WhiteFang Posted November 18, 2008 Posted November 18, 2008 Unbelievable! Or maybe not so. The military hasn't done anything in all of this, but you'll take care of it. I suppose the three of you will be invading some neighbouring city soon, in hopes of finding those evil terrorwitches? Hear this and understand it. If the Inquisitor is killed tomorrow, and turns out to be innocent, I will not rest until Charles has been dealt with. Will you all stand so firmly against him, as you are against the Church, or will you allow him to weasel out of it and continue to live and manipulate you? If there are still enough good souls left in this town at that point, we will stop you, by God! Alexander, my military along with my men, have always placed Azfure's safety as the top priority. Even though, the military do not contribute much in the investigation, but I can assure you that the soldiers including myself are doing our parts to protect every citizens in town, despite of our limited resources. I had placed my faith in god and the church, and I trust you, Alexander. However, a far distant person, whom is known as the Inquisitor might come and poison us all. There is no way, we could get any clues from the death of 4 heretics. I can't believe so. With paranoid investigations and tortures, I am going to find it hard to understand whom is telling the truth. Everyone of us have a role to play. From my own perspective, it's either a risk or gain. There is no further "story development" in this games. Can we be really so smart? Then, with our past judgements, such as the shoppers. If we placed John at the fire pit, it won't be any surprise that he is a heretic too... What we need is a breakthrough. It seemed that we are not getting on any further, with clues from Sergio and Mustafa, indicating that they are heretics too. Take a moment and think about it. Is there any useful leads which we could find? Or take a risk and convict one of the three, and rid us one of the possible heretics among them.
Shadows Posted November 18, 2008 Posted November 18, 2008 Before there are any more accusations thrown about, let's clarify one thing visually. The Inquisitor may be the one who says, "HERETIC!" as they burn, but it's God who sends them to hell. If they weren't heretics, would he do that? Those Burning in the Flames of Hell:- Bernard (Trexxen)- Burned at the Stake: Day 2 - A once humble vendor taken by the Devil. - Cassandra (Bob the Construction Man) - Burned at the Stake: Day 3 - Her excessive lipstick now burns in the fiery hell that it deserves. - Sabrina (Lt. Col. Thok alexrider7 I Scream Clone) - Burned at the Stake: Day 4 - A filthy split personality witch - but she had very nice hair. - Hernan (stash2sixx) - Burned at the Stake: Day 5 - A passionate farmer, recently corrupted by the Devil's gaze. Consider that case closed. Now stop trying to distract the issue and stop doubting our successes, those are proven. The matter to decide is how we have been successful and how much we can trust it in the future. You will also note that both Bernard and Hernan's obits would lead one to believe that they were converted, not always bad. In the case of Hernan, if even says "recently", and since he wasn't one of those investigated by the Inquisitor, he couldn't have been converted in that manner, so that kills another idiotic theory. See how a little fact can wash away the stain of lies and allegations that have no foundation? Look deeper, people, before it's too late!
WhiteFang Posted November 18, 2008 Posted November 18, 2008 The only way for this theory to foil, is "god" stepping in, and drop us some kind of light upon us, to determine that this 4 citizens are truly convicted to be heretic. The results are true, but how authentic the results is. No one but God and Inquistitor knows.
Hinckley Posted November 18, 2008 Posted November 18, 2008 Before there are any more accusations thrown about, let's clarify one thing visually. The Inquisitor may be the one who says, "HERETIC!" as they burn, but it's God who sends them to hell. If they weren't heretics, would he do that?Consider that case closed. Now stop trying to distract the issue and stop doubting our successes, those are proven. The matter to decide is how we have been successful and how much we can trust it in the future. I've thought of this too and it does weigh on me, oh wise Father. But I think if Tiny Pius was to pull off a great twist like this we would have to be duped, even by him, in this way. Witchcraft is powerful and should not be underestimated. The Lord is more powerful, but that doesn't mean the devil isn't powerful yet. We mere humans have to be smart and ever vigilante. The powers of the devil are strong and the only way to survive is to fight with the power of the real Lord, not this false prophet Tiny Pius. Father, please consider the possibilities of my theory. I hope to not lose any more townspeople to evil... To clarify...- You are allowed to communicate with other players via PM - Don't take my word as fact. Some information or clues could possibly be misleading, just as some could be helpful. So sayeth Tiny Pius.
Dragonator Posted November 18, 2008 Posted November 18, 2008 You are both making very good points. This is always the problem when two head-strong players go against one another. There is one thing that I think we should consider. There are still witches amongst us, and it is my belief that either Charles or the Father are a heretic. One of then must be, as they are very clearly against each other, and some of you may remember this conflict from Day 1. The question is, which one? If we follow Charles' theory, then we would be going after the "three witches" as it were, and this includes the Father. He suggests that the best way to prove his case would be to kill the Inquisitor, someone who has not been giving correct Investigation results recently. Or we can follow the Father, who claims that obviously Charles has been turned in the night, and that he is the witch. Either way, there are some definite sides forming now, and we are each going to need to decide who we believe is telling the truth. Which ever way we go, we will soon know the truth of the matter. Here are a few possible things that could happen, as I see it. 1. We follow Charles' theory and convict the Inquisitor. He turns out to be a heretic, so we follow the rest of his plan. 2. We follow Charles' theory and convict the Inquisitor. He turns out to be innocent, so we convict Charles as the heretic. 3. We follow the Father's theory and convict Charles. He turns out to be a heretic, so the case is solved. 4. We follow the Father's theory and convict Charles. He turns out to be innocent, in which case we follow his plan and convict the three witches. To me, these seem like the four most likely outcomes of our discussions. No matter how it goes, we will eventually learn the truth, but we must choose wisely if we are to prevent any innocent people from being killed. Personally, my gut feeling is still to go with Charles, yet Alexander makes some excellent points that shouldn't be ignored. Tomorrow, once we get some new evidence (I hope), we can start to look into this whole thing a bit more deeply, and then perhaps we will see which side is God's side, and which is the devils. As I said from the beginning, this game... of life... will get dirty, but we must try to hold together and continue to think clearly. We must hear both sides of the story in full before making a decision. The fate of the town could rest on this one.
Hinckley Posted November 18, 2008 Posted November 18, 2008 1. We follow Charles' theory and convict the Inquisitor. He turns out to be a heretic, so we follow the rest of his plan.2. We follow Charles' theory and convict the Inquisitor. He turns out to be innocent, so we convict Charles as the heretic. 3. We follow the Father's theory and convict Charles. He turns out to be a heretic, so the case is solved. 4. We follow the Father's theory and convict Charles. He turns out to be innocent, in which case we follow his plan and convict the three witches. Makes perfect sense to me. Except of course that if my theory is correct Fernando would tell you I was a witch either way. Hopefully Miguel would give me a true verdict if you decide to have him shoot me. Let's not forget this, though: To clarify...- You are allowed to communicate with other players via PM - Don't take my word as fact. Some information or clues could possibly be misleading, just as some could be helpful. So sayeth Tiny Pius. This is important information. It says to me that his list of "Burning in Hell" could, in fact, be misleading.
MagPiesRUs Posted November 18, 2008 Author Posted November 18, 2008 Note that I have never once claimed to be God himself. I am simply the unseen narrator of piety from Azufre. I suppose you can call me Tiny Pious. Also, it was very silly of me to include this quote in my OP, as it is rather misleading to say the least. I've removed it now. - There are a lot less heretics/witches than there are town members initially, though it is possible for them to convert town members.
Zepher Posted November 18, 2008 Posted November 18, 2008 Hear this and understand it. If the Inquisitor is killed tomorrow, and turns out to be innocent, I will not rest until Charles has been dealt with. Will you all stand so firmly against him, as you are against the Church, or will you allow him to weasel out of it and continue to live and manipulate you? If there are still enough good souls left in this town at that point, we will stop you, by God! Father hear me now. I think that this is another thing that the Inqusitor can prove. You said that I was foolish for killing a man who may be innocent, but we need to do what's best for the town. Alll the other's that we've killed could of been innocent, but you did not fight for them this hard. Again, he'll prove so much. He's Guilty Reconsider if thee others were witches, HE PROCLAIMED THEM ALL TO BE SO! Disregard his investigations Kill the father He's Innocent Kill Mustafa and Sergio Consider all the witches witches. Either way it leads us to knew answears,and in proving he's innocent we'd know for a fact the lasttwo witches. That could save us times and LIVES! We need to distance ourselves, takwe our emotions out of it. How can we save the most lives. Now it's time for bed. Come, I'm tired Charles. Let's have a child.
Adam Posted November 18, 2008 Posted November 18, 2008 One problem with the whole kill Fernardo idea- how do we know if he is innocent? He's the one that calls out a player's role, and how would we know if he (or anyone else for that matter) is a witch/heretic?
Darth_Legois Posted November 18, 2008 Posted November 18, 2008 There is no further "story development" in this games. Can we be really so smart? Then, with our past judgements, such as the shoppers. If we placed John at the fire pit, it won't be any surprise that he is a heretic too... What we need is a breakthrough. It seemed that we are not getting on any further, with clues from Sergio and Mustafa, indicating that they are heretics too. Take a moment and think about it. Is there any useful leads which we could find? Or take a risk and convict one of the three, and rid us one of the possible heretics among them. HEY! There's hardly any evidence against me but for going shopping acouple times with people I didn't even know where witches! Well we've been lucky not one innocent dead...yet. But there is definitely something going on! games...of life aren't this easy! I'm kinda leaning to killing someone, because in other games...of life by the end of the game there's not exactly no innocents dead- There's always casualties.. The only way for this theory to foil, is "god" stepping in, and drop us some kind of light upon us, to determine that this 4 citizens are truly convicted to be heretic. The results are true, but how authentic the results is. No one but God and Inquistitor knows. What? You need a shining beam from heaven and a voice thay will say "..Those 4 people convicted are witches!" Arrgghh Im going back to sleep! But I doubt I'll get much sleep.
Zepher Posted November 18, 2008 Posted November 18, 2008 One problem with the whole kill Fernardo idea- how do we know if he is innocent? He's the one that calls out a player's role, and how would we know if he (or anyone else for that matter) is a witch/heretic? *Calling from window* I am sure that there would be a way, we wouldn't be in the dark. By the way you're also high on my suspscion list. now good night. *Slams shutters shut*
Hinckley Posted November 18, 2008 Posted November 18, 2008 One problem with the whole kill Fernardo idea- how do we know if he is innocent? He's the one that calls out a player's role, and how would we know if he (or anyone else for that matter) is a witch/heretic? That's the whole thing, isn't it? We don't know how he's doing it either, so this should definitely bring something new to the game, either way. The words we received from Tiny Pious make me believe my theory even more. What? You need a shining beam from heaven and a voice thay will say "..Those 4 people convicted are witches!" [/color] We seemed to have gotten such a beam and light, but it said "Don't believe me..." Vote: Fernando tomorrow and we will get a clear answer... Let's make two babies, Joan. I'm feeling Frisky and that's very rare.
Zepher Posted November 18, 2008 Posted November 18, 2008 Sounds fair to me, my love. Elisa, you may be dismissed tonight, I do not think we will be needing your services to guard the door. Have a good night dear!
Adam Posted November 18, 2008 Posted November 18, 2008 Yes, but we'd be even more in the dark- we wouldn't have any results or anything to go on. *Goes looking for a good looking woman...*
Scouty Posted November 18, 2008 Posted November 18, 2008 Sounds fair to me, my love. Elisa, you may be dismissed tonight, I do not think we will be needing your services to guard the door. Have a good night dear! Nighty night, milady! Good night, lords. Ring me if you need me.
Adam Posted November 18, 2008 Posted November 18, 2008 Nighty night, milady!Good night, lords. Ring me if you need me. Mind if I give you a ring tonight?
Scouty Posted November 18, 2008 Posted November 18, 2008 Mind if I give you a ring tonight? I do work for you, you know?
Adam Posted November 18, 2008 Posted November 18, 2008 I do work for you, you know? It is a type of "work" I need your help with.
Scouty Posted November 19, 2008 Posted November 19, 2008 If it's of the services of a maid, then, yes.
Adam Posted November 19, 2008 Posted November 19, 2008 Oh, it is- my library, over the years, has accumulated so much dust that it seems like white books are now grey. Would you mind dusting them? It's a big library, I warn you.
ptdapen Posted November 19, 2008 Posted November 19, 2008 Ahahahhaa... I love how people are so willing to try out Charle's theory and yet didn't want to try any others! If he was a witch, then all of you are going to be manipulated and end up killing each other! *cough* Sorry, I just found that incredibly funny. I also don't understand why people want me to get executed if Charles is killed and turns out innocent. Only the priest is accusing him. I for one think that Charles has come up with excellent points, and because I cannot say how I know that they are heretics because I simply don't know, I do not know how to defend myself. As for Martinus, I'm not exactly sure what he has said recently.. sorry good man. Oh, but there is something you have to consider. The statement that there are a lot less witches has been wiped out. Let all ye consider this: There once was a fair city, named after the moon's light because it is very shiny. Heretics where there as well, and they had blackmailed two men because of their debts. One of them kept a gun and shot the leader when they tried to kill him. The people trusted him for a long time, but finally killed him and found out he had been converted. Perhaps that is what was meant by how they can convert people. Perhaps I am wrong, but I personally think that is something to consider. Anyways, even if I do turn out innocent, how do you know that I am not paranoid? Sure, when you know my faith for real, you'll trust in me, but perhaps my words should not be trusted. In the morning, give me time and I'll be able to see whether or not an innocent comes out. I've considered ito the best of my judgment. Oh I wonder who will announce the witches if I am gone. I suppose you will all burn him or her, and you might also kill the executioner. And then a new executioner will come up, until the executions start happening randomly. People do get ran over by horses when they run away from those type of things! Well, I'm sorry if I went off babbling about nonsense, but I am sure there's at least something worth talking about. Hopefully we'll be able to find out the truth in the morning, or I'm afraid I'm a dead man.
Dragonator Posted November 19, 2008 Posted November 19, 2008 Hopefully we'll be able to find out the truth in the morning, or I'm afraid I'm a dead man. I second that. I for one think your paranoid Fernando, so it is possible to me that you are indeed innocent. That is what I thought until Hinckley brought up his points. Hopefully tomorrow your next investigation shall be able to shed some light on this matter.
Shadows Posted November 19, 2008 Posted November 19, 2008 We seemed to have gotten such a beam and light, but it said "Don't believe me..." What if there are no witches at all? What if this is just a case of mass hysteria? I'm starting to think it could be, given the fact that in no other game ... of life ... like this that I've heard of, would the narrator/host/whatever potentially lie about the loyalty of the dead. If they were declared "uncertain" or "no evidence" I would buy it, but to say they're burning in hell indicates knowledge that should be absolute. Insanity. Pure insanity. Let's make two babies, Joan. I'm feeling Frisky and that's very rare. Now I know you've been turned.
Hinckley Posted November 19, 2008 Posted November 19, 2008 What if there are no witches at all? What if this is just a case of mass hysteria? I'm starting to think it could be, given the fact that in no other game ... of life ... like this that I've heard of, would the narrator/host/whatever potentially lie about the loyalty of the dead. If they were declared "uncertain" or "no evidence" I would buy it, but to say they're burning in hell indicates knowledge that should be absolute. Imagining that you are on the side of the heretics make this argument much weaker...
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