Zorbas Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 Do you mean that the carriage only includes seats for 4 minifigs or do you mean that there are only 4 minifigs in this set? Because: There are regrettably only three minifigs in this set! Klaus-Dieter I 100% can share your feelings about that Klaus-Dieter . If we make some comparisons with the 80's train sets and the Metroliner the results are just dissapointing. Is there a birth control in TLG's headquarters and we don't know it? Quote
simonwillems Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 Do you mean that the carriage only includes seats for 4 minifigs or do you mean that there are only 4 minifigs in this set? Because: There are regrettably only three minifigs in this set! Klaus-Dieter I think he means that there is room for four minifigs to be seated on an actual seat, because there are four seats. Not that bad: the 4558 Metroliner also had only four seats in the main carriage and with some modification it is always possible to increase the number of seats. Quote
Deinonychus Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 That's an absolutley gorgeous train...I may have to pick that up. considering I've never been interested in LEGO trains before, I'd call that a triumph of design Quote
Captain Zuloo Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 I think another carriage would be great but the price would be to much [especially AUD] What makes you say that 'Darth_Legois? Quote
pe668 Posted February 22, 2009 Posted February 22, 2009 I wonder what the market would be like for just the loco 2nd hand. If the coaches were not released separately then I could buy a few sets and hopefully sell the loco just to get more coaches. All those nice dark green pieces and the new wheels may just end up in my sort pile. So many great sets this year I better start planning a bank robbery. Quote
Millacol88 Posted February 22, 2009 Posted February 22, 2009 Not sure if this has been posted yet, but 10194 Emerald Night Train is now available for preorder on Shop@Home. Quote
TJJohn12 Posted February 22, 2009 Posted February 22, 2009 Not sure if this has been posted yet, but 10194 Emerald Night Train is now available for preorder on Shop@Home. What country are you looking at the store from, Millacol? I'm viewing it from the US, and all I can see is "add to my wishlist." I'm looking forward to this set. Hopefully it hits LEGO brand retail at about the same time it hits S@H. -John Quote
Freddie Posted February 22, 2009 Posted February 22, 2009 Certainly not the swedish one, that's for sure. But I did notice that they've moved the launch-date forward four days here. Quote
Klaus-Dieter Posted February 22, 2009 Posted February 22, 2009 I 100% can share your feelings about that Klaus-Dieter .If we make some comparisons with the 80's train sets and the Metroliner the results are just dissapointing. Is there a birth control in TLG's headquarters and we don't know it? I totally agree with you, Zorbas! Perhaps it's even not a birth control in TLG but the embittered pizzas they're selling in the brilliant pizzeria in the awesome City Corner set. I think he means that there is room for four minifigs to be seated on an actual seat, because there are four seats.Not that bad: the 4558 Metroliner also had only four seats in the main carriage and with some modification it is always possible to increase the number of seats. I totally agree with you, simonwillems! It's not that bad that they're only fitting four minifigs in the train since 1. with the cupboard and the tables it looks much more lovely and 2. there is anyway only one passenger included in this set - so for what a huge mass of seats?! Klaus-Dieter Quote
Captain Zuloo Posted February 22, 2009 Posted February 22, 2009 I just checked 10194 on LEGO S@H Australia, and I found some good news! She will be availible 4 days earlier than expected here too. So I plan to purchase 10194 Emerald Night, 6242 Soldiers Fort and 6243 Brickbeard's Bounty on the 11th of April. I know the Pirate sets are already availible, but if I wait until the 11th and order the, with the Emerald, I can get reduced shipping rates. Yay! Quote
simonwillems Posted February 22, 2009 Posted February 22, 2009 What country are you looking at the store from, Millacol? I'm viewing it from the US, and all I can see is "add to my wishlist." Well... the information underneath his name states that he is freezing in Canada It is not available for preorder here in the Netherlands, but on the other hand: it's not freezing here either Quote
Darth_Legois Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 I bet that they'll sell a seperate carriage, too.The dark green is indeed a great color. I hope that TLG will use it in more City sets in the future - a forester's or hunter's jeep in dark green would be great, don't you think?! Do you mean that the carriage only includes seats for 4 minifigs or do you mean that there are only 4 minifigs in this set? Because: There are regrettably only three minifigs in this set! Klaus-Dieter Yeah it would be cool if they did more in D Green. I mean It only has 4 seats so can only "seat" 4 minifigs. I like the minifigs in this set actually. Especially the driver for that rare black kepi I think he means that there is room for four minifigs to be seated on an actual seat, because there are four seats.Not that bad: the 4558 Metroliner also had only four seats in the main carriage and with some modification it is always possible to increase the number of seats. Well It'd be abit cramped. What makes you say that 'Darth_Legois? IDK If they added extra they'd somehow round it up to $200 ... I just checked 10194 on LEGO S@H Australia, and I found some good news! She will be availible 4 days earlier than expected here too. So I plan to purchase 10194 Emerald Night, 6242 Soldiers Fort and 6243 Brickbeard's Bounty on the 11th of April. I know the Pirate sets are already availible, but if I wait until the 11th and order the, with the Emerald, I can get reduced shipping rates. Yay! Cool. Quote
Pierre_Cochereau Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 (edited) Not to get back into the whole discussion on whether or not this amazing set will contain a motor – I believe it has been established by now that it won't. However, I am convinced that provisions have been made for a train motor (which presumably is to be bought separately) to be built into the engine. I ground my thesis on the following observation: If you click on the zoom tool on S@H, go to the highest possible resolution, and then zoom in on the large wheels with the red rubber strings, you will see that the first and the third wheel are connected to the main body of the engine by a conventional black TECHNIC axle, while the middle wheel is connected to the main body of the engine by a tan connector peg/cross axle. Connecting the drive wheels (the ones that get the train moving) to an RC motor by way of such a TECHNIC axle is exactly the way it was done in the recent RC train sets 7897 and 7898. This leads me to believe that while a motor will not come with the set, nevertheless it will be possible to buy one of the new PF train motors and equip this amazing engine with one. In other words, I believe that provisions have been made on the part of TLG to make this an actual working engine, rather than a model intended to be put on display, or a push-along train only. So much for the bright side. The downside , of course, is that TLG seems to expect us to spend additional money on buying one (or multiple copies) of the yet to be released PF train motors in order to get this beauty rolling. Edited February 23, 2009 by Pierre_Cochereau Quote
Millacol88 Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 My bad, must have misread the webpage.... its not available for preorder anywhere. Quote
Er!k Posted February 24, 2009 Posted February 24, 2009 After some major doughts I have decided not to order the Emerald Night... The engine is too wide for my old switching tracks and railway station Quote
Captain Zuloo Posted February 24, 2009 Posted February 24, 2009 How is it too wide for points? Aren't all train system points the same? Quote
Er!k Posted February 24, 2009 Posted February 24, 2009 How is it too wide for points? Aren't all train system points the same? Wheelbase is 4, so this will fit all tracks. For the old train system trains can be max. 6 wide. The engine is 7 or 8 wide... Quote
Staszek Posted February 24, 2009 Posted February 24, 2009 I was considering entering Lego trains but my Lego come back came in the time of 9V/RC transition which make me hesitant and once it was known that there will be another transition coming I had no other option than wait. Here is a basic question - what do you mean by saying that Emerald Night will not fit old tracks or setups? 9V? RC (though there was not much)? ie. can I look for an old 9V train station or other train buildings or should I check carefully if new train is not to wide to fit? Quote
Er!k Posted February 24, 2009 Posted February 24, 2009 I was considering entering Lego trains but my Lego come back came in the time of 9V/RC transition which make me hesitant and once it was known that there will be another transition coming I had no other option than wait.Here is a basic question - what do you mean by saying that Emerald Night will not fit old tracks or setups? 9V? RC (though there was not much)? ie. can I look for an old 9V train station or other train buildings or should I check carefully if new train is not to wide to fit? The Emerald can run on every track. But I have some old switching tracks and if you want to have two trains running parallel, the max width can be 6. The newer switching tracks have a wider turn, so no problem here. With the train station it is only a cosmetic issue. The tracks have to removed slightly away from the station so there is a gap between the platform and the passenger cab. (because the cab is 6 wide, and the space between the station and track has to be be 8 or 9 due to the engine)... Quote
Freddie Posted February 24, 2009 Posted February 24, 2009 I honestly do not see the problem. Sure, Emerald Night is wider than most trains we've seen yet (MOCs aside), but as long the train in the opposite track is 7-wide or less, there won't be a collision, ergo no problems. You'll need to have some distance between the intersecting sections of track and the train, sure, but that's the same case with all trains, especially longer cars that swing over other sections of track. Quote
pugsx3 Posted February 24, 2009 Posted February 24, 2009 Hey I am 95% Finished Building this from the pictures on lego and yes I can say the cab is 7 wide but the way they do it its more like 6.5 wide it is a great engine design and I am waiting on BBB order to try and push it with a 9 volt motor in the tender I will keep you posted . Quote
Captain Zuloo Posted February 25, 2009 Posted February 25, 2009 I will keep you posted . With images? Quote
Er!k Posted February 25, 2009 Posted February 25, 2009 I honestly do not see the problem. Sure, Emerald Night is wider than most trains we've seen yet (MOCs aside), but as long the train in the opposite track is 7-wide or less, there won't be a collision, ergo no problems.You'll need to have some distance between the intersecting sections of track and the train, sure, but that's the same case with all trains, especially longer cars that swing over other sections of track. I hope to clarify the issue with two pictures: These are the switching tracks I own: These are the new(er) switching tracks: Please notice the amount of space is bigger at the newer switching tracks, the older ones only allow a maximum width of 6. Quote
SavaTheAggie Posted February 25, 2009 Posted February 25, 2009 I hope to clarify the issue with two pictures:These are the switching tracks I own: These are the new(er) switching tracks: Please notice the amount of space is bigger at the newer switching tracks, the older ones only allow a maximum width of 6. Now I'm no rocketologist, but it seems to me that the maximum width of a train on the old switches would still be 8 (dragging against the other) or 7 wide (with one stud between). Besides, if the Emerald Night is the only non 6-wide train you own, there still won't be a problem, as there will be a full stud clearance between your 6-wides and the E Night. --Tony Quote
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