Shadows Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 We're spinning in circles and not really getting anywhere. Or maybe that's my head after all this whiskey. Seriously though, we vote privately, the ladies have their club, we've already seen one loyalist killed (though I must admit, at the end of the day, I would have probably voted for Pedro myself, just because he was creating confusion with no obvious purpose). I can't see anything in the information we have so far that points at anyone specific and the chatting isn't making it any clearer. No one is really saying anything except chit chat and speculation about possible rules to this game ... of life. Remember, we've already seen that the voting is going to be very different from the usual, so I think we can expect a lot of things to be unusual and should try to avoid planning our moves based on typical game ... of life ... behaviour. That said, I have no idea who to vote for, but I should clarify something in relation to the fronts. We don't pay you. At least I don't, I can't really say what the others do. You use me to legitimize your operation, laundering money and for other purposes that I might not specify right now, but I can assure you, it's important to the family. I need you to stay in business, or I don't stay in business, plus I consider the Baritones the family I never had growing up. I hope the other fronts feel the same. I'm just voicing my thoughts here, but if Adalaide was a Rat, she would know Pedro was loyal and he gave her the perfect opportunity to kill him. Although, that's just a though, I'm not going to condemn someone over an idea. That's a scary thought, but then again, Iris discovered that the Darlene chick was going around killing people and she was supposed to be a goody two shoes. Nah, I don't want to think that way, there's no proof. If it keeps happening, though...
Inertia Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 We don't pay you. At least I don't, I can't really say what the others do.You use me to legitimize your operation, laundering money and for other purposes that I might not specify right now, but I can assure you, it's important to the family. I need you to stay in business, or I don't stay in business, plus I consider the Baritones the family I never had growing up. I hope the other fronts feel the same. I realize that you don't pay us as a member of the Fronts, but we certainly pay you and keep you in Business like you say. But 1 of you has most likely been bribed or Blackmailed into becoming a Rat, that's a piece of evidence that we know so far. All in all, I'd say that the Rats know would try to communicate with each other, therefore we should scrutinize suspects. But NO one gets killed wrongly... Except for Pedro.
Dragonator Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 But 1 of you has most likely been bribed or Blackmailed into becoming a Rat, that's a piece of evidence that we know so far. Not quite true, that is something you suspect, however we do not actually have any solid prove. There is a difference between what you suspect is likely and what is hard evidence.
Shadows Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 I realize that you don't pay us as a member of the Fronts, but we certainly pay you and keep you in Business like you say. I just wanted to make sure no one misunderstood our purpose and thought we were paying protection or something, since that would give us a motive. I don't know what the other fronts do, specifically, but I know that my role in the family business is an important one that I take very seriously. But 1 of you has most likely been bribed or Blackmailed into becoming a Rat, that's a piece of evidence that we know so far. It's certainly possible. We can also assume that some blood relatives and possibly their partners have as well. It's all very upsetting to think about. It's sad to see the rats trying to tear apart a family, but at least we know it's happening and can try to stop them. All in all, I'd say that the Rats know would try to communicate with each other, therefore we should scrutinize suspects. Are they allowed? I certainly hope they wouldn't be, that would definitely upset the balance of things. But NO one gets killed wrongly... Except for Pedro. He was asking for it. Miss A. gave it to him, but good.
Inertia Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 Not quite true, that is something you suspect, however we do not actually have any solid prove. There is a difference between what you suspect is likely and what is hard evidence. Quite. I should have made myself clearer, the very thoughts of suspects and rats is making my head spin... No, wait. That's the Alcohol. I just wanted to make sure no one misunderstood our purpose and thought we were paying protection or something, since that would give us a motive. I don't know what the other fronts do, specifically, but I know that my role in the family business is an important one that I take very seriously.It's certainly possible. We can also assume that some blood relatives and possibly their partners have as well. It's all very upsetting to think about. It's sad to see the rats trying to tear apart a family, but at least we know it's happening and can try to stop them. Are they allowed? I certainly hope they wouldn't be, that would definitely upset the balance of things. He was asking for it. Miss A. gave it to him, but good. Certainly, I understand that you have a very good track record, and there are certainly some blood relatives that would be Rats. At the moment we just don't have any evidence apart from our personal suspicions. I certainly hope that we can get this over with and teach the FBI not to mess with us. I certainly don't want to live in fear of my own family for the Rest of my life. I wouldn't think the Rats are allowed to speak to each other, maybe that's something to go on? Say, we should go down to Pedro's warehouse and pick up the Crates of Whiskey later, we're nearly dry.
Trexxen Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 I just wanted to make sure no one misunderstood our purpose and thought we were paying protection or something, since that would give us a motive. I don't know what the other fronts do, specifically, but I know that my role in the family business is an important one that I take very seriously. Don't worry, I'm not pointing at you in particular. It's just that, and I'm sure you - as a respected member of our family, even if at the lower level - can understand where I'm coming from with this. It's just that the three of you are, unfortunately enough, not only the smallest group (minimizing risks), but also the least "attached" group, if you know what I'm saying. I don't want to vote any of you off, honestly, but without any other leads it's going to have to be one of the fronts first - a higher chance of successfully finding a rat, coupled with relative newcomers to the family, and I'm sure you can see why all evidence points to one of you... But still, maybe that's what we're supposed to think. Maybe none of you are rats and it's the others we should worry about. But probability, in this case, solves all. We have at the very least a 1 in 20 chance of hitting one, and most likely at least a 1 in 3 and at most a 1 in 5 - I doubt they'd send a group of three or fewer into us, but to be honest I just don't know what to think anymore. Certainly, only sending one rat would create many mafia casualties before the one was found unless evidence pointed to that person, but that's not really a sane idea - it's like a witch hunt with no real witches! *sigh* I'm confused and miserable, at this point - I should be happy, we've finally taken over Moonlight...but I'm not. I'm tired of the cops here, I want to kill them all...if only I knew who they were. So if I act rashly, please forgive me - I want this over and done so that we - our family, our brothers - can go back to the life we once had, on top of the world. ~Trexxisanti
Admiral Blockbeard Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 Ahh, thank Iris. Sanity and reasoning has been restored to the family, I feel we are one step closer to getting these rats. What we know for sure is we should not plunge back into that chaos again and lose more family members. You mentioned one rat, now that would be devilish. I watched a Movie called the Departed the other day, the whole time you think there is one rat, but pop, up came another one, the rat had no idea each other existed until they detected each other, lets hoope it is the same here and they don't know each other. Problem with rats is they hide in holes at night, then nibble on your food during the night. Our rats are no different, they would be hiding in their holes during the day and nibbling at us at night. This first condemnation will be important to how this all goes, a good pick will have them on the back foot, a bad pick and all of the sudden we are left a little open. Some people have already voted, and can not retract that vote. What if now we discover something and can not make a majority? This is why it is so important to be careful. One thing we have not thought about is the FBI might say they voted for someone but truly put down a different name. Now as we are speaking of motive, I find it interesting boarder line suspicious that the wives are sooo lovey dovey. I bet one was unfaithful and has been black mailed by the FBI, along with the git she did it with. Look at how we already voiced a "thats not right - get out of the family" mentality on the subject. that is all for now, I shall reflect on this more.
Shadows Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 Let's look at what we know for certain. Iris is back, having escaped death row, to lend us a hand (or 3). Pedro was loyal, but an ill-mannered jerk. Still... he wasn't a witch was loyal. He did a lot of rambling and vague pointing in his short life. It looked bad, but maybe he wasn't just being a jerk, maybe he knew something? He certainly seemed to think he did. I think we might want to take a closer look at what he said and see if we can make any sense out of it.
Admiral Blockbeard Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 (edited) I believe he was saying nothing more than what was on the top of his mind. Considering before we had these meeting he was already conducting this behavior I have looked up and down what he said nothing substantial there only aimless allegations. Crap edit sorry, i mean rewind... I added the part after the emotion Edited January 10, 2009 by Cpt. Pegleg Blockbeard
Wouwie Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 Wow...Alot happend while I was taking a nap! Could someone give me a coffe and something with as much alcohol in it as possible? Then I can think better!
Shadows Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 Wow...Alot happend while I was taking a nap! Could someone give me a coffe and something with as much alcohol in it as possible? Then I can think better! *pours an espresso into half a bottle of whiskey and hands it to Wynona* Cheers!
Bob Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 Hey! What did I ever do to arouse suspicion? I even provided free alcohol to!
Jlblue Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 I 'spose we can discuss who we voted for, but I don't know if I will. Seems to me as though everyone's going to be getting angry at me if I vote for 'em and I'd personally rather prevent it from being too personal. It'd be a lot easier on me if I didn't have to endure all this arguing between brothers and sisters, at least not just yet, when there's really nothing to be suspicious of. Plus it prevents the whole "you voted for me, I vote for you" sentiment, which never really helps anything. Later on I might be more inclined to make my decisions public if there's more evidence or reason to do so. Ya hear me? All righty, then. Back to drinking.
WhiteFang Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 I couldn't agreed less that the Fronts, should be checked, to make sure they are really "dirty enough" to be posing for a clean front. I walked out for awhile, and this discussion took it to 10 folds. With these booze and talking, we sure getting this atmosphere right.
Jlblue Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 Couldn't agree less? That just a slip of the tongue or are you trying to say that you don't think the fronts are at all suspicious? Not sure I understand what you're saying there, Willie.
Inertia Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 Hey! What did I ever do to arouse suspicion?I even provided free alcohol to! Well... Nothing, I think it comes to some people, although hasty decisions will be the end of us if that's our course of action... The Whiskey came through Pedro's warehouse, and he brought the Cola too. But yes, you always bring in the beer, which is free. I 'spose we can discuss who we voted for, but I don't know if I will. Seems to me as though everyone's going to be getting angry at me if I vote for 'em and I'd personally rather prevent it from being too personal. It'd be a lot easier on me if I didn't have to endure all this arguing between brothers and sisters, at least not just yet, when there's really nothing to be suspicious of. Plus it prevents the whole "you voted for me, I vote for you" sentiment, which never really helps anything. Later on I might be more inclined to make my decisions public if there's more evidence or reason to do so. Ya hear me? All righty, then. Back to drinking. You're right Johnny, but we need to at least state suspicions and other thoughts, otherwise we're going to get nowhere. The 'You voted for me, I vote for you' sentiment is bound to come up, and I'm pretty sure we'll start to see threats soon enough.... I couldn't agreed less that the Fronts, should be checked, to make sure they are really "dirty enough" to be posing for a clean front. I walked out for awhile, and this discussion took it to 10 folds. With these booze and talking, we sure getting this atmosphere right. That we are... All we need now is some good ol' Ribs and steak for dinner, I can't wait! I see you agree with my earlier sentiments, unfortunately, the Fronts are the most likely to come under FBI scrutiny. Say... Does anyone have a watch? It seems I've lost track of the time with all this lovely alcohol around!
WhiteFang Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 Couldn't agree less? That just a slip of the tongue or are you trying to say that you don't think the fronts are at all suspicious? Not sure I understand what you're saying there, Willie. I meant we should check out the Fronts for a start. I am not pointing fingers. Knowing the fact that the Fronts work for the Baritones, they could be easily led by others since their primary objective is to launder our money. This is one area which we could look at.
Jlblue Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 Ah. That makes sense, then. In that case I agree.
Adam Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 Ah. That makes sense, then. In that case I agree. I agreeeeee tooooo, y'all! By the waaayyyy, it would seem that my new name is adalaide, not Adalaide.
Zepher Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 My, under the drink I seem to have refered to you as Adeline... oh dear. As for the Fronts, I think I was the first to bring up tat hey should be the first investigated, and I stick to it. That doesn't solve our who to vote for porblem though. So who is it? Boyd? Is he the only one with a vote against him so far? As for Pedro, he was either insane, or, there was something that was wrong with him, and he was trying to give us information. I find the first option more likely, but I may simply don't like him becuase of his views on women, which could be clouding my judgement of him.
Quarryman Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 I don't think I've seen my husband around neither. Do you think they have a club that's.. a husband version of ours? I'm sorry my dear, I've been very busy, and I'm afraid I will be quite busy for the rest of the day too.
WhiteFang Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 Ignore that silly Pedro, he was walking on thin wire, trying to sow discord among us... For the very first day, that is not a healthy image which he is potraying. Whatever the case, he is history and I don't seemed to find any concerte clues or links to his words... Oh, Adalaide, for a lady like you to wield a gun in broad daylight, that is one wild cat.
Zepher Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 (edited) I'm simply confused as to why a man whould insult this family and try to get himself killed if he was on our side! MEN! *Throws arms in air* What silly creatures! I'm afraid we shall never understand them! Edited January 10, 2009 by Zepher
Lego12 Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 Hello everyone! *yawns* Can I get some black coffee? Thanks. I agreeeeee tooooo, y'all! By the waaayyyy, it would seem that my new name is adalaide, not Adalaide. What happened to your name adalaide? Why is it lowercased?
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