Darth Legolas Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 (edited) Just a couple of thoughts...Firstly as pointed out by a few people we have already had what is effectively a hoth battle pack. Why would we get another? Now the pictures aren't clear but it looks to me like the sets we are looking at another clones vs pack. The box art matches the new clone wars style (which I know doesn't mean anything as it well early but still..) In this case I think the right hand box is a set of snow trooper clones with a BARC speederbike. Have a look at this episode guide from the tv series: http://www.starwars.com/theclonewars/guide/episode015.html So I think this is what we will be getting some of: Blockade runner looks good but I'm seeing lots of stickers.. god I miss printed parts! No! I've said this already! Yeah yeah yeah... Clone Wars box, still, the Midi-Scale MF. What's up with that and it's Clone Wars box? It's still OT. Second of all, this episode is an insignificant dot in the Star Wars universe, compared to the ESB which is also having it's anniversary! Doesn't anyone get that in order for Lego to make anything based off of the Clone Wars TV series it has to be in at least two episodes? You know the Senate Commandos were in the movie, and their predecessors in TPM, they were significant enough to make. These Clone Cold Assault Troopers make no impression on the dent of the Star Wars universe... they are nothing!!! I am going crazy to prove that those battle packs are Hoth, which all adds up! Sorry if this is considering flaming. I'm making my own head hurt! EDIT: Sorry KimT! I'll try to ease off with the emoticons. Edited July 14, 2009 by Darth Legolas Quote
lemming Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 (edited) Hmmm maybe I just can't see them giving us another set with snow troopers and hoth rebels when they just gave us one a few months earlier. The only thing they are really missing from potential hoth sets are a wampa cave with a luke figure. As for the clone wars stuff.. I think the pirate tank proves they are happy to make pretty much anything into a set. Personally I'd like to see some droid commandos! Edited July 14, 2009 by lemming Quote
Tinn-man Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 The RBR definitely has minifigs. Why, you ask? Well, first, check the cockpit. Why would lego go to the trouble of printing a curved piece that large just to have a small clear window in the middle of the cockpit? If you look at picture of the RBR, that section isn't even clear, but black. So why would LEGO print that entire piece in order to get a small window, which isn't even movie accurate, when they could have just made that section black, and saved tons of effort, but had the same effect? The answer is simple. They wanted to include a section for minifigures to 'see' out of. Its just a playability feature. Like the oversized turrets. Playability feature. There also is the issue of the clasps on the side of the ship. Certain people who like to do detailed and humorous reviews of sets ( ) have said that these clasps were just structural. I thought that too, for a while. But look at the bottom wing of the ship. It looks like it would be held up the same way as the top, right? Well, if LEGO intended to use the clasps for structural reasons, they would run into a problem here. Those clasps are not nearly strong enough to hold up an entire wing of a ship. The bottom wing would just fall down. And nothing is connected to it from the other side. So LEGO used a different mechanism to connect the bottom wing than they did to connect the top wing. Why wouldn't they just design the ship so that the top and the bottom connect the same way? There would less variety of parts, and it would be more cost effective for LEGO. Once again, LEGO wants the clasps on the top, because they wings are designed to open. For the purpose of PLAYABILITY. So why would LEGO go to these great lengths to include playability, and not include any minifigures? They wouldn't. It's just common sense. I rest my case. Quote
Derek Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 Blockade runner looks good but I'm seeing lots of stickers.. god I miss printed parts! Where do you see stickers? Quote
Hinckley Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 I've removed the pics from the thread as TLG is revealing this set very soon at an upcoming event. They'd like to keep it as much a surprise as possible and we are glad to help. Please help us in keeping the secret for a few more days. Thanks. Quote
Penitent Tangent Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 The cockpit on the blockade runner alone shows that it isn't midi scale. The mid Falcon has a very basic piece used as the cockpit, where as here it's very large, transparant and very clearly opens out to seat mini-figs. I look forward to more midi scaled ships, but this definitely isn't one. As for the battle packs.. I think I'd probably prefer they were Clone Wars, although I know that would annoy a lot of the OT fans. Hoth packs would go really well with the Echo Base, but then why did they discontinue the Hoth Base set? All of them together would have added up to something really cool, but if you missed the limited run of the Hoth Base, it's all a bit pointless. Quote
Darth Legolas Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 Well, that secret was blown! I'm still looking forward to any surprise play features! "Guess what everybody, more escape pods! In fact, every engine becomes an escape pod!" Quote
Luke McAwesome Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 I've noticed that Hinckley has removed the pictures of the RBR due to someone's request; most likely someone from LEGO. Quote
odinson1313 Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 ...in order for Lego to make anything based off of the Clone Wars TV series it has to be in at least two episodes? I don't think this is a hard and fast rule at all, though I wouldn't be surprised at all if these do turn out to be Hoth related sets. If it were true that something would need to be in two episodes to be included in a set, how did we get Commander Fox? While I agree that it does appear to be the case with most, if not everything else in the Clone Wars related sets, I don't think there is any such limitation on LEGO when deciding what to produce. My opinion personally is that these will be related to the Clone Wars, possibly from episodes that haven't aired yet, but who knows really. I think that appeal to buyers is what guides LEGOs decisions in what to produce, and by that regard, I think the cold assault Rex sounds like a fantastic choice. Rex is one of the key characters of the series. (Although I'd be shocked to see a main character in a battle pack - which is why I think these will be from episodes we haven't seen yet.) As far as the anniversary of ESB, even though it will be the anniversary, that doesn't mean that every set made next year will be ESB related, especially since we're also getting a new season of the Clone Wars. We're going to get new sets from those too. And besides, by my count we've already gotten 10 Hoth related sets (4 Snowspeeders (5 if you count the mini redesign that hasn't surfaced) - 7130, 4486, 4500 and 10129, 3 AT-ATs - 4483, 4489 and 10178, Hoth Rebel Base - 7666, Echo Base - 7749, even a Millennium Falcon - 4504. Cloud City, however, has only seen 5 sets (Cloud Car - 7119, 3 of Slave I - 7144, 6964 and 6209 and Cloud City - 10123). We need Ugnaughts in a Carbon Freeze chamber. Or if LEGO really wanted to make us happy, give us an Executor. Quote
Oky Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 (edited) I'm glad to see that more people agree with me now. Special thanks to Tinn-Man for giving a detailed list of proofs for the fact that the RBR is minifig scale. Then again, the movie version was more than three times the size of the Falcon. Hm... You're probably right about that. But I'm pretty sure that is a coincidence. The whole point of the Midi-scale series is swooshability, and the RBR doesn't seem incredibly swooshable. I politely disagree about your minifig-space count. I estimate 2 in the cockpit You could be right, but seeing as the the last minifig-scale MF could fit two figs in the cockpit (which was half the size of that of the RBR), I'm sure that you could at least mod it to fit 4 figs. If they're all Hoth Rebels, and they hide the pilot inside the vehicle, some people may not notice him and may not bother getting it if it's just a few Hoth Rebels. Yeah, that makes sense, I guess. Just like the clone gunner in the clone BP is fighting as infantry instead of driving the walker as he should. Btw, they did correct that mistake with the pilot in the RAS on the final box art. I wonder if these BP are really Hoth battlepacks. People here and elsewhere were asking for Hoth BPs, and also seeing the same in some blurry images: Snowtroopers, Hoth Rebels, even a Tauntaun and a laser turret.But.... isn't it exactly what we got this year? Why should they come out with the same thing, just divided into the factions? Because they are Battle Packs! The point of them is to build armies. It is kinda hard to amass armies with a $25 set that only includes 5 figs, one of which is a main character. If it were true that something would need to be in two episodes to be included in a set, how did we get Commander Fox? Fox was in the CW movie AND the Season 1 finale. As much as I would love Cold Assault troopers too, I'm pretty damn sure these BPs are OT. As other have said, it only makes sense. The more I look at the RBR, the more I like it - and I already liked it to begin with. If I can get it for under $100 at some point and if it has good figs, I might get it. Mark my words, people! The RBR is minifig scale and has figs! You'll see! Edited July 14, 2009 by Oky Wan Kenobi Quote
L-space Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 I've removed the pics from the thread as TLG is revealing this set very soon at an upcoming event. They'd like to keep it as much a surprise as possible and we are glad to help. Please help us in keeping the secret for a few more days. Thanks. There goes my fifteen seconds of fame. oh and Jansued find the originals, thanks mate. On the RBR in a nutshell. I think there will be: minifigs; Leia, Antilles, Rebel trooper maybe everybodies favourite Dark Lord. playability; guns, opening sides, cockpit, two-hand swooshability stickers; i dont don't see any design; it looks like the RBR so that's a good start, great cockpit, the engines are hard to see but the other three could fit in there i think overall; I like it. Bring on the unveiling and show me more. Quote
pedro Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 I've removed the pics from the thread as TLG is revealing this set very soon at an upcoming event. They'd like to keep it as much a surprise as possible and we are glad to help. Please help us in keeping the secret for a few more days. Thanks. An upcoming event? No, it couldn't be... not... my birthday?! Awww, you guys!!! Joking aside... if the reveal is soon it won't be long 'til all our questions are answered and fears allayed. Can't wait! I guess pedro is good at guessing. Heh, you reckon? I'd be happy if I'm right Quote
CaptainRex110 Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 I'm guessing this upcoming event is Comic Con? I sure hope so! Quote
KimT Posted July 14, 2009 Author Posted July 14, 2009 You guys sure do a lot of guessing these days And good guessing ideed. I guess you'll just have to wait and see... Quote
L-space Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 You guys sure do a lot of guessing these days And good guessing ideed. I guess you'll just have to wait and see... That's all we can do. You tell us diddlysquat. Quote
Darth Legolas Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 (edited) I'm glad to see that more people agree with me now. Special thanks to Tinn-Man for giving a detailed list of proofs for the fact that the RBR is minifig scale. Hm... You're probably right about that. But I'm pretty sure that is a coincidence. The whole point of the Midi-scale series is swooshability, and the RBR doesn't seem incredibly swooshable. You could be right, but seeing as the the last minifig-scale MF could fit two figs in the cockpit (which was half the size of that of the RBR), I'm sure that you could at least mod it to fit 4 figs. Yeah, that makes sense, I guess. Just like the clone gunner in the clone BP is fighting as infantry instead of driving the walker as he should. Btw, they did correct that mistake with the pilot in the RAS on the final box art. Because they are Battle Packs! The point of them is to build armies. It is kinda hard to amass armies with a $25 set that only includes 5 figs, one of which is a main character. Fox was in the CW movie AND the Season 1 finale. As much as I would love Cold Assault troopers too, I'm pretty damn sure these BPs are OT. As other have said, it only makes sense. The more I look at the RBR, the more I like it - and I already liked it to begin with. If I can get it for under $100 at some point and if it has good figs, I might get it. Mark my words, people! The RBR is minifig scale and has figs! You'll see! Wrong! Well you're right about the minifig scaled thing-that's obvious! Can't you people see that? But Fox was never in the finale of Clone Wars! Fox was only in the movie, but TLG made him because there are tons of other commanders that look like him. You've probably mistaken him with Ponds! P.S. Does anyone know what happened to the post I made? I quoted a member earlier, and the post disappeared into thin air! P.S.S. There's a picture of Ponds there, for those who can't see it. Edited July 14, 2009 by Darth Legolas Quote
Oky Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 Wrong! Well you're right about the minifig scaled thing-that's obvious! Can't you people see that? But Fox was never in the finale of Clone Wars! Fox was only in the movie, but TLG made him because there are tons of other commanders that look like him. You've probably mistaken him with Ponds! No, I was talking about the one busting into Palpatine's office near the end of Hostage Crisis and "securing the senator". I thought that was Fox, but Wookieepedia doesn't list him among the characters of that episode. Quote
Klaus-Dieter Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 (edited) It's good that I had a look on EB yesterday and saved the pic of the RBR! An additional comment to the Rebel Blockade Runner: It's nearly excluded that we'll get more than two locations (the cockpit and the floor) since the back part is filled with the engines and the escape pod, the part between the cockpit and the midsection if too small. So only the middle part of the midsection (4-6 stucks wide) stays since the outer parts of the midsection are much too small (only about 2-4 stucks tall). So no chance for a little room with engines and a little room where Vader is torturing Raymus Antilles. So the chance is very low that I'll buy it - if not TLG hides some extraordinary surprises in it. An additional comment to the Hoth BPs: The right BP: Now I can clearly detect two Snowtroopers and a Hoth Rebel Trooper with a big gun in the back. But what's very right surely can not be said before we get clearer pics - but it's surely no Wampa or Tauntaun since this would increase the price of the BP immensly (if it shall be in about the same price range like the January BPs of the last years). The left BP: I totally agree that the Rebel Pilot is placed outside the tank surely only because he can be better seen in this way. But who can say that this is an "universal" Rebel Pilot (meaning not aa special character - so you can use it in several tanks without then having some characters (like e. g. Luke) appearing several times) and not a main character such as Luke or Dack? I personally would much more prefer to have no special character or main character included. And do I see wrong or are there really five minifigs in total included in this set - the Rebel Pilot in the front, two Rebels on top of the tank and two other Rebels in the right upper corner of the box? In contrast to the RBR I will surely buy these Hoth BPs if they are from the OT since they seem to look awesome with those great vehicles and minifigs. Klaus-Dieter Edited July 14, 2009 by Klaus-Dieter Quote
Loganwan Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 Wrong! Well you're right about the minifig scaled thing-that's obvious! Can't you people see that? But Fox was never in the finale of Clone Wars! Fox was only in the movie, but TLG made him because there are tons of other commanders that look like him. You've probably mistaken him with Ponds! P.S. Does anyone know what happened to the post I made? I quoted a member earlier, and the post disappeared into thin air! P.S.S. There's a picture of Ponds there, for those who can't see it. Actually I Fox did make it into one episode before he got blown away saving the senator. But not a good reason to make a minifig of him. Quote
CaptainRex110 Posted July 15, 2009 Posted July 15, 2009 You guys sure do a lot of guessing these days And good guessing indeed. I guess you'll just have to wait and see... Excuse me? I hate it when you guys know what's going on and we know nothing! Quote
The Who Posted July 15, 2009 Posted July 15, 2009 Excuse me?I hate it when you guys know what's going on and we know nothing! When Copmike posts in this thread, I think that generally means they know something we don't. Quote
Legoking Posted July 15, 2009 Posted July 15, 2009 (edited) I was wondering if any one knows how many minifigs or which ones will be included in 10198 Blockade Runner? LegoKing Edited July 15, 2009 by LegoKing Quote
Hewman Posted July 15, 2009 Posted July 15, 2009 (edited) I was wondering if any of you have seen this picture of 10198 Blockade Runner?image snipped LegoKing Hey LegoKing This has been seen but it was removed at Lego's request, you might want to remove it from your post. Cheers Hewman Edit: Quick work LegoKing! To answer your other question, the best guesses here say 5 figs, Captain Antilles, Leia, R2, C-3PO and one rebel Edited July 15, 2009 by hewman Quote
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