OptimusPrime12380 Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 thanks for sharing but with 2 hours cheaking i can con ferm that it most certanly is the flying scotsman the main one is what does it say on the tender (lnerhttp://www.lner.info/).(if some people didnt know we british like to name our trains over a spot of tea) thanks any way cb http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LNER_Class_A3...Flying_Scotsman I didn't say it was the exact locomotive, if you bothered to read the paragraph above the pic you'd notice I said I hope it's the real deal and would buy it because it REMINDS me of the one I've seen stateside at the Smithsonian. By the way, if you're going to correct people especially when it's absolutely unnecessary, you should start with your own grammer, hello spell checker. It's checking, not cheaking...It's confirm, not con ferm...It's certainly, not certanly... Maybe brits should read a dictionary over a spot of tea as well. Quote
Hinckley Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 I didn't say it was the exact locomotive, if you bothered to read the paragraph above the pic you'd notice I said I hope it's the real deal and would buy it because it REMINDS me of the one I've seen stateside at the Smithsonian. By the way, if you're going to correct people especially when it's absolutely unnecessary, you should start with your own grammer, hello spell checker. It's checking, not cheaking...It's confirm, not con ferm...It's certainly, not certanly... Maybe brits should read a dictionary over a spot of tea as well. Watch your attitude, Skywalker. That's completely unnecessary. He wasn't being rude, he spent two hours trying to help you. Quote
OptimusPrime12380 Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 (edited) Watch your attitude, Skywalker. That's completely unnecessary. He wasn't being rude, he spent two hours trying to help you. Not sure what about his post was helpful to me as you suggest. As for the attitude, seems like his post kind of started the whole "attitude" thing and I was just correcting him. So again, no where did I claim that this set is based off a particular locomotive. I did however say it REMINDED me of one I had seen at the Smithsonian and would therefore hope it is legit, being more inclined to purchase it. Also, from what I can tell I do agree that the set is an exact replica of the Flying Scotsman: However to me, the set also somewhat resembles the Ps-4s locomotive seen at the Smithsonian (or can be used to MOC this locomotive for us yanks ): Edited February 16, 2009 by OptimusPrime12380 Quote
Hinckley Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 Not sure what about his post was helpful to me as you suggest. As for the attitude, seems like his post kind of started the whole "attitude" thing and I was just correcting him. So again, no where did I claim that this set is based off a particular locomotive. I did however say it REMINDED me of one I had seen at the Smithsonian and would therefore hope it is legit, being more inclined to purchase it. Right right great. I didn't read the attitude from him and it's not your place to correct people. Sorry. Next time just use the "report" button instead of insulting. Thanks. Quote
OptimusPrime12380 Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 (edited) Right right great. I didn't read the attitude from him and it's not your place to correct people. Sorry. Next time just use the "report" button instead of insulting. Thanks. No problemo, now let's get back on topic and continue drooling over what a great set this could possibly be. Edited February 16, 2009 by OptimusPrime12380 Quote
Moose Posted February 17, 2009 Posted February 17, 2009 one thing i DO NOT like about this set is the engineer/conductor. boring. doesnt seem very train-y Quote
Pierre_Cochereau Posted February 17, 2009 Posted February 17, 2009 I sure hope it's real. A steam engine, especially one as detailed as this one, will bring some variety to the train world of any town layout. If there is a motor inluded in this set then about 110 Euros would be ok, that's right. But since TLG is going to release a motor seperately it's unlikely that there'll be one included in the Emerald Night set. Klaus-Dieter Well, TLG has released train motors separately before (e.g. 7865 and 10153), and nevertheless 12V trains (such as 7745) and 9V trains had motors already coming with them. My point is: The fact that TLC decides to release a motor unit separately does not necessarily mean that there will be no motor at all included in this set – if it's real. Rather, a separately released motor allows for motorizing MOCs, replacing broken motors, or simply adding a second motor unit to a train in order to give it more power to pull a larger number of train cars. – While I do not know whether or not a motor will be included in this set, judging from the fact alone that there will be a separate motor set I think one cannot argue for sure that there wouldn't be a motor included in the set. Quote
legotrainfan Posted February 17, 2009 Posted February 17, 2009 While I do not know whether or not a motor will be included in this set, judging from the fact alone that there will be a separate motor set I think one cannot argue for sure that there wouldn't be a motor included in the set. I find it pretty sure that no motor will be included. In the past few years, TLC has never released a non-beginner set with a motor. The steam locomotive 10205, Santa Fe engine 10020, and the BNSF engine 10133 all came without motors. If rails are included in this set, a motor will also be included, but it does not look as if it came with rails. Quote
Captain Zuloo Posted February 17, 2009 Posted February 17, 2009 I'm not fussed about rails, I'm a 9v man myself, so I would only be replacing a motor with a 9v one. So I would actually prefer it to come without a motor and track so the price isn't as high as it otherwise would be. And another thing that still makes me sceptical about this whole thing, is if this set is real, why has LEGO not stepped in and asked that the pictures be removed? Quote
Klaus-Dieter Posted February 17, 2009 Posted February 17, 2009 I sure hope it's real. A steam engine, especially one as detailed as this one, will bring some variety to the train world of any town layout. Well, TLG has released train motors separately before (e.g. 7865 and 10153), and nevertheless 12V trains (such as 7745) and 9V trains had motors already coming with them. My point is: The fact that TLC decides to release a motor unit separately does not necessarily mean that there will be no motor at all included in this set – if it's real. Rather, a separately released motor allows for motorizing MOCs, replacing broken motors, or simply adding a second motor unit to a train in order to give it more power to pull a larger number of train cars. – While I do not know whether or not a motor will be included in this set, judging from the fact alone that there will be a separate motor set I think one cannot argue for sure that there wouldn't be a motor included in the set. I totally agree with you, Pierre_Cochereau, since I did not say that there will surely be no motor included in this great set - but did say that I really doubt it. I mean: The price really would justify a motor. But that doesn't say anything. 110 Euros for the train with motor would be quite ok but 110 Euros only for the train would be really 30 Euros too expensive! I'm now even very sceptical about whether TLG will release a seperate passengar waggon at all since the set number 10195 is already used for SW. And imo it would have made much sense to release a seperate train car at about the same time like the train set itself so that people can in a short while add those seperate passenger waggons to the train set and so put together a whole train. So perhaps then in summer or fall - but I really don't know. I find it pretty sure that no motor will be included. In the past few years, TLC has never released a non-beginner set with a motor. The steam locomotive 10205, Santa Fe engine 10020, and the BNSF engine 10133 all came without motors. If rails are included in this set, a motor will also be included, but it does not look as if it came with rails. With the aspect that there were many single trains released which didn't include some tracks and so did even not include any motor you're right. But think about the Classic Train set which included a motor but no tracks. So hypothetically this might be the case here, too, although - like I already mentioned - I doubt it. And another thing that still makes me sceptical about this whole thing, is if this set is real, why has LEGO not stepped in and asked that the pictures be removed? I firstly thought that, too, but since it's only one and half a month until this great set will be released TLG seems to have nothing against showing it here (remember that we saw a lot of pics of the awesome 10193 Medieval Market Village in the middle of October - and it was firstly released after Christmas.). Klaus-Dieter Quote
legotrainfan Posted February 17, 2009 Posted February 17, 2009 But think about the Classic Train set which included a motor but no tracks. The Classic Train set 3225! You're totally right! It came with a motor and no tracks! I didn't think of this one... though I own it! For LEGO Express 4534 there wasn't an additional passenger car either; passenger wagon 10015 was identical to the one in that set, but it was green and not blue. Quote
Freddie Posted February 17, 2009 Posted February 17, 2009 True, but Medieval Market was officially unveiled in October, and not leaked out. That is not the case here. The reason for LEGO not asking for having the pictures taken down could be that it's simply too late to have any effect; it's pretty much spread to any website about LEGO - it's even talked about on LUGNET, and that's saying something. Quote
Pierre_Cochereau Posted February 17, 2009 Posted February 17, 2009 but did say that I really doubt it.Klaus-Dieter Yes, somehow my inner voice doubts it, too (yes, I hear voices ... kidding ). But to be honest, I'm really interested in this whole "flexible track" thing. So far nobody has more information on that, right? – I mean, if this really means that you get some sort of track that you can shape as you please (flexible curves etc.), then what material will it be made of? Surely it can't be the usual plastic because, well, you know, it'll break . So will it be some sort of rubber mantle with a metal wire core or what? I must say, the more I think of this issue, the more I doubt that "flexible track" means that you can bend and shape it ... maybe it means that the "traditional" track piece is discontinued and instead of your usual curved track piece, you get half of that piece so that you can make smoother curves ... I don't know ... but maybe tomorrow by this time, somebody has got more information, who knows ... Quote
BryanKinkel Posted February 17, 2009 Posted February 17, 2009 I'm now even very sceptical about whether TLG will release a seperate passengar waggon at all since the set number 10195 is already used for SW. And imo it would have made much sense to release a seperate train car at about the same time like the train set itself so that people can in a short while add those seperate passenger waggons to the train set and so put together a whole train.So perhaps then in summer or fall - but I really don't know. What would be nice is if they put the parts for the passenger wagon in the online PAB. Quote
dhaas06 Posted February 17, 2009 Posted February 17, 2009 I'm really interested in this whole "flexible track" thing... Any flexible track that I've seen for model railroading works based on the metal rails: one is firmly connected to the plastic ties, while the other rail can freely slide through the other side of the ties. Then there will be excess "free rail" on the ends which must be trimmed (depending on how much the rail is curved). So, I really have no idea how the concept would work with all-plastic Lego rails. Quote
MightySlickPancake Posted February 17, 2009 Posted February 17, 2009 sorry OptimusPrime12380. i cant spell. but like America had santa fe and its is time for them to model a british classic i cant wait t see whats next. cb Quote
Klaus-Dieter Posted February 17, 2009 Posted February 17, 2009 I once more surfed through this tpoic and found again: as this set really is not factory set. there is no rails and engine but fall to me that new parts used. I saw on the Internet that this set will cost around 110 euro if it is real. Imo this is a clear evidence that this train set will not include a motor (supposably "engine" for motor). Klaus-Dieter Quote
Freddie Posted February 17, 2009 Posted February 17, 2009 ...while the insider posted in the blog (earlier in this thread), that 10194 will feature it. It's words against words, KD. I guess we will see in about two-three months' time. Quote
sens1992 Posted February 17, 2009 Posted February 17, 2009 (edited) LOOKS LIKE EMERALD NIGHT IS FOR REAL. On the Canadian website of LEGO shop at home, under the theme section (for trains) the cover image is EMERALD NIGHT! Here is the image I cut from the website... It looks like you can't order it for now but it might just be for a couple of days! :-) Good News! Edited February 17, 2009 by sens1992 Quote
Hinckley Posted February 17, 2009 Posted February 17, 2009 Great news (posted once ) sens! I suppose this means it'll be available for pre-order very soon. I wonder what the release date is! Quote
sens1992 Posted February 17, 2009 Posted February 17, 2009 In response to Sinner asking we my I posted the info twice... Well, I am sorry I did but with all the excitement about Emerald Night, I wanted to make sure that most the members will know the good news. Sorry if it did offend you. Quote
Cale Posted February 18, 2009 Posted February 18, 2009 LOOKS LIKE EMERALD NIGHT IS FOR REAL. On the Canadian website of LEGO shop at home, under the theme section (for trains) the cover image is EMERALD NIGHT! Here is the image I cut from the website... It looks like you can't order it for now but it might just be for a couple of days! :-) Good News! Well dang. I guess I was wrong in thinking it's fake. And I'm very happy I was wrong too. This looks like a great set and I can't wait to own one. Cale Quote
Ricecracker Posted February 18, 2009 Posted February 18, 2009 Well for me, the train icon on the Canadian S@H website is back to the old cargo train. They might have accidentally put it up. Quote
BigOnBricks Posted February 18, 2009 Posted February 18, 2009 If you look at the LEGO Shop at Home site for the US, go to Shop > Theme and look at the picture under Trains. It is this train!! It isn't for sale on there but they are using that picture. Quote
Lego12 Posted February 18, 2009 Posted February 18, 2009 It's another hint from TLC. I knew it was real! I'll buy it..............if I can afford it....... Quote
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