Er!k Posted February 20, 2009 Posted February 20, 2009 I was thinking last night... I have some old rail tracks from the 80's (Train 7710 and Station 7824). Would the Emerald fit on these tracks? And how wide is the engine? If it is more than 6 wide it would not fit that great in my city. Anyone? Quote
Captain Zuloo Posted February 20, 2009 Posted February 20, 2009 The train will fot on your track, however it is 8 wide for the most part of the loco and some parts, I think 9 wide. Quote
Er!k Posted February 20, 2009 Posted February 20, 2009 The train will fot on your track, however it is 8 wide for the most part of the loco and some parts, I think 9 wide. Ok, that is good news... But too bad it is so wide... Quote
pe668 Posted February 20, 2009 Posted February 20, 2009 ....this train should be able to negotiate the sharp standard "L Gauge" radius Isn't all Lego train rails the same radius (4.5, 9, 12 and RC)?They would be crazy to release a train that didn't fit the track. Well there was the non-powered Hogwarts but it didn't have train wheels. But you're right Zuloo even the 8 wheeled tender has boggies so it should run fine. Quote
Captain Zuloo Posted February 20, 2009 Posted February 20, 2009 Isn't all Lego train rails the same radius (4.5, 9, 12 and RC)? Yeah, all LEGO track is (in theory) compatible with all other LEGO track. So I'm very curious as to all this talk of "flexible track". The whole compatability thing could well get thrown out with that. Anyway, We'll find out soon enough. Quote
Er!k Posted February 20, 2009 Posted February 20, 2009 I am wondering how TLC is going to implement the flexible tracks. Which materials are going to be used? If you bent the tracks too long I can imagine they will break. Quote
Klaus-Dieter Posted February 20, 2009 Posted February 20, 2009 (edited) Bad news: Since I now really wanted to now whether there's a motor included in this awesome set or not I telephoned the Lego customer's service this morning. The woman at the phone looked through the parts list and then told me that there'll be no motor included in this set. I feared that! So let's see which additional sets we'll get and how expensive they and the motor, the tracks, the RC and the rechargeable battery will be. When I know that and after having information on whether there'll be a great Tantive 4 set and a great Castle jubilee set I'll decide whether I'll buy the Emerald Night or not since I'll surely be only aible to buy maximum two of these three possible sets. Klaus-Dieter Edited February 20, 2009 by Klaus-Dieter Quote
SeaKing61 Posted February 20, 2009 Posted February 20, 2009 On Shop@Home the PF motors and IR reciever come up as related items when I view the Emerald Night's page, perhaps instructions will be included to motorise the locomotive. I'll definately be getting it even without a motor. I just hope tan train windows will be available on pick-a-brick, or perhaps it would be possible to buy the passenger carriage separately too? I don't think I could bear running a largo loco like that with just the one carriage Laurie Quote
kris kelvin Posted February 20, 2009 Posted February 20, 2009 Bad news:Since I now really wanted to now whether there's a motor included in this awesome set or not I telephoned the Lego customer's service this morning. The woman at the phone looked through the parts list and then told me that there'll be no motor included in this set. Comparing 10194 price with 10183 or with 7898 it was rather obvious that Emerald Night will not have any motor. Quote
Zorbas Posted February 20, 2009 Posted February 20, 2009 Is there any possibility that TLG has any intentions of releasing a new train station along with Emerald Night? A not-so-modernized station (from an architectural point of view) would be great. Quote
Cavannus Posted February 20, 2009 Posted February 20, 2009 (edited) About the rubber wheels: I'm sure that the motor will fit in the tender and that the rubber wheels allow the drive wheels to turn and animate the pistons. I don't see a motor in the engine itself; furthermore this is the easiest and the most flexible solution as I think a 9V motor could be implemented as well as the upcoming RC system. Doors: Well, I like these built doors: they make the construction more attractive. Actually I don't care. But I don't like the fact that there is no door on the carriage extremities (like on the Santa Fe engine & carriages); that makes it looking weird and less realistic in contrast with the rest of the train that is well detailed. About the set: I think they will sell additional carriages (as they did for the Santa Fe) and these should be compatible with other train sets as additions. By the way, does "flexible tracks" mean "compatible tracks", i.e. compatible with 9V or RC? Just a guess though... Edited February 20, 2009 by Cavannus Quote
legotrainfan Posted February 20, 2009 Posted February 20, 2009 By the way, does "flexible tracks" mean "compatible tracks", i.e. compatible with 9V or RC? Just a guess though... I think that those mysterious flexible tracks will be compatible with 9V/RC tracks. I mean the gauge of the wheels hasn't changed. So I don't think that TLC will discontinue the RC tracks. I believe that the flexible tracks will be an addition to the existing RC track sets. Quote
Bricks Posted February 20, 2009 Posted February 20, 2009 I'm very happy about such a great new train set. I thought TLC would stopp the production, but they will bring us one of the best train sets, ever. I really love the colour of the train, which looks like a new green, e.g. darker green (something like a special leave part have)? Great set and maybe soon mine... Greetings 'Bricks' Quote
Erdbeereis Posted February 20, 2009 Posted February 20, 2009 I'm very happy about such a great new train set. I thought TLC would stopp the production, but they will bring us one of the best train sets, ever. I really love the colour of the train, which looks like a new green, e.g. darker green (something like a special leave part have)? Great set and maybe soon mine... Greetings 'Bricks' The green is dark green, which has been in quite a few sets lately (especially in Indiana Jones.), so it's nothing new. That being said, it's still a lovely color and it's great that we'll be able to acquire more. Quote
pugsx3 Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 I have been building this model as best I can with the pictures on lego I have done 80% of it and need to say it is a great build so far the cab is 7 studs wide while the boiler is only 6 wide it uses alot of wedge plates found in the small 5$ car sets not the big escape pod pieces I originally tried using Quote
Minifig Lecturer Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 Seems very good for an official set. Sure beats the recent trains which were pretty bad. Quote
Klaus-Dieter Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 (edited) I think that those mysterious flexible tracks will be compatible with 9V/RC tracks. I mean the gauge of the wheels hasn't changed. So I don't think that TLC will discontinue the RC tracks. I believe that the flexible tracks will be an addition to the existing RC track sets. You gave me an idea, legotrainfan: I could well imagine the Flexible Tracks being not a new kind of tracks which shall detach the RC tracks. But couldn't Flexible Tracks mean that these are some kinds of tracks which act as connecter between different types of tracks (so that you e. g. could build up a train layout with a circle of 9V and RC tracks or RC tracks and 12V tracks)? Because imo it wouldn't make much sense to release new tracks which shall detach the RC tracks since the new PF motors are based on battery power, too, and so need no "electric tracks" (like e. g. 9V tracks). If so we have to await only a very little set of tracks which could e. g. include two flexible tracks. What do you think? Klaus-Dieter Edited February 21, 2009 by Klaus-Dieter Quote
Captain Zuloo Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 I could well imagine the Flexible Tracks being not a new kind of tracks which shall detach the RC tracks. But couldn't Flexible Tracks mean that these are some kinds of tracks which act as connecter between different types of tracks (so that you e. g. could build up a train layout with a circle of 9V and RC tracks or RC tracks and 12V tracks)? I'm not sure I follow. How could any sort of connecter tracks make it possible for a 9V train to operate on RC tracks? Or have I got the wrong idea completely? Quote
Klaus-Dieter Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 I'm not sure I follow. How could any sort of connecter tracks make it possible for a 9V train to operate on RC tracks? Or have I got the wrong idea completely? You in principle understood me right. It's clear that a 9V motorised train can not drive on RC tracks. But backwards it would be possible: a RC train running on 9V tracks. Klaus-Dieter Quote
legotrainfan Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 But couldn't Flexible Tracks mean that these are some kinds of tracks which act as connecter between different types of tracks (so that you e. g. could build up a train layout with a circle of 9V and RC tracks or RC tracks and 12V tracks)? Klaus Dieter, I'm not sure if I understand your idea correctly... 9V and RC tracks can already be linked; the connecting mechanism is the same. I highly doubt that you can link the old 12V tracks with the flexible tracks. I think the new flexible tracks are being produced so we train nuts are able to create different curved radiuses. Quote
Captain Zuloo Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 Klaus Dieter, I'm not sure if I understand your idea correctly... 9V and RC tracks can already be linked; the connecting mechanism is the same. I highly doubt that you can link the old 12V tracks with the flexible tracks. I think the new flexible tracks are being produced so we train nuts are able to create different curved radiuses. I'm going to agree with that - there is nothing stopping us running RC trains on 9V tracks now, they are the exact same width. Although I'm still stumped as to what flexible track is all about. But I guess we'll find out soon enough eh? Quote
Rick Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 (edited) Although flexibility in creating corners seems the most likely interpretation of 'flexible tracks', I still have my doubts about Lego releasing tracks that almost inevitably must be cut (or have they thought out something really clever which avoids this?) if you put them in a certain radius (unless you make identical left and right turns, but that won't get you 'round'). This would go against the reusability of every element, which is at the heart of Lego's philosophy. Is 'flexible' the term used by the source of this news or is it a translation from another language (I think I remember it came from a Swedish source), i.e., could it be a translation issue (which seems to be suggested above)? Edited February 21, 2009 by Rick77 Quote
Klaus-Dieter Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 Well, supposably you're all right. It was only a thought ... But nevertheless I'm really wondering how TLG designs these tracks in the way that they're flexible. Perhaps similar to the functions in the tracks switchs. So supposably they'll be much more expensive than the regular tracks. I even ask myself if we need some flexible tracks. But supposably with that large locomotive in this awesome set they're necesary since the regular curved rails would have a too small radius - or am I here wrong, too? Anyway I can't wait until March the 28th when we'll see with which additional train sets TLG will surprise us! Klaus-Dieter Quote
Darth_Legois Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 About the rubber wheels:I'm sure that the motor will fit in the tender and that the rubber wheels allow the drive wheels to turn and animate the pistons. I don't see a motor in the engine itself; furthermore this is the easiest and the most flexible solution as I think a 9V motor could be implemented as well as the upcoming RC system. Doors: Well, I like these built doors: they make the construction more attractive. Actually I don't care. But I don't like the fact that there is no door on the carriage extremities (like on the Santa Fe engine & carriages); that makes it looking weird and less realistic in contrast with the rest of the train that is well detailed. About the set: I think they will sell additional carriages (as they did for the Santa Fe) and these should be compatible with other train sets as additions. By the way, does "flexible tracks" mean "compatible tracks", i.e. compatible with 9V or RC? Just a guess though... I agree about the doors I dont like them or hate them really... I think another carriage would be great but the price would be to much [especially AUD] Maybe if they sell another Carriage or 2 seperately? The green is dark green, which has been in quite a few sets lately (especially in Indiana Jones.), so it's nothing new. That being said, it's still a lovely color and it's great that we'll be able to acquire more. I like the dark green, it looks good Im abit disapointed it only seats 4 minifigs though... Quote
Klaus-Dieter Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 I agree about the doors I dont like them or hate them really...I think another carriage would be great but the price would be to much [especially AUD] Maybe if they sell another Carriage or 2 seperately? I like the dark green, it looks good I bet that they'll sell a seperate carriage, too. The dark green is indeed a great color. I hope that TLG will use it in more City sets in the future - a forester's or hunter's jeep in dark green would be great, don't you think?! Im abit disapointed it only seats 4 minifigs though... Do you mean that the carriage only includes seats for 4 minifigs or do you mean that there are only 4 minifigs in this set? Because: There are regrettably only three minifigs in this set! Klaus-Dieter Quote
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