September 16, 200915 yr The new movie will eventually change that situation, but I recall the last television series (Enterprise) that had it´s troubles - not only in the U.S. I read in a poll that the reason Enterprise failed was because most of the people who watched it, watched it in digital while at the time the brodcasting agencies were still recording ratings for the old tv system.
September 24, 200915 yr The first and foremost reason Enterprise failed was because the show as a whole sucked and failed to win either new fans or old ones. I'm sure the HD/analogue issue didn't help but who would have wanted to watch that show when there are so many other good ones (including Galactica) out there.
September 24, 200915 yr No, I have no doubt that the SW universe is more popular than star trek. But star trek has been around longer, and does have a huge following. The word 'trekkie' doesn't exist without cause. This wasn't an attempt to say one is better than the other (I know both camps tend to look down on the other) simply saying that there would be a market for it. I wasn't aware a competitor already had the star trek license...its too bad, as I think its a huge opportunity. The problem is that huge following is 99% adults. For as awesome as us AFOL's are, I don't think LEGO designs sets specifically with us in mind. Star Trek would have no real appeal to young kids which is primarily LEGO's target market. Also the Mega Blocks issue as well as LEGO already having the Star Wars theme as well as their own Space theme. I can almost guarantee this is not happening fo the reasons above.
September 24, 200915 yr The biggest difference between Star Wars and Star Trek is that Star Wars has gone into the toilet in recent years and Star Trek has just received a remake that will boost it to new heights.
September 24, 200915 yr Hmm, I'm gonna have to vote no on the idea of Lego Star Trek sets. I'm actually a pretty big fan of certain Trek series. I grew up watching ST:TNG, and also ST:DS9 (one of my favorite TV shows ever). I can also watch TOS and Voyager from time to time without the urge to turn it off. And I've even tried my hand at a few Trek MOC's over the years. But for reasons that others have already stated, I don't think ST would do well in the Lego universe. It's just not a good match.
September 25, 200915 yr The first and foremost reason Enterprise failed was because the show as a whole sucked and failed to win either new fans or old ones. I'm sure the HD/analogue issue didn't help but who would have wanted to watch that show when there are so many other good ones (including Galactica) out there. That's your opinion but I think the HD/Analog issue plus the fact you had Next Gen,D9, and Voyager all premiring back to back so that people got sick of Star Trek by the time of enterprise. Yes Enterprise might have seemed bad to some people, and I admit it had it's problems (bad theme song,some bad episodes) but I think it was a much better show compared to voyager which really was just a continuation of Next Gen just with a different crew, in a different ship that could'nt contact starfleet. Enterprise at least was more original, had unique storylines to the time period it was set in and had some pretty strange aliens. To get back on topic I would love Star trek lego but I really just don't see it happening in the near future .
October 10, 200915 yr I always longed for a Star Trek lego theme. It's my greatest lego-wish since forever. A lego enterprise, lego voyager...vorcha attack cruiser, ferengi marauder, romulan warbird. Figure-scale sized shuttles, the defiant. I'd buy every last set they'd release! As for why Star Trek failed in the 00's: in this decade people don't like SF anymore like they used to. :( Other nice SF series like 'firefly' didn't make it too.. Well, there still is the new battle star galactica and farscape, but in the '90's there were a LOT more SF series. Maybe in the '10's we'll have a resurrection...there are a lot SF movies in the cinema ATM. :) So maybe there will be more SF lego as well (a long shot, but still!) Edited October 10, 200915 yr by Poekie Poes
October 14, 200915 yr While I doubt Lego will get the Star Trek license there's no reason they couldn't, especially since there is already a sequel to this summer's "rebooted" Star Trek in the works and talk of a third film already. Additionally there's a long 40+ year history of Star Trek to draw upon for sets. There are plenty of playset ideas for a Star Trek line. Bridges, engineering, transporter rooms, sick bays, and shuttle bays are only a few of the possibilities for playset types of sets. Given the various types of Federation starships featured in the TV series and films that's more than enough to sustain a long line. Imagine all of the "swooshable" non-minifigure-scale versions of the various ships that could be made to say nothing of smaller, minifigure-scale vessels as well. To date, we've seen more than four dozen small ships, shuttles and support craft (the Enterprise-D alone carried 10 different types, three of which were seen on TV series and a fourth in the film Generations, not to mention the Calypso, the Captain's Yacht, which is visible on the bottom of the saucer section) that could be made. Hence any argument that there aren't vehicle possibilities is really not accurate. If anything, the Star Trek line would have a greater range of set possibilities given the various playsets that are possible. As for the potential of Lego producing this license, many people once thought Indiana Jones would never be produced by Lego either. Hard to say what the future will bring. "'There are always possibilities,' Spock said." -- Kirk's log at the end of Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
October 14, 200915 yr LEGO Star Trek would be great, imagine all the Ships we have seen in all those 40 Years, even if TLC would make only 10% of them it would be a massive fleet. Unlike other Sci-Fi themes, it would be possible not only to focus on conflict but to exploration of Space. But form a Realistic point of view, i doubt there will be any Star Trek lego theme in the near future. With Star Wars, TLC has already a sucessful sci-fi license, which is sadly far more appealing to children than Star Trek. And yes, i dont like Star Wars, but don't tell annyone. Edited October 14, 200915 yr by Yreodred
October 14, 200915 yr As for why Star Trek failed in the 00's: in this decade people don't like SF anymore like they used to. :( Other nice SF series like 'firefly' didn't make it too.. Well, there still is the new battle star galactica and farscape, but in the '90's there were a LOT more SF series. Maybe in the '10's we'll have a resurrection...there are a lot SF movies in the cinema ATM. :) While Fantasy has certainly enjoyed a bit of a resurgence this decade (Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, the Twilight series, etc.), I wouldn't say that people don't like SF anymore. Especially on TV, we've had great SF shows like Battlestar Galactica and Lost, which have brought in tons of viewers beyond the usual SF fans. My wife loves Lost, and she hates sci-fi! This fall, there are quite a few sci-fi TV shows on (Fringe, Flash Forward, V, Supernatural, Dollhouse, etc.) You could even make an argument that all those comic book superhero movies are "sci fi," and they're making tons of money. So, if anything, I'd say that SF has gone mainstream, and is no longer the sole domain of nerds living in their mom's basement. It's now socially acceptable to be a sci-fi fan. As for Lego Trek, as others have noted, the set possibilities are endless. Lego obviously loves their vehicle-based themes, and Trek would be perfect for that (much more so than Indy). And the mini-figs ... with five shows and dozens of alien species to draw from, man, they could go nuts with the mini-figs. Unfortunately, as Yreodred noted, the problem is the Star Wars license. I think there's too much overlap in the fans, and the two licenses would cannibalize each other. Until the Star Wars license expires, I don't see Lego signing a deal with Paramount to get the Trek license. It's fun to dream though, isn't it? Klingon minifigs ...
October 15, 200915 yr While it is certainly true that ST has a LOT of ships (40 years worth) that may be built to minifig scale, they're just boring. While Lego can create minifig scale Falcons, X-wings etc till the cows come home. What you have with ST is a bunch of vaguely different shuttlecraft that have very little playability. And minifigs? Each version of ST has a main crew of around 10 characters, that's barely enough to sustain a couple of sets. The rest only have bit-pieces on certain episodes and are far too obscure for TLG to consider making separate versions of. Look how long it took them to get a Mon Calamari head out. I think for those who want to get ST lego going, mocs are the best option. I've seen some great ones out there and to the first guy who makes an accurate mini-fig scale Defiant, I tip my hat.
October 16, 200915 yr I think the biggest problem for someone who is going to build Star trek Mocs/ possible Sets would be the enormous scale differences. (as Example: length of a Defiant class escort ca 170m and a borg cube with a lenght of ca. 3000m) Let's assume TLC would get the ST license, there would be nearly an infinte number of possible sets, there are 7 series with all together around 700 episodes, and (now) 11 Movies, set in at least 3 different Timeframes. But i think Star Trek is, unlike Star Wars, not enough action oriented and so not enough appealing to Children, which is the main audience of TLC. And year LEGO Klingons would be more than awesome... quapla
October 17, 200915 yr But i think Star Trek is, unlike Star Wars, not enough action oriented and so not enough appealing to Children, which is the main audience of TLC. What do you mean, I mean have you seen the last Star Trek Movie? LOL!
October 17, 200915 yr Well to be honest, no i did not had have the chance to watch it by now. But from what i have heard, its more a Star wars than a ST Movie. Maybe ST will change into something that Kids may like, if we like it or not.
November 3, 200915 yr I, personally, would love to see a Star Trek Lego franchise. I'm neither a true trekkie nor a 'star wars-ie' but star trek poses much more interest than star wars... for example (comparatively) save the tools/droids/control systems, how much sci fi stuff is there? less than Star trek - tricorders and 'rifles' for example. Space travel features in both, though that 'hyperdrive' system sounds rather like 'warp' - except warp drives rely on an actual core rather than just a large exhaust port... And yes, there is a scaling issue - but what about a 'modular' range which allows the user to buy seperate shuttle bays, bridges, medical bays, main engineering etc. rooms and combine them in different ways? If you want accurate scale models, we could have a mini /midi series which has all the essential models. And star trek features as much if not wider variety of alien races than SW. Star wars was only done (first!) becuase it's more aimed at kiddies.
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