I Scream Clone Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 Ok, now look at what you just said. First you say it has nothing to do with race. You welcome anyone no matter what race they are, but then you go saying "as long as they are of Australian/NZ decent". So while you might not see it as being racist, it is discrimination. Your saying that anyone that isn't from Austrailian or NZ decent is not welcome. Thats discrimination. Plain and simple. You are correct in that they are discriminating against non Aus and NZ lego fans, but that is all. Im not sure what you are trying to prove otherwise. It is unfortunate that this site doesn't cater to fans from all around the world but don't try to make this a campaign, it was only ever meant to be a fun idea for Lego fans from Australia and New Zealand to discuss local issues and sales etc, with a chance of people being able to meet up at future events in Australia or NZ without having to travel to Europe or US, thus incuring huge travel costs etc. Think of it as an Aussie/NZ lug, of which there are many around the world. HB and DL have gone out of their way to launch and maintain a website, and though they are younger than AFOL's and have been a tad inflammatory in their responses to your posts, they will only mature as the years go by. Running a website like theirs will teach them a lot as well about Moderation and differing points of view from many people, so take heart that your opinions haven't fallen on deaf ears, but this should never be a personal attack on any person involved in either side of the argument. It is fortunate that you have found a great place like Eurobricks which has enabled you (and myself ) to make friends from all over the world who share a love of Lego, perhaps we should all just calm down and walk away from this issue. I hope these comments help diffuse the situation, and don't hesitate to contact me if any of this was worded incorrectly etc. Josh Quote
hollisbrick Posted February 10, 2009 Author Posted February 10, 2009 Wow. You just don't get it. I was using the race as an analogy. And how is joining a classic space and hating classic space the same as a non Aussie/NZ joining the same the same thing? Your implying that anyone that is not of Aussie or NZ decent automaticly hates Aussie or NZ. And that is completly un true. Ok, now look at what you just said. First you say it has nothing to do with race. You welcome anyone no matter what race they are, but then you go saying "as long as they are of Australian/NZ decent". So while you might not see it as being racist, it is discrimination. Your saying that anyone that isn't from Austrailian or NZ decent is not welcome. Thats discrimination. Plain and simple. DL and my point is that NZ and Aus. are made up of lots and lots different races. So if your, say, from Japan and you live in Aus. you are counted as an Aussie because really to be a real Australian you have to be from an Aboriginie decent And really if you don't like our idea why are you still havin a go at us? Just listen to ISC, he seems to know what he's talking about Thanks ISC Quote
Darth_Legois Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 Ok, now look at what you just said. First you say it has nothing to do with race. You welcome anyone no matter what race they are, but then you go saying "as long as they are of Australian/NZ decent". So while you might not see it as being racist, it is discrimination. Your saying that anyone that isn't from Austrailian or NZ decent is not welcome. Thats discrimination. Plain and simple. You could be any race but be an Australian/New Zealand Citizen. Its not so much race but the geography. So what? Its for Aussie/Nz FOL's if you've got a problem with it being just us then to bad. Im sick of arguing over this especially since you're just angry you cant join/that others that arent Aussie/Nz cant. You are correct in that they are discriminating against non Aus and NZ lego fans, but that is all. Im not sure what you are trying to prove otherwise. It is unfortunate that this site doesn't cater to fans from all around the world but don't try to make this a campaign, it was only ever meant to be a fun idea for Lego fans from Australia and New Zealand to discuss local issues and sales etc, with a chance of people being able to meet up at future events in Australia or NZ without having to travel to Europe or US, thus incuring huge travel costs etc. Think of it as an Aussie/NZ lug, of which there are many around the world. HB and DL have gone out of their way to launch and maintain a website, and though they are younger than AFOL's and have been a tad inflammatory in their responses to your posts, they will only mature as the years go by. Running a website like theirs will teach them a lot as well about Moderation and differing points of view from many people, so take heart that your opinions haven't fallen on deaf ears, but this should never be a personal attack on any person involved in either side of the argument. It is fortunate that you have found a great place like Eurobricks which has enabled you (and myself ) to make friends from all over the world who share a love of Lego, perhaps we should all just calm down and walk away from this issue. I hope these comments help diffuse the situation, and don't hesitate to contact me if any of this was worded incorrectly etc. Josh Thanks ISC, I dont think we could/would cater to fans all over the world [Especially since theres already EB and lots of other global sites] Quote
I Scream Clone Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 Ok HB and DL, you need to tone your responses down just as much as 5150, that is the whole reason this is spiralling out of control. Please show some maturity in the way you are addressing 5150 as well. This will only help the situation. Cheers ISC Quote
Siegfried Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 Ok HB and DL, you need to tone your responses down just as much as 5150, that is the whole reason this is spiralling out of control. Indeed. This topic is in danger of being closed. Quote
hollisbrick Posted February 10, 2009 Author Posted February 10, 2009 Ok HB and DL, you need to tone your responses down just as much as 5150, that is the whole reason this is spiralling out of control. Please show some maturity in the way you are addressing 5150 as well. This will only help the situation.Cheers ISC He's right (told you he knows what he's talking about ) Let's stay on topic shall we If there are any Aussie's or NZ fans that haven't signed on yet what are you waiting for!! There is still meat pies and beer to be had! Quote
Admiral Blockbeard Posted February 11, 2009 Posted February 11, 2009 If you do come to visit please note that it is still being constructed at the moment. Please do not see the quality it is now as a long lasting status. If you have viewed it already and decided to give it a miss please do visit by regularly you will be surprised by the progress made on the site. Regards, Cpt. PB Quote
5150 Lego Posted February 11, 2009 Posted February 11, 2009 HB and DL have gone out of their way to launch and maintain a website, and though they are younger than AFOL's and have been a tad inflammatory in their responses to your posts, they will only mature as the years go by. Running a website like theirs will teach them a lot as well about Moderation and differing points of view from many people, so take heart that your opinions haven't fallen on deaf ears, but this should never be a personal attack on any person involved in either side of the argument. I kinda gathered that they were young by there responses. They could really learn from you Josh and i hope for thesucess of thier web site you have somthing to do with its moderation. I hope by running this web site they do learn that just cause someone is from the same country doesn't mean there going to get along any better than someone that is from another country. I've learned this leason the hard way but i hope they don't have to learn the same way i did. You could be any race but be an Australian/New Zealand Citizen. Its not so much race but the geography. Sigh... This is exactly my point. Your not welcoming people based on there decent. That is discrimination. So what? Its for Aussie/Nz FOL's if you've got a problem with it being just us then to bad. Im sick of arguing over this especially since you're just angry you cant join/that others that arent Aussie/Nz cant. For the record, you really can't prevent anyone that isn't of Australian/NZ decent. Just like EB can't really prevent people under the age of 18 (like yourselfs) from joining. Second, the reason i was getting so worked up about this is because i can't stand discrimination of any kind. Wether it be because of race, geography, religion, its just somthing that i truely don't like because there really is no reason for it. Its not my intent to get your thread locked so i'll just end it here. Quote
hollisbrick Posted February 14, 2009 Author Posted February 14, 2009 Cool idea, but looks dead. Well it's only been up a week Quote
DarthSion Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 (edited) Oh ok, might join up then sometime. Edited February 15, 2009 by DarthSion Quote
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