Algernon Posted January 24, 2009 Posted January 24, 2009 (edited) Pfft, you Bionicle fans have already SEEN your summer sets. Edited January 24, 2009 by Algernon Quote
Mr Spielbrick Posted January 24, 2009 Posted January 24, 2009 Anywho, I'm liking the dog, hating the villan(impulse). It seems thrown together, ad the figure looks really bad. My guess would be that this cobbled together thing represents what isn't there yet: a new alien head mold. But maybe that's wishful thinking. Quote
Draykov Posted January 24, 2009 Posted January 24, 2009 (edited) My guess would be that this cobbled together thing represents what isn't there yet: a new alien head mold. But maybe that's wishful thinking. I'd say that's a safe bet. Just to put things in perspective a bit, check out the comparison between this preliminary set vs. the production version from the Aquaraiders theme. Point being, things can change quite a bit between the time a leaked photo first emerges and the time its final version hits toy stores. In this example, they nixed the small crab altogether and ended up putting a bigger version of it in 7774. They also drastically improved the minisub. Edited January 24, 2009 by Draykov Quote
danth Posted January 24, 2009 Posted January 24, 2009 (edited) Actually, I was simply saying that there isn't an intelligent argument against it. But they were miles above this. It's not about intelligent arguments, it's about common sense. But since you apparently don't have the benefit of that, let me explain the obvious to you. 1)SPACE police should be about SPACE. A flying car with a big air intake has nothing to do with space. And -- this is just some more common sense for you -- the flying car has a uncolored car windshield. That might be fine for Star Wars, but traditionally in SPACE Lego sets, canopies are colored. Blue, yellow, green, red, orange, whatever. Plus -- more obvious stuff here -- they typically use spacey canopies and not car windshields. An uncolored car windshield just screams CITY. 2)The flying car and police space ship really clash. They don't look like they belong in the same theme, because the police ship looks spacey and the flying car just looks futuristic. Are you following me? Not exactly rocket science here. Most people want their Lego themes to at least look cohesive. 3)It is possible to like Lego and not be a fan of Star Wars. The new movies are garbage and tainted the whole Star Wars experience for me. You act like one of those people who think Star Wars fans must like Star Trek too, I mean it's all just space, right? The whole point of Lego is that you can build your own worlds. Kinda hard to do that when you buy a box full of light sabers and storm troopers. I guess this would occur to you if you, ya know, thought about it for a second. You see, these problems should jump out at you if you have looked at the preliminary pictures. You're not waiting for an intelligent argument, you're looking for someone to explain the obvious to you. So enough of this "Just buy Star Wars or shut the f*** up" bullcrap. I won't even mention the shirtless bad guy with the flame coming out of his butt. Edited January 24, 2009 by danth Quote
Draykov Posted January 24, 2009 Posted January 24, 2009 I suppose I could get an ulcer over the fact that the child's toy I want to buy this summer may not be as cool as the ones I had when I was 8...then again, I could reserve judgment until I see the final product. There's no need to spew venom. To each his own. Quote
SuvieD Posted January 24, 2009 Posted January 24, 2009 Revalation! Squidmen aliens have only one eye. Next in the news, phosphorecent Elvis heads invade Legoville demanding the release of the unproduced 1x3 tile part. Quote
Asuka Posted January 24, 2009 Posted January 24, 2009 It's not about intelligent arguments, it's about common sense. But since you apparently don't have the benefit of that, let me explain the obvious to you.1)SPACE police should be about SPACE. A flying car with a big air intake has nothing to do with space. And -- this is just some more common sense for you -- the flying car has a uncolored car windshield. That might be fine for Star Wars, but traditionally in SPACE Lego sets, canopies are colored. Blue, yellow, green, red, orange, whatever. Plus -- more obvious stuff here -- they typically use spacey canopies and not car windshields. An uncolored car windshield just screams CITY. The pics we´ve seen´re pretty preliminary and things may quite change a bit. No need to construct a drama or to sacrifice kindness. Just let´s wait and see and please, everybody, give good manners (and humor) a chance here. Drop the aggression and relax a bit... Quote
Bricks Posted January 24, 2009 Posted January 24, 2009 The pics we´ve seen´re pretty preliminary and things may quite change a bit. No need to construct a drama or to sacrifice kindness. Just let´s wait and see and please, everybody, give good manners (and humor) a chance here. Drop the aggression and relax a bit... ... Yeah, that's the right adjustment (like every year) But I really look forward to our new theme: Space Police. The first look gives me a good feeling about that. This theme contain two important fact's: old and new. The theme get's his older touch with especially the colours and the newer things, too, like the bad guys had's. So all in all I think this will be a great new series in our LEGO Universe! Greetings 'Bricks' Quote
Algernon Posted January 24, 2009 Posted January 24, 2009 It's not about intelligent arguments, it's about common sense. But since you apparently don't have the benefit of that, let me explain the obvious to you. I don't like your attitude. Nobody in this thread but you has behaved so rudely. There's no reason for this kind of mudslinging, so please calm down. This is, after, not a matter of great importance. 1)SPACE police should be about SPACE. A flying car with a big air intake has nothing to do with space. And -- this is just some more common sense for you -- the flying car has a uncolored car windshield. That might be fine for Star Wars, but traditionally in SPACE Lego sets, canopies are colored. Blue, yellow, green, red, orange, whatever. Plus -- more obvious stuff here -- they typically use spacey canopies and not car windshields. An uncolored car windshield just screams CITY. So... Space Police III isn't spacey because one (read: ONE) of the sets doesn't have a colored windshield? And you're calling him illogical? 2)The flying car and police space ship really clash. They don't look like they belong in the same theme, because the police ship looks spacey and the flying car just looks futuristic. Are you following me? Not exactly rocket science here. Most people want their Lego themes to at least look cohesive. Wow... that's got to be the worst argument against a theme I've ever seen. I suppose you must have hated agents as well? Because the black/orange enemies clashed with the blue/gray Agents? There's nothing wrong with having distinctive opposing factions in the same theme. When I look at those pictures, I don't need someone to tell me which is the good guy and which is the bad guy- I already know. Was that true with Blacktron and Space Police? Not so much, especially in the second wave. I don't think this works against the theme at all. It's just different. 3)It is possible to like Lego and not be a fan of Star Wars. The new movies are garbage and tainted the whole Star Wars experience for me. You act like one of those people who think Star Wars fans must like Star Trek too, I mean it's all just space, right? The whole point of Lego is that you can build your own worlds. Kinda hard to do that when you buy a box full of light sabers and storm troopers. I guess this would occur to you if you, ya know, thought about it for a second. Um... what? So forget the storm troopers and build something else out of the parts from the rest of the set. I hate LEGO Star Wars, but even I know how to make my own stuff from the sets. o_O It sounds to me that you're just hating this theme for the sake of hating it... and you're trolling. I don't know what our policy is against trolls here but nobody appreciates it. Quote
Batbrick Posted January 24, 2009 Posted January 24, 2009 Perhaps that cyclops guy is Squidman. You had me going for a second there! I think people should just settle down and not judge the entire theme based on a few rather blurry pics not detailing the entire set. The fact that these are prelims is an even bigger reason to not judge. Seriously, it was bad enough when we had thousands of kids screaming "This is teh crap1!" in last years Agents prelim photos, and for the most part they turned out great. So did the 08 castle sets. So did the Power Miners. And here we don't even have an ounce of knowledge we had with those sets, we only have a shot of one of the major sets and not a particularly good one. I'd say that's a fairly weak reason to start claiming "none of this takes place in space" or "no coloured windshields on all sets". For now, just be excited we have a new space theme, and get ready to be pleasantly surprised at Toyfair, because we always are. Batbrick Away! Quote
CP5670 Posted January 25, 2009 Posted January 25, 2009 As someone said earlier, we need more pictures at this point. We're starting to run out of things to discuss. It sounds to me that you're just hating this theme for the sake of hating it... and you're trolling. I don't know what our policy is against trolls here but nobody appreciates it. Exactly. I actually agree with some of the things you said, but you need to lay off the insults and confrontational attitude if you want anyone to take you seriously. Quote
Ikki o' Moopyville Posted January 25, 2009 Posted January 25, 2009 I'm prolly outta the loop, but are these new? -Ikk Quote
Algernon Posted January 25, 2009 Posted January 25, 2009 I'm prolly outta the loop, but are these new?-Ikk No, but those pics appear somewhat clearer than the other ones... Quote
Moose Posted January 25, 2009 Posted January 25, 2009 (edited) Im up at college and have no desire to do my homework, and i havent written much on these forums in awhile, so i figured id throw my opinion in here. ill try to do it nicely, and hopefully i wont get berated, unlike some of you: The main reason i dont like these sets is the same reason most of the other detractors dont like them either. Its City, but in the near future. The greatness that was the former Space Police themes (im basing it mostly off SP2 because they were my prime lego years) was that despite the "police" moniker, they werent overtly policy. You knew they were in control and had authority, but it didnt feel like a bunch of lego town (old school) cops took an extended stay on the moon. They felt entirely separate of the town police, with distinct colors to further this idea. In these new sets, the colors remain the same for the space police as for the town police. Granted the pics are prelim, but still. It feels like someone took town vehicles, slapped some rockets and stuff on ad said look it flies in space, so Space Police! ok maybe its not that drastic but you get the idea. And the whole concept of the space car, while extremely well done and good looking, just isnt in the realm of the former space sets. All previous space sets to my knowledge, you could not be "like wow, thats a space car!" and have it look mainly like a city vehicle minus the wheels. the space sets were distinctly space. Here, the distinct and exact qualities that separated lego space from other themes are blatantly absent. The space vehicles reek of city (the baddy car is basically 95% a city car, and the cop has the same color scheme as city police, along with flashing red and blue lights which former SP sets didnt have, and i think it takes away from these new sets) and the concept of the one set we have reeks of agents (particularly the gold heist aspect, which is almost the same as the angent one with the jeep and gold; the characters remind of agents to with their styles and vastly unrealistic characters). Now im not against unrealistic aspects, but we already have characters like that in agents. Sadly, the only positive i have seen with these few sets is the new skeleton-like helmet, but since i dont buy sets strictly for the figures, i may not wind up with one of these cool helmets. In closing, i feel what we have seen thus far lacks an originality and uniqueness - if we wanted what these set pictures are providing, we could pick them up in the agents or city sections. I hope LEGO realizes this and at least adjusts these sets somewhat. It would be a shame to see the good name of Space Police taken in such a different direction. on a separate note, algernon i love ur pic, it reminds me of the good days of UFO which i think had some of the coolest mini fig accessories. the helmets remain some of my favorite ever Edited January 25, 2009 by Moose Quote
mania3 Posted January 25, 2009 Posted January 25, 2009 I'm prolly outta the loop, but are these new?-Ikk Not new, thanks for making me itch with excitement for nothing. :classic: Quote
Algernon Posted January 25, 2009 Posted January 25, 2009 (edited) on a separate note, algernon i love ur pic, it reminds me of the good days of UFO which i think had some of the coolest mini fig accessories. the helmets remain some of my favorite ever *polishes off UFO collection* aaah, my beauties. Moose, I do understand your complaint- and this does feel more like a "future" theme, I don't really disagree with that at all... I just don't mind it. This is an idea LEGO's never tried before... "space cars" are a totally unique direction for Space, and I love seeing something new. While I would still appreciate a more faithful Space theme, I don't think this new concept is at all a negative turn for the Space Police, and frankly I'm content to continue collecting 1990's sets off of Ebay to quench the desire for old Space... Keep something in mind though. The Space Police ship we saw in that ad is anything but a car- the only thing that makes it remind of City is the color scheme. We have a "Galactic Enforcer" on the way, which sounds very reminiscent of the Galactic Mediator, and I think it will satisfy many Space fans. I still love the idea of a Space hotrod, and I will be buying one, but for those of you who want something more faithful, I think you'll still find some love in this theme. Edited January 25, 2009 by Algernon Quote
Moose Posted January 25, 2009 Posted January 25, 2009 The thought of a potentially great galactic enforcer is whats keeping me coming back to this thread, hoping pics of it leak. lego knows how loved the original mediator was, and with a name so similar im sure theyll try to recapture that love. it would be surprising to see them horribly miss the mark on this one Quote
Corvus Posted January 25, 2009 Posted January 25, 2009 To those Classic Space people who aren't so happy: If you don't like these, just go back to your collection. These don't diminish from the beauty of the old theme, so if you don't like these, just don't get them, or bide your time- We still have lots of pics to come, and there may be another Space theme next year. And maybe even the year after that. And come on-TLC is always privy to our concerns and opinions on new themes, and the reason they made this one is because they knew we wanted one so much. So TLC might take a look here, correct what we don't like, and maybe next year could be just what you've been dreaming for. On a more set-related note, I love these little impulse things. The K-9 is very impressive, minus the flicky-fire. The figs are wonderful. I can't wait to see more. Quote
Algernon Posted January 25, 2009 Posted January 25, 2009 And even if you don't like it as a Space theme, what we've seen so far seems very well executed, so perhaps you can appreciate it as a theme all it's own. Quote
mania3 Posted January 25, 2009 Posted January 25, 2009 Also, keep in mind we've "seen" three sets from a line of at least ten announced sets. Two of these we've seen were impulse sets. We've seen nothing. Quote
KDog Posted January 25, 2009 Posted January 25, 2009 (edited) I'm starting to wonder - Would LEGO place prelim shots on a store banner? That seems an odd thing to do, since it wouldn't match the product on the shelves. I know they do that in retailer catalogs, but in store POP? Perhaps the Hyperspeed Pursuit set we've seen is the final. But who knows about the impulse sets... I'm also happy to see someone else who loves UFO. I've heard the theme dissed a lot, and I could never understand why. I think they're some badass sets and it's the only Space theme of which I've been driven to collect every set. I think I'm still missing one or two of the smaller sets, but they're not too hard to find cheaply. Edited January 25, 2009 by KDog Quote
Batbrick Posted January 25, 2009 Posted January 25, 2009 I loved the UFO sets as a kid. I only have one, the medium sized saucer, but boy did I love it, I built it in town at a restaurant! I agree it is a great theme, especially the look of that giant saucer. I'm hoping that instead of two factions, this Space Police will have the criminals as a lot of different races, so we could have Retro Space car, and UFOs and whatnot. An intergalactic police routine if you will. I'm starting to wonder - Would LEGO place prelim shots on a store banner? That seems an odd thing to do, since it wouldn't match the product on the shelves. I know they do that in retailer catalogs, but in store POP? Perhaps the Hyperspeed Pursuit set we've seen is the final. But who knows about the impulse sets... This is a good point actually, I'm betting the impulses are prelim though, the Police uniform doesn't look quite right, I think it is Zam Wessel's (or whatever that purple starwars prequel chick's ma,e was, I never liked the prequels) torso. I think I'm still missing one or two of the smaller sets, but they're not too hard to find cheaply. Then what are you doing? Hurry up and buy them! Batbrick Away! Quote
Algernon Posted January 25, 2009 Posted January 25, 2009 You boys are lucky; I'm working on a UFO theme review. I picked up some UFO sets off of Ebay (my original collection is destroyed) and I remembered how awesome they are. I just love the alien minifigs; some of the best minifigs we've ever gotten out of Space. The Warp Wing Fighter is absolutely the best set out of UFO, but I do understand the nostalgia of the Cyber Saucer, since I too adored that set as a kid- I was also rather obsessed with the UFO phenomenon in general at the time, so it suited me perfectly that LEGO would release a theme that revolved around the idea. I also confess a sympathy towards Insectoids... yeah it was a weird theme but I did really enjoy it. Quote
Zarkan Posted January 25, 2009 Posted January 25, 2009 You boys are lucky; I'm working on a UFO theme review. I picked up some UFO sets off of Ebay (my original collection is destroyed) and I remembered how awesome they are. I just love the alien minifigs; some of the best minifigs we've ever gotten out of Space. The Warp Wing Fighter is absolutely the best set out of UFO, but I do understand the nostalgia of the Cyber Saucer, since I too adored that set as a kid- I was also rather obsessed with the UFO phenomenon in general at the time, so it suited me perfectly that LEGO would release a theme that revolved around the idea. I also confess a sympathy towards Insectoids... yeah it was a weird theme but I did really enjoy it. I honestly thought that Insectoids was far more interesting as a theme than UFO ever was. That was mainly because while many of the UFO sets looked very similar to each other, the Insectoid kits had very unique and different designs. I'd rather have a bunch of bug inspired vehicles and ships than a lot of saucer shaped spaceships that all use the same huge curved saucer plates as their main bulk. I agree that the figures of UFO were awesome, however. But I think I like the Insectoid figures just as much. Quote
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