never would have thinkingses such a thing. Though she do have the nice hair. :sweet::blush:

Congrats to the rest of the survivors whom are ImperialShadows, Dragonator and Quarryman. :thumbup: Let's play it again!

Definitely! :thumbup:

Though I must admit... I suspected you on and off. A lot. Ok, I actually wrote out a whole post condemning you before one nagging detail made me change it to Dillon. That nagging detail? Um... my old Mystery Castle theory about there being 2 of the same kind of person, and since there were 2 construction workers and I knew Steve didn't try to kill me, that left Dillon. Oops. Didn't work in Mystery Castle, didn't work here... :hmpf::laugh:

I pretty much ROFL'd at most comments Ivan/IS made :laugh: [/color]

Ivan was just so damn much fun to play. He had a lot of possibilities and I figured I should abuse as many as possible. :grin:

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I had Carter empty a whole clip into Sir Dillon's head, but that's just because he had the briefcase...and I wanted to make brains. :blush:

But yes, Lego12, you were shot 14 times because everyone was trying to kill you. Mostly because your character seemed insane...Again, nothing against you.

Everyone was trying to kill me......everyone wanted me dead? Hahaha! I'm not insane! I'm just nuts! Hahahaha!!!! :tongue:

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I hardly see how this was fair. Now don't all go saying i'm a sore loser :hmpf_bad: , but think about it.

Most of you don't know (and probably won't believe now) that I never got to kill anyone (except Patty, but Hinck did that). When I was a Traitor, all I got to do was vote for whomever the mob told me to. I did. I voted for Neal. That was it! Thats all I got to do! Plus, he had already been voted for several times! Soon after, I kill Patty, and I am recruited. I was told that we Baritones had to decide who to kill. I was not involved in that at all. I PMed someone, but we didn't really come up with anything. Over the next few days, killings started happening that did not involve me at all. When I was the only one left, I was finally able to kill. But I was thwarted, 3 times (you're all probably laughing now) by the same person. I really started to hate the game after I found out the only thing I could do, kill, wasn't going to happen.

Now we find out Darlene had killed some people, and she just gets to go kill me! So. To sum up. I am totally innocent (yeah, yeah, yeah, noone believes me) of all charges, except killing Patty.

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I hardly see how this was fair. Now don't all go saying i'm a sore loser :hmpf_bad: , but think about it.

Most of you don't know (and probably won't believe now) that I never got to kill anyone (except Patty, but Hinck did that). When I was a Traitor, all I got to do was vote for whomever the mob told me to. I did. I voted for Neal. That was it! Thats all I got to do! Plus, he had already been voted for several times! Soon after, I kill Patty, and I am recruited. I was told that we Baritones had to decide who to kill. I was not involved in that at all. I PMed someone, but we didn't really come up with anything. Over the next few days, killings started happening that did not involve me at all. When I was the only one left, I was finally able to kill. But I was thwarted, 3 times (you're all probably laughing now) by the same person. I really started to hate the game after I found out the only thing I could do, kill, wasn't going to happen.

Now we find out Darlene had killed some people, and she just gets to go kill me! So. To sum up. I am totally innocent (yeah, yeah, yeah, noone believes me) of all charges, except killing Patty.

Wow. Sour grapes, huh? I even told you on your first day as Godfather that one character was impossible to kill and one was difficult to kill and you kept going after Darlene and Ivan. Your fault, really. I still say-as I did earlier-that I'm so glad you came into the game because you played my favorite role so well, but I am disappointed that you're such a poor sport at the end. I still hope you play next time, though! :sweet: You did a great job...

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Wow. Sour grapes, huh? I even told you on your first day as Godfather that one character was impossible to kill and one was difficult to kill and you kept going after Darlene and Ivan. Your fault, really. I still say-as I did earlier-that I'm so glad you came into the game because you played my favorite role so well, but I am disappointed that you're such a poor sport at the end. I still hope you play next time, though! :sweet: You did a great job...

Sorry Hinck. I forgot you said one was imposible - I thought you meant Florence :tongue: . I had to try and kill one of them though. Seems you put a lot of F.B.I. members in this game, yet none of them did anything :look: . I honestly didn't think Carter was an important role. Noone didn't suspect him from early on but, he seemed a bit too old, and like I said, I didn't get to kill anyone. If I had of started killing citizens, what would have happened? Like If I just killed Dillon, or Sky, or Pete when I became GodFather. I'm quite curious. I thought that would have been stupid, but if I had killed Sky (Mr. F.B.I.) maybe something crazy would have happened.

Oh well, in the long run, it really was my fault. I'm just so peeved that I didn't spill any blood. Don't worry. I'm sane.

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Sorry Hinck. I forgot you said one was imposible - I thought you meant Florence :tongue: . I had to try and kill one of them though. Seems you put a lot of F.B.I. members in this game, yet none of them did anything :look: . I honestly didn't think Carter was an important role. Noone didn't suspect him from early on but, he seemed a bit too old, and like I said, I didn't get to kill anyone. If I had of started killing citizens, what would have happened? Like If I just killed Dillon, or Sky, or Pete when I became GodFather. I'm quite curious. I thought that would have been stupid, but if I had killed Sky (Mr. F.B.I.) maybe something crazy would have happened.

Oh well, in the long run, it really was my fault. I'm just so peeved that I didn't spill any blood. Don't worry. I'm sane.

:laugh: No, I understand. I was pulling for you too. I thought you had a chance to win it! One more attempt on Ivan would've killed him. Losing Ivan would've been huge for you. All you had to do was to widdle it down to you and Darlene to win, so killing Sky, Dillon or Steve would've helped and none of them were protected. They would've just died...

Oh well, hindsight is 20/20. I hope you get to kill someone in the next game you play...if not for your sake, for society's! :look:

:tongue:

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I folowed this game closely, especially the last few days. I'll write a longer response later, but for now... Awesome job Savvy, the pictures and story were very violent, but also very sweet at times. It was also very funny. Ritz, you also didn't disappoint, you were really great as Ivan, and Draggy, it was fun to see you play instead of host, and you were great at it. To the other two suvivor... great job, you both played it very well! Longer post later, promise Savvy!

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Greatest...ending...ever! The games was GREAT Hinkley, ever day was filled with suspence. All the days leading up to Flints death I was wondering: Who is it? Is it me? Wow, wouldn't wanna kill him? Every day this was the first place I went everyday, except for day five (I think :tongue: . It was the day after the night I died.) and I went to the LEGO Batman game thread first... then saw my dead avater... :sadnew: . Once Again, great game Hinkley!

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Wow, what a fast and thrilling ride! I had a great time picking up on your little plot developments in creating Iris. I started out as 4th on the ladder. We all had no idea who the traitors were. Much discussion between the underlings took place, though not much with randomparrot. I decided to take on a more senior role amongst the goons as the other three were all fairly new to mafia games. I was able to stop the murder of Neal, as we were worried that some evidence may be picked up on his camera, thus we conscripted the help of the two traitors to get a vote going for Neal instead which proved quite useful. I was a little annoyed at myself for going after Darlene so hard as this tipped my hat to DJForce (well played by the way) when up until now the only clue that could have given me away was the note found on Adam detailing his links to the Mafia, which I brushed off saying he was two timing me. I loved the pantsless romp I had for the last few months and the Avatars were a nice touch too.

I knew there was something up with Darlene from the get go but couldn't get a lead. Also summed up Ivans protection ability fairly quickly. Couldn't pick the arsonist though he was killed off at the right time. Myself and Bob/Betty knew we had to recruit Carter or DJ would have ended the game pretty quickly.

More later :classic:

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Yeah, my short rule as godfather was the best. It was a smart idea to recruit Carter, wasn't it?

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Hey.. I'm not that new.. alright, I am. You and I actually PMed each other a lot about things. We came up with good agreements!

I forgot to add that I did not suspect a non-Baritone member to be the one doing the Day Killing. I thought it was a Baritone who's ability was unknown to me. At first I thought that there was also a secret Baritone, but I remembered that Carter was a traitor and could be recruited.

Oh, and I'll kill you Sky! I wanted to be with Darlene! :cry_sad:

Hahah... I await Witch Hunt!

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