One thing I don't think has been pointed out is that Tony and Adelaide were married, and things happened to both of them last night. I'm thinking that isn't just a coincidence.

Wasn't coincidental? I don't see why anybody would want to harm two people simultaneously just because of their marriage. The only thing that will come of that connection is my prayers going out to Adelaide tonight not just for a speedy recovery, but for her beloved Tony as well. I 'spose if you can elaborate 'n come up with a situation where that would make sense, I'd be willing to hear more. For right now I don't really see the motive for targeting those two. Unless it were a loner who has personal interests, but even that doesn't make too much sense considering that two different abilities were utilized in one night, and possibly by different sides. Unless the person who killed Tone was a vigilante who guessed wrong, his killer would presumably be an informant and the torturer would be one of Iris' special "roles" or whatever she calls them. Just a particularly brutal... loyal... guy.

I think its safe to assume that Boyd was killed by the hitman or whoever deals with who we have voted for. However we must think about Tony, because it could either be a bad guess by a vigilante or one of the rats got him. Nonetheless, its an unfortunate loss, but we at least got a rat at this early stage.

There are two other things that catch my eye right now. Zabrina was late, and unless I've gone deaf she didn't explain why she was late. Could she be one of the killers at night? And it does seem that Adelaide was tortured, poor girl, but so far no one has come out to say she is guilty so I assume its safe to not call her loyal to the Mafia. Course as the day goes on that might change.

Oh yes, what about the names of the men she called? Not all of them were from the same group, so they might have some importance. I don't think there was much to Iris calling us, since it was a very general statement.

I think its safe to assume that Boyd was killed by the hitman or whoever deals with who we have voted for. However we must think about Tony, because it could either be a bad guess by a vigilante or one of the rats got him. Nonetheless, its an unfortunate loss, but we at least got a rat at this early stage.

I'd have to say that it was a vigilante for the Mafia - Iris told us all that there weren't enough votes to do anything, and besides that, I just have...a feeling.

~Trexxisanti

Yes, I too find Zabrina's explanation for being late suspicious. When you're late, it usually means you've been up to something that night, and since she didn't admit to doing anything, I assume that this night action isn't a good one.

I do wonder why anyone would want Tony dead though. He didn't anger anyone yesterday nor did he seem to have any information. He didn't say or do anything suspicious either, which would suggest that it wasn't a vigilante but a rat who killed him (the other giveaway was the way the attacker's gun went 'ratatatat' ).

So has any body got any new information from the night?

Regards, Cpt. PB

Well, this has certainly been a day of revelations and mixed news. I feel much more secure about our future now.

I think that's enough said for present.

One thing I don't think has been pointed out is that Tony and Adelaide were married, and things happened to both of them last night. I'm thinking that isn't just a coincidence.

This is quite an observation. I, like others, can't imagine why Tony was killed other than the rats trying to get rid of us. There is definitely an investigator since Adelaide was tortured. There also seem to be some other night actions.

So has any body got any new information from the night?

Regards, Cpt. PB

It would seem likely that someone else might have more information from the night. Today would be a good day to start looking at possible leads. If we don't start looking for the rats more intensively, other members of our family might be killed. I would hate to see that happen. Leann, you seem to have good instincts.

This is quite an observation. I, like others, can't imagine why Tony was killed other than the rats trying to get rid of us. There is definitely an investigator since Adelaide was tortured. There also seem to be some other night actions.

It would seem likely that someone else might have more information from the night. Today would be a good day to start looking at possible leads. If we don't start looking for the rats more intensively, other members of our family might be killed. I would hate to see that happen. Leann, you seem to have good instincts.

Its LeAnn, and yes, yes I do.

Those who are not happy with my explanation do not have to be. However, if I was doing something bad, wouldn't I have been more thoughtful, and given a better explanation. Trexxi can back me up here... we had a wonderful night.

I think that the person who tortured Adelaide is on the side of good, those who do torture are usaully, in life in genreal... as for the killers, one is certainly on our side. No Rat would kill another rat, seeing as they all know eachother.

The second killer could be a mistake, or an evil killer... or, in this case, a good killer? A rat. Either option is over.

Well, since people don't seem to trust me, and people seem to trust LeAnn... what do you think of me LeAnn? Mafia loyalist? Rat? Respectable member of DESPrite? Oh, and Iris will be attending this meeting, how wonderful! Shall we hold this meeting out in the open, just for convience sake? I hope so! Let the men wonder at what we're saying.

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I can't go to the DESPrite meeting.....its Inertia's birthday....... To tell you the truth, I am suspicious of you, Zabrina.....

Well, let's go Silvio!

LeAnn Have all these years as wives in the mafia meant nothing to you? Why betray me now? DESPrite forever? no? That hurt LeAnn, dearie, and I'm not going to lie. The surprise of it... just...

Look. Can't we all just follow our own affairs. Why was I the only one late. There was clearly three people up and about last night. Why would I be singled out? I'm not claiming to be one, but isn't it fishy that only Adelaide and I were late?

And, dears, what about the fact that even those who were up weren't all on the other side? I think two out of the three were on our side.

I advise whoever is on our side to hide themselves. If you become known, then you will certainly be killed by the rats the next day.

Trexxi? Dearie? Stand up for me? Your own wife? What about you Adelaide! We;ve known eachother for a while. Have I every done anything wrong?

I'm loyal to the Mafia. If you don't believe me then deal with my husband.

Oh, and one final request. Please, whatever you do, please, even if I'm killed, please don't kick me out of DESPrite. I'm the only one who knows why we have the first four letter's capitalized! I came up with the name Though Adelaide is in charge, I'd call myself important. DESPrite is my life! (Other then you Trexi, of course )

I am very sure, Iris has assigned us a hidden investigator whom is a loyalist to checked out others' alignment. In this case, the investigator is not aware each other true identity and commintment. For those smelly rats, I am sure they knew each other's identity and collude with each other in the midst of the night. One thing for certain, that investigator won't be appearing so soon, as he or she will be likely to be the next target for the killer whom may belong to the loyalists or the rats.

What other clues do we have on hand?

LeAnn Have all these years as wives in the mafia meant nothing to you? Why betray me now? DESPrite forever? no? That hurt LeAnn, dearie, and I'm not going to lie. The surprise of it... just...

Look. Can't we all just follow our own affairs. Why was I the only one late. There was clearly three people up and about last night. Why would I be singled out? I'm not claiming to be one, but isn't it fishy that only Adelaide and I were late?

And, dears, what about the fact that even those who were up weren't all on the other side? I think two out of the three were on our side.

I advise whoever is on our side to hide themselves. If you become known, then you will certainly be killed by the rats the next day.

Trexxi? Dearie? Stand up for me? Your own wife? What about you Adelaide! We;ve known eachother for a while. Have I every done anything wrong?

I'm loyal to the Mafia. If you don't believe me then deal with my husband.

Oh, and one final request. Please, whatever you do, please, even if I'm killed, please don't kick me out of DESPrite. I'm the only one who knows why we have the first four letter's capitalized! I came up with the name Though Adelaide is in charge, I'd call myself important. DESPrite is my life! (Other then you Trexi, of course )

I'm sorry about suspecting you, but you aren't the one who was injured. Its quite obvious that Adelaide was tortured, or perhaps someone tried to assassinate her, but I think that is unlikely. If you do actually have an important role, I hope you say so soon. You can't calculate how many votes you have, to avoid your execution.

Anyways, I've come to think that Tony was killed by a rat. There was nothing really suspicious about him, in my opinion. So they probably just killed him to kill off some people.

Ah yes, I'm a little confused about what you mean about people hiding themselves if they are on our side. The rats know who's on their side, so they can kill loyalists as they please without fear. Oh, and DESPrite forever!

I'm sorry Zabrina honey, I've been out - but yes, we had a wonderful night last night. I could hardly bring myself to sleep... I'm entirely certain that Zabrina hasn't been up to anything, I'd know about it if she was.

LeAnn, I wouldn't worry about Zabrina so much...I keep a close eye on her at night, I love to watch her sleep

I wonder - has Boyd's killer remained in the shadows because he doesn't want anyone to know his identity, or because he didn't intend to kill Boyd...I'm fairly certain it's the former, but still... Assuming the rats all know eachother, which is usually how it goes in these games (of life), it'd have to be someone working for the Mafia; this is certain. So then the question is, who among us killed Tony? And which one of us (or ones of us) can kill? I'm pretty sure I know one, but I'm not telling...though I do like to drop hints sometimes...

~Trexxisanti

Those who are not happy with my explanation do not have to be. However, if I was doing something bad, wouldn't I have been more thoughtful, and given a better explanation. Trexxi can back me up here... we had a wonderful night.

I'm sorry Zabrina honey, I've been out - but yes, we had a wonderful night last night. I could hardly bring myself to sleep... I'm entirely certain that Zabrina hasn't been up to anything, I'd know about it if she was.

You two could just be covering for each other, posing as a couple, when really you are a couple of FBI informants.

I'm pretty sure I know one, but I'm not telling...though I do like to drop hints sometimes...

~Trexxisanti

Care to say more? Oh, and that wasn't a question .

I am very sure, Iris has assigned us a hidden investigator whom is a loyalist to checked out others' alignment.

Oh, very good point! I did not think of that. There could be a vigilante who wanted to make sure of Adelaide's loyalties, and he beat it out of her.

I don't see why anybody would want to harm two people simultaneously just because of their marriage.

True, it could very well have just been a coincidence. Though I was thinking more along the lines of someone targeted Adelaide and hit Tony instead, or something like that.

Ah yes, I'm a little confused about what you mean about people hiding themselves if they are on our side. The rats know who's on their side, so they can kill loyalists as they please without fear. Oh, and DESPrite forever!

But my dear, the rats do not know which loyalists have the power to do things at night, so therefore it's good advice to tell them to stay hidden as long as they can.

But my dear, the rats do not know which loyalists have the power to do things at night, so therefore it's good advice to tell them to stay hidden as long as they can.

Despite of the idiotic rats not knowing the loyalists' night abilties, but don't you think that they could narrow down of the possible actions which could be gained in the game of life, since these rats knew each other, and I am not surprised that they knew each others' abilities as well. It's a matter of deducing from trial and errors... However, we don't have many loyal lives to let them try out on us, before more of us face the crypt....

Not sure how I missed this post earlier, but it's never to late to touch on important concepts.

However we must think about Tony, because it could either be a bad guess by a vigilante or one of the rats got him.

Let's not forget a historically proven possibility as well... serial killer.

There are two other things that catch my eye right now. Zabrina was late, and unless I've gone deaf she didn't explain why she was late. Could she be one of the killers at night?

She could be a night investigator or any number of other things. Being late only indicates that something went on, it doesn't say what, and not explaining is quite natural, especially if you have a role you don't want revealed (which can be good or bad).

And it does seem that Adelaide was tortured, poor girl, but so far no one has come out to say she is guilty so I assume its safe to not call her loyal to the Mafia.

It isn't safe to make any assumptions there. As you may recall in history class, there was a town in the middle ages that seemed to have a witch problem. An inquisitor was sent to deal with it, but after the first night, his methods were somewhat forceably revealed, which ultimately led to a lot of confusion and death. He would have preferred not to reveal the nature of his night action, and it may be the same situation here. No matter what the investigator learned, they may not feel safe revealing it at this time. We don't even know if that is the reason for the attack. I have heard of situations where someone is attacked in an attempt to turn them to the opposite side. I do not have any idea if such a thing can occur here.

Oh yes, what about the names of the men she called? Not all of them were from the same group, so they might have some importance.

I can only answer for my role in things. My work for the family involves the area that she wishes to discuss. I assume that the others who were called are in a similar position. I also assume that other members of the family will be called upon when other types of business arrangements need to be dealt with.

This is a large operation, we have our hands in many businesses and coordinating all of that requires a careful balance. Iris knows what she is doing, that's the one thing we can count on here.

Well, I can't say that I don't have suspicions and questions about our current situation, it seems that whoever tortured Adelaide is a loyalist, albeit a cruel one. However we don't know who killed Tony, whether a Rat or loyalist...

And if we go by our previous thoughts, the rest of the Fronts are on our side, we should now see if we can find the rats in the rest of the groups.

Quarrioni, you're sure that Zabtina was home last night, she didn't leave? I'm sorry, but this needs to be cleared up.

Quarrioni, you're sure that Zabtina was home last night, she didn't leave? I'm sorry, but this needs to be cleared up.

Why are you asking me? She's not my wife, she's married to Trexxisanti. My wife is Pavarti. So unless you're implying something here I suggest you ask him instead.

Why are you asking me? She's not my wife, she's married to Trexxisanti. My wife is Pavarti. So unless you're implying something here I suggest you ask him instead.

I'm not implying anything. Sorry, it's this wine LeAnn got me. I blanked out for a second...

Sorry! My question was directed towards Trexxisanti.

Again, sorry for the mix up Quarrioni!

Well, I'm not entirely certain, since I do have to close my eyes once, but when I awoke she was right there next to me, so I'd assume so...

Care to say more? Oh, and that wasn't a question .

I'd really rather not, as that person might not want others to know that they have that action - besides, I've given all the hints I need to drop in this thread; it should be easy.

~Trexxisanti

Let's not forget a historically proven possibility as well... serial killer.

No, I find it quite likely that it was the rats. Tony did nothing to arouse any suspicion yesterday, so I find it doubtful that a vigilante would've done it. It could have been a serial killer, though considering that the attacker used a tommy gun, I find it unlikely. An arsonist is most likely out of the question too.

It isn't safe to make any assumptions there. As you may recall in history class, there was a town in the middle ages that seemed to have a witch problem...

I've never heard of that story before, but it sounds very interesting. I'd love to hear more about it some time.

And if we go by our previous thoughts, the rest of the Fronts are on our side, we should now see if we can find the rats in the rest of the groups.

I don't believe we should trust that theory. You can never rule anyone out in this game... of life. It's like they always say: you're guilty until proven innocent.