CP5670 Posted April 19, 2009 Posted April 19, 2009 You might want to try a normal battery box. I don't have the solar panel but my guess is it outputs much less than the full 9V. Quote
simonwillems Posted April 19, 2009 Posted April 19, 2009 I made some photos to compare the Emerald Night with the older 10205 "My own train" in green. Thanks for this comparision, they are almost the same lenght in total, surprisingly... Your folder still isn't public I am afraid. Quote
Holodoc Posted April 19, 2009 Posted April 19, 2009 You might want to try a normal battery box. I don't have the solar panel but my guess is it outputs much less than the full 9V. Yes I could do that. But where´s the fun? I wanted to make it a solar-powered engine. Quote
Gouns Posted April 19, 2009 Posted April 19, 2009 OMG the train, it function with solar pannel ! Great job ! Quote
Cale Posted April 19, 2009 Posted April 19, 2009 I made some photos to compare the Emerald Night with the older 10205 "My own train" in green.(I had to change the colors from blue to green for that, but that´s another story) The 10205 used to be a very nice train - until the moment the EN arrived... Then I wanted to build a Emarald Day - a solar powered engine. I used the solar panel and an older 9v motor for this: The EN is a much nice steam engine than the old My Own Train stuff. And the solar power is a amusing twist. Somehow the wheels always got stucked at this position: I think the older 9V-motor is not strong enough to power the train. So it´s just sit and wait until the ordered PF-elements will arrive. That's odd. Are your drivers properly quartered? Cale Quote
Zorbas Posted April 19, 2009 Posted April 19, 2009 Thanks for the great pictures Holodoc! They are really great! Well, what can I say? I'll leave the mechanical - means of power aspect aside, since I don't know much, and I'll just focus on the overall design and looks of the Emerald Night. It is just beautiful and amazing! The engine especially is to drool for! The colours are excellent, the size is the best and while viewing some of these photos, you can't even tell that it is LEGO-made, in a good way of course! It reminds me of some model trains I see occasionally in big dioramas. This gold colour looks great on green, especially these stripes that "break" the "greeness". The minifig driver is also great (well, he is my sigfig's brother actually... ) and the passenger's car colours are-yes, you've guessed well-, also great! To conclude, i'm definitely gonna buy it, just to get my hands on that steam engine! I sound excited, don't I? I am... Then I wanted to build a Emarald Day - a solar powered engine. I bow to thee! Quote
legotrainfan Posted April 19, 2009 Posted April 19, 2009 Holodoc, thanks for providing us with so many pictures on your brickshelf account! I've been asking myself if you could build a full circle with one set of flex-tracks, and, after looking at your pics, I know you can. Quote
Brickthus Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 That's odd. Are your drivers properly quartered?Cale I concur. Holodoc, check engine instructions step 49, on page 51 of book 1. The lower right box shows the correct alignment of the wheel crank pins at 90 degrees to each other. The jamming of the rods also goes to show that, for any steam engine, a rearward extension of the line of slide of the main piston rods should pass through a point at the rotational centre of the crank that attaches the drive rod to the connecting rod. For steam engines with 6 driving wheels, where the driving rod attaches to the cank pin of the middle set of driving wheels, that point is on the axle of the middle set of driving wheels. Many steam engines have their cylinders at an angle for this reason, except when the slide of the piston rods is along the horizontal line through all the driving axles. In the case of 10194 the line should point to a place 1M behind the front driving axle. That is a bad point of 10194 - the drive rod should extend to the crank pin of the middle wheel, but a 1x8 half beam (extending the 1x5 rod by 3M) is only available with a rack, which wouldn't look right. A 1x7 half beam would have been better. Angling steam engine cylinders requires a bit more cunning than would be expected in a set, though the Vestas Wind Turbine set 4999 is not the only sets to use a suitable offset peg technique in the attachment of the turbine blades to the spool. Mark Quote
WesternOutlaw Posted April 22, 2009 Posted April 22, 2009 Great pictures Holodoc! Thanks for sharing. I received my Emerald Night today, and couldn't wait to bring it in to start building. Unfortunately, my set (as well as the box for the flex track) was severely damaged. My local carrier (UPS) always seems to smash larger boxes and with the bubble bag shipping material, this causes the set to get smashed. After calling Lego, they will be sending a new one that should arrive Monday of next week. Friday, they'll have the damaged box picked up. In addition, I'm receiving each of the components separately (although I ordered the collection at the same time). I'm still missing one or two of the components (I'm not even sure what). I'm so disappointed! I was seriously thinking about ordering some of the modular city sets, but after this, I don't think I'll be doing so. I'd hate to receive them smashed as well. Very disheartened! Quote
Holodoc Posted April 22, 2009 Posted April 22, 2009 I concur. Holodoc, check engine instructions step 49, on page 51 of book 1. The lower right box shows the correct alignment of the wheel crank pins at 90 degrees to each other. You´re absolutely right! Thanks for pointing it out. I´m not at home in the moment, so I´ll have to check it later and will tell you how it worked. ...Unfortunately, my set (as well as the box for the flex track) was severely damaged. ... Well, mine wasn´t damaged from the outside because I picked it up at the Store in Oberhausen, BUT the sticker sheet came in very bad condition: crinkles all over the sheet and one sticker was missing! We have a topic about that, until now I thought I never would complain, but within this set my opinion changed. The sticker sheets should be placed inside the manual to avoid damage. Quote
Cavannus Posted April 22, 2009 Posted April 22, 2009 (edited) Unfortunately, my set (as well as the box for the flex track) was severely damaged. My local carrier (UPS) always seems to smash larger boxes [...] Canada Post made a better job! They should take care about that, otherwise people will stop buying though the internet... In addition, I'm receiving each of the components separately (although I ordered the collection at the same time). I'm still missing one or two of the components (I'm not even sure what). I've received three parcels, and I'm still waiting for the remote control! I preferred laughing about that rather than being disappointed, and I told my girlfriend "now I know why Lego sets are expensive: they send each brick in a separate parcel"! Anyway it's a pity but I'm happy to have got the set as soon as possible, so that I'll build it soon (even if l have to wait for the remote control) instead of receiving the whole package later. But I agree with you, in terms of image it looks bad: if it was my first order at Lego S@H, I'd think this company wasn't very serious nor professional... I was seriously thinking about ordering some of the modular city sets, but after this, I don't think I'll be doing so. I'd hate to receive them smashed as well. They are good sets, you should give Lego another chance. I hope you sent them your feedback. * * * By the way, what do you think about those flexible tracks? I don't like them: they make a lot of annoying noise (tac-tac-tac-tac...) as well as they create too much friction. I like the use of warm white for the leds (despite their greenish tint). Edited April 22, 2009 by Cavannus Quote
BryanKinkel Posted April 23, 2009 Posted April 23, 2009 So has anyone tried to power this with a standard 9V engine yet? I would enjoy seeing some pictures. -- Bryan Quote
Captain Zuloo Posted April 23, 2009 Posted April 23, 2009 It will run with two 9v motors in the tender, but that involves lengthening the tender and I'm not going to risk burning out my two 9v motors since they are no longer available without paying $60 AUD... Quote
der seb Posted April 23, 2009 Author Posted April 23, 2009 Hi there I built this train in MLCAD http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=377940 Sebastian Quote
Pierre_Cochereau Posted April 24, 2009 Posted April 24, 2009 (edited) I bought the 10194 this past Tuesday at the LEGO Store at Tysons Corner (McLean, VA) ... it was the last set left, and they had been holding it on reserve for somebody else who didn't pick it up. His loss, my gain. I also ordered the Emerald Night Collection (the whole package) which arrived today. The battery box was shipped in a separate small package but did arrive together with the rest. I was kind of relieved because everybody else here seemed to have to wait for the remote which was on backorder. Now ... I can't wait until I have time to put it all together ... two more weeks ... Edited April 24, 2009 by Pierre_Cochereau Quote
frogstudio Posted April 24, 2009 Posted April 24, 2009 Just a question to anyone who really knows about trains... During which years of history would Emeral Night fit? Many thanks... Quote
Captain Zuloo Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 Well, many people believe that 10194 is based on the Flying Scotsman which was built in 1923. Quote
frogstudio Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 Well, many people believe that 10194 is based on the Flying Scotsman which was built in 1923. Thanks for the info!!!! :) Quote
furious Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 it is almost a direct image of the Flying Scotsman. Quote
Stash2Sixx Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 I saw an Emerald Night tonight and it was powered by a 9v motor! The tender had to be lengthened and it was only running with one train coach in tow. If he has no problems, I'll get a few pictures up here after this weekend. Again, not my mod, but I saw an Emerald Night running with a 9v motor, and it looked pretty darn sweet! Quote
Brickimad Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 It will run with two 9v motors in the tender, but that involves lengthening the tender and I'm not going to risk burning out my two 9v motors since they are no longer available without paying $60 AUD... Am also thinking of adding a second tender and using a 9V motor in it. By the way you sometimes can get replacement 9V motors of both types of ebay. Bought 2 quite cheap and run well... Quote
DaCheese Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 Just a question to anyone who really knows about trains... During which years of history would Emeral Night fit? Many thanks... It's more a case of when you want Emerald night to be from. I'm looking at mine and it's best described as a UK engine with some European influence; something about the front end looks a bit Japanese but I'm not yet sure what it is. As mentioned by Captain Zuloo and furious it looks like an LNER A3 (of which the Flying Scotsman is the sole survivor) in post-1960 British Railways condition, right down to the colour (if Wikipedia is to be believed the smoke deflectors, those bits sticking up at the sides on the front, were fitted from 1960 onwards). The lack of framing around the rear carrying axle under the cab reminds me of pacifics built before 1923, such as The Great Bear, built in 1908, and the Bavarian S 3/6 class from about the same time. Having said that, that's most likely a limitation of the parts the designer(s) had available, although the standard train wheelset could have been squeezed in with a bit of alteration and would have been more accurate. Anyway, sorry for the essay. I'd say post-1960. Quote
Cavannus Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 (edited) Looks familiar, doesn´t it? Yes, it's an almost exact copy of this engine... I looked for similar models in my train books and found some family likeness with German 1930-40's engines, but since I saw Flying Scotsman photos I've been convinced! I think Lego should have called this set "Flying Scotsman" and introduce it like a replica -- as they did with Santa Fe and BNSF trains. I think some train amateurs would like to own a Lego copy of an existing train rather than a "anonymous" toy. I guess they didn't so that they could keep flexibility (e.g. for the front colour which is black instead of red, for the lantern positioning which is something neither Britannic, nor French, nor American). I a pity because there are only a few minor differences between the real model and the Lego set. Edited April 25, 2009 by Cavannus Quote
Brickimad Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 (edited) On the carriage, I've added a 9V motor, so the carriage, in effect driving the train, wierd, but it works and does not look far out of place... So has anyone tried to power this with a standard 9V engine yet? I would enjoy seeing some pictures. -- Bryan This the 9V conversion. The motors on the Carriage, which drives the train Edited April 25, 2009 by Brickimad Quote
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