Lasse D Posted December 5, 2008 Author Posted December 5, 2008 (...)If LEGO produced this for under 300 dollars, I would buy it. There are two huge reasons for LEGO never to release anything like this for less than $300: It would cost way more than $300 (see previous posts), and it is too small to carry such a price tag. Remember it's only about twice as big as mission 6: I don't know about bringing Model Team back. I'm personally only interested in the classic trucks like 5580, 5590 and 5591, whereas Model Team covers quite a lot of model (see Button's poll) Quote
Skelotic Posted December 5, 2008 Posted December 5, 2008 Yes, but you know LEGO they would simplify it to make it cheaper. It wouldn't have the Coke logo for royalties and would also use a custom remote instead of the NXT brick. Quote
Siegfried Posted December 6, 2008 Posted December 6, 2008 Stunning. I wish I had time to say how much I like this... but I don't. I have given you frontpage love though! Quote
Erdbeereis Posted December 6, 2008 Posted December 6, 2008 That is absolutely amazing. Words can't describe how cool all of the different functions are, and it looks stunning as well. Great presentation to boot. Fantastic work Lasse D! Quote
5150 Lego Posted December 6, 2008 Posted December 6, 2008 This is probbly one of the best mocs i've ever scene. The detail,as well as functions are incredable! Very well done. All your trucks have always had a leel of detail that has been above and beyond the previous one. I'm using your models as insperation for mynext project. Its going to be a truck and trailera bit larger than your model team truck. Big enough for the 1:17 scale Ferrari cars lego realsed last year. Again, great job. I'm curious to see how you'll top this one! Quote
BillytheKid Posted December 6, 2008 Posted December 6, 2008 Very nice and a fantasic moc what is build . Quote
Cardinal Brick Posted December 6, 2008 Posted December 6, 2008 I'm not sure I can add much that hasn't been said it's an amazing model and thanks for presenting it to us so well. Quote
Lasse D Posted December 6, 2008 Author Posted December 6, 2008 Yes, but you know LEGO they would simplify it to make it cheaper. It wouldn't have the Coke logo for royalties and would also use a custom remote instead of the NXT brick. True. They might even replace the graphics with a huge "Octan" sticker covering multiple valuable pieces Actually. I did cheat and use the normal PF-remote for most of the video - it is easier to handle when you use the other hand to hold a camera. This is probbly one of the best mocs i've ever scene. The detail,as well as functions are incredable! Very well done. All your trucks have always had a leel of detail that has been above and beyond the previous one. I'm using your models as insperation for mynext project. Its going to be a truck and trailera bit larger than your model team truck. Big enough for the 1:17 scale Ferrari cars lego realsed last year. Again, great job. I'm curious to see how you'll top this one! You have spiked my curiosity. A Scuderia Ferrari hauler, perhaps? Looking forward to that trailer of yours. And topping this one? I have a plan to introduce my service station to Power Functions. It will be a challenge to get it done before February because repeating testing and rebuilding takes a lot of time, but I will give it a try. Quote
Front Posted December 6, 2008 Posted December 6, 2008 Just saw the video, pictures and the descriptions. Lasse, you are certainly a dedicated Lego-build expert. I wonder if I could see this masterpiece at a future event in Denmark, maybe taking some pictures of it. Front Quote
legotrainfan Posted December 6, 2008 Posted December 6, 2008 Wow, I'm struck dumb! What a beautiful truck! An amazing moc! Absolutely brilliant! Quote
5150 Lego Posted December 6, 2008 Posted December 6, 2008 You have spiked my curiosity. A Scuderia Ferrari hauler, perhaps? Looking forward to that trailer of yours. And topping this one? I have a plan to introduce my service station to Power Functions. It will be a challenge to get it done before February because repeating testing and rebuilding takes a lot of time, but I will give it a try. NOt a Scuderia hauler, but somthing more universal, as eventully i plan to build other race inspired cars. Design stats right after Christmass, then its off to brick link for the parts! I look forward to your service station motorized. That will be one big feat! Quote
user Posted December 7, 2008 Posted December 7, 2008 One word: WOW! I am speechless! This is without doubt the best Lego truck I could ever even imagine! It's incredible how many authentic functions it has and how well these work! Making it a Coca Cola Christmas Truck was an excellent choice! Those are my favorite kind of trucks! The mosaics are great! I just wish I could see how it looks with the GITD parts glowing. Could you please try to make a pic or video of that and post it? That would be most appreciated! Btw, which set(s) are those 1x1 round GITD plates from? I don't have much else to say; I think everything has been mentioned already by others. In conclusion: Beautiful, marvelous, amazing work! Two thumbs up! :thumbup: Keep it up! PS: Sigh... Looking at this MOC, I can already hear Melanie Thornton's " " in my head! What a beautiful commercial! I totally agree! but what is a gitd plate? Quote
Dark Brickz Posted December 7, 2008 Posted December 7, 2008 i just gotta say thats amazin... Great job Quote
shimon Posted December 7, 2008 Posted December 7, 2008 wow!! very amazing job!! i have no words .. one thing i dont understand : about the turntable mechanizm and the fiber optics how does it change the functions ? Quote
Patriot720 Posted December 7, 2008 Posted December 7, 2008 Wow, this is amazing! I absolutely love it! This is the best MOC I've ever seen! So many function,so great! I'm speechless! Quote
Lasse D Posted December 8, 2008 Author Posted December 8, 2008 (edited) I wonder if I could see this masterpiece at a future event in Denmark, maybe taking some pictures of it. I am supposed to get an answer today about whether I may bring it to LEGO World. If not, I will bring it to Klodsfest (location and time to be announced) Not a Scuderia hauler, but somthing more universal, as eventully i plan to build other race inspired cars. Design stats right after Christmass, then its off to brick link for the parts! I look forward to your service station motorized. That will be one big feat! With a weight almost twice of this truck, it will not be driven by PF, but the functions within it will. I totally agree! but what is a gitd plate? Glow In The Dark is a LEGO color. All those small pieces that appear white (except those in the logos) are actually GITD, which gives a great effect when you turn off the lights. one thing i dont understand : about the turntable mechanizm and the fiber optics how does it change the functions ? It is best seen in this picture: The motor in the middle goes straight through the center of the turntable and powers the cog on the edge, while the other motor turns the turntable. Edit: I'm in. See you at LEGO World Copenhagen 2009! Edited December 9, 2008 by Lasse D Quote
Brickthus Posted December 31, 2008 Posted December 31, 2008 ...The motor in the middle goes straight through the center of the turntable and powers the cog on the edge, while the other motor turns the turntable. I like the gearbox. It fits well in the space inside the trailer and the fibre optic parts give good indication of the function selected. Another way of doing this is like the multi-function gearbox I made for my crane. I didn't have room for a turntable to select the gears, so I used a worm drive to select between the gear functions, which are two hook cables, jib lift and turntable. Crane Gears Worm Gear Selection If you stop the selection in the right place you can use two functions at once, so I ordered the functions so that I could use the most useful combinations. I totally dig your aim to combine Technic functions and Model Team models. This truck was my first attempt about 12 years ago: Truck Folder It has 4-wheel steering, motor drive from 71427 or 43362 gearmotor, differential, locking 5th wheel for a trailer (it accepts a set-8872-style trailer pin) and automatic centre-lift axle that will descend when a trailer puts its weight on the 5th wheel. The cab is a sleeper with opening doors but I didn't do the internal details at the time. Some of the Technic parts are not as well hidden as in your truck and I confess I have neglected to build further along these lines (apart from trains with Technic functions). I kept it as a stake in the ground in this genre! I really think combined Technic / Model Team sets would be a more satisfying build than either theme on its own. Models should look good (with solid sides) and it work real. Mark Quote
Lasse D Posted January 5, 2009 Author Posted January 5, 2009 I'm glad to see others experimenting with Technic inside Model Team in this scale. Another way of doing this is like the multi-function gearbox I made for my crane. I didn't have room for a turntable to select the gears, so I used a worm drive to select between the gear functions, which are two hook cables, jib lift and turntable.Crane Gears Worm Gear Selection If you stop the selection in the right place you can use two functions at once, so I ordered the functions so that I could use the most useful combinations. This reminds me about how I'm going to make the mechanics for the car wash in my next truck. LEGO had something similar in the old red super car with its gearbox. It is a really nice crane you have. Do you have a video of it as well? This truck was my first attempt about 12 years ago: Truck Folder It has 4-wheel steering, motor drive from 71427 or 43362 gearmotor, differential, locking 5th wheel for a trailer (it accepts a set-8872-style trailer pin) and automatic centre-lift axle that will descend when a trailer puts its weight on the 5th wheel. Now that is what I'm talking about: a lot of Technic compressed into a (relatively) small space. I can't quite see how the fifth wheel locks, but I used 8872 (forklift transporter) as inspiration for my previous coupling system, and it worked quite well. If only there were more people building trucks in this scale Quote
CP5670 Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 I like the gearbox. It fits well in the space inside the trailer and the fibre optic parts give good indication of the function selected.Another way of doing this is like the multi-function gearbox I made for my crane. I didn't have room for a turntable to select the gears, so I used a worm drive to select between the gear functions, which are two hook cables, jib lift and turntable. Crane Gears Worm Gear Selection If you stop the selection in the right place you can use two functions at once, so I ordered the functions so that I could use the most useful combinations. This looks similar to the worm gear system used in the 8082 forklift. That set actually had multiple worms connected to the motor and they would lock into the functions in different combinations depending on the motor platform's position. Some other methods for splitting up geartrains include the transmission rings (the most common way, but hard to control with a motor), locking differentials, and the friction-based catch seen in the 8094 crane (only works in one direction, but surprisingly smooth). Quote
Brickthus Posted January 9, 2009 Posted January 9, 2009 It is a really nice crane you have. Do you have a video of it as well?Now that is what I'm talking about: a lot of Technic compressed into a (relatively) small space. I can't quite see how the fifth wheel locks, but I used 8872 (forklift transporter) as inspiration for my previous coupling system, and it worked quite well. If only there were more people building trucks in this scale No video of the crane yet. I plan to upgrade it (I was waiting for yellow parts and have not had time since I received them. That will make the crane complete (with less black and maybe a few more greeblies as it's a scale model of a Cowans Sheldon 76T crane). Maybe a video after that. Meanwhile I have A Sun, GBC and parts of a roller coaster on my YouTube Channel. The worm gearbox could be extended to use up to 32M axles, though it would probably bend a bit! gears for output functions could drive nearly 30 functions or more combinations of fewer functions if several cogs for each function were positioned in adjacent slots along a few axles. It is more of a practical drive gearbox than a gearbox that attempts to emulate one in a real machine. I hadn't considered what the actual scale of the truck is. I remember I used to do chassises about 28-wide with 82mm wheels (like 1:13 scale), so 14-wide is about 1:26? A bit smaller than the 1:20 Miniland scale? The 5th wheel locks by the lever moving up over top dead centre, preventing trailer drag load from opening the latch. CP5670> Which transmission rings did you mean? The gearbox parts with flanges that fit over axle extenders? Mark Quote
SkyOtic Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 I'm... speechless. That truck is so amazing ! this is the ultimate proof that you can do anything with lego Quote
CP5670 Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 CP5670> Which transmission rings did you mean? The gearbox parts with flanges that fit over axle extenders? Yeah. They were originally designed to switch between gear ratios in a transmission box, but were later used to split up geartrains, as done in the Space Shuttle and other sets. Quote
Lasse D Posted January 11, 2009 Author Posted January 11, 2009 The worm gearbox could be extended to use up to 32M axles, though it would probably bend a bit! gears for output functions could drive nearly 30 functions or more combinations of fewer functions if several cogs for each function were positioned in adjacent slots along a few axles. It is more of a practical drive gearbox than a gearbox that attempts to emulate one in a real machine. Here it will differ considerably from the one I will use. It will also have a 32L cross axle, but with only a single cog that moves along and engages different mechanism (at most 10). Another 32L axle will move a sled with the cog... I think it's easier to explain by showing it once finished I hadn't considered what the actual scale of the truck is. I remember I used to do chassises about 28-wide with 82mm wheels (like 1:13 scale), so 14-wide is about 1:26? A bit smaller than the 1:20 Miniland scale? With the scale I simply meant about 14 studs wide instead of the more conventional 1:13 that many truck builders go for (it gives great realism, but the models are often too heavy for a motor to drive) With the cab of a typical truck (Scania R-series) being 243cm wide, and a brick width of 0.8cm, we get the following scales: 12 wide: 243/(12*0.8) => 1:25 14 wide: 243/(14*0.8) => 1:22 - almost Miniland size! The 5th wheel locks by the lever moving up over top dead centre, preventing trailer drag load from opening the latch. OK. So the lever can stop and lock before the position shown in this picture? Now I think I get it, soon... Quote
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