Brickbeard's Bounty Vs Red Beard Runner

[Dreamweb]

I'm curious to know which one of these two you prefer. I think they're good for comparison because they're both about the same size (two middle sections, wide hulls - there were no other pirate-themed ships with those parameters), and - let's not forget about it - Brickbeard's Bounty can be considered Red Beard Runner's direct successor - there were no other big System Pirate ships released between those two.

So please tell us which one you prefer and why...

6289 Red Beard Runner:

6243 Brickbeard's Bounty:

Edited February 19, 2009 by Dreamweb

[El Bucanero]

I do not have a copy of Brickbeard'' Bounty yet, so I can't judge properly or vote yet, but as of now, I think I like Brickbeards Bounty better.

First of all, the colour scheme is a lot more appealing and I assume it is also more realistic. The sails are also positioned in a more realistic way. Besides, the Bounty has got a proper cabin where the Red Beard runner has the silly collapsing system

On the other hand, The Red Beard Runner still has got a slight bit of that classic feeling the Bounty doesn't have, despite the last one being quite similar to the Black Seas Barracuda.

But perhaps my opinion will be 160% different when I own a Brickbeard's Bounty anyway.

[Fluyt]

Red Beard Runner is by far the best of the 2.

I actually like the sails, because they're "battleworn" and are the only ones that are. They are less childish than BB's sails, even thought both have a skull and crossbones on them, RBR's looks a lot better/badass, and the grey/white/black sails are an appealing colour combination.

The rigging on RBR is better, I mean, it has better rope ladders+ it has actual rigging with ropes, which the BB lacks completely (unless you can call those chains rigging) and the masts of BB suck.

BB does have a more realistic colour-scheme, but unfortunately it is the frown colour (dark brown would be a lot better), and also the "log"-bricks do not look good on a ship (at least not in this fashion). RBR's colour scheme isn't that realistic, but is fairly pleasing to the eye. BB looks nearly attrocious in design, very empty, sterncastle is too high and the whole masts/sails "thing" (you can't really call it rigging) is horrible. The cannon on the sterncastle isn't working in BB's favour either.

BB does have some imperials to fight, which the RBR lacks, but it does cut in the crew for the ship, come on, 4 crew for a ship that size? RBR has more weapons per minifig, if I recall correctly, and could do a 4 cannon broadside if you added another cannon, versus the 2 (or 3) cannon broadside of BB and underarmed crew.

Edited February 19, 2009 by Fluyt

[Lorentzen]

I really think that Red Beard Runner is almost awful to look at - Brickbeard's Bounty however is a real beauty. The only thing bad about it is the big childish skull on the sails, but that can easily be replaced.

Red Beard Runner is difficult to change into something good looking, and for me, it's a totally unnecessary feature to have the sails and masts break... there's so many things in the design that they could have done much much better, and the colour scheme is terrible. But I'd love to own the ship so I could spend a lot of time rebuilding it

[Bicoku]

Sorry but I don't know english very well. Red Bred Runner take my vote. I think that the old sets are better then the new sets. I don't like the new gold color elements and the new pirates faces, I don't like the new elements like mastes, shark etc. I dont like the new color of the guns, the new map etc ect. I dont suport the way that lego used to combinate the elements.

Edited February 19, 2009 by Bicoku

[Commodore Hornbricker]

Bounty all the way. I think it is second only to the BSB in terms of beauty/design. There isn't much that I like about the RBR. I like the battle damaged sails but the rest is just plain ugly. The new style masts on the Bounty are weak and the newstyle cartoon sails have always bothered me. I don't understand why TLC doesn't include extra sails with cannons or the Imperial flag when it does this. It increases playability by a factor of 100% and they are so focused on that it seems.

[seahawkeye]

I’ve never seen RBR in the flesh but from the picture it looks pretty ugly.

There’s only one sail on each mast and they sit up there way too high. The white/yellow combo on the forecastle is fried-egg ugly. The whole stern is over-decorated with that mess of gangly white blobs - those big white curves look like bits of Mars Mission flung backwards through time. And the break-apart nature of the whole thing is strange and counter-intuitive – Lego already comes apart! If kids want to ‘sink’ it they already can, they don’t need TLG to tell them how to do it!

The Bounty, on the other hand, is IMHO magnificent. It’s beautiful to look at, it’s fun and easy to disassemble and decorate, and I find it deeply evocative of history and the sea in ways that its predecessors simply aren’t. The minifigs fit the ship’s colour palette perfectly and the rest of the supporting cast (soldiers, maiden, monkey, shark) have inspired a lot of play in our house.

I know many of you think the Skull & Crossbones looks a bit childish but I’ve found that it's great in a family context. Other deficiences, like no anchor and no gaff & main boom over the poop, can be addressed creatively because it’s Lego. Similarly, I’ve already filled the cabin with new fittings and furniture – the Captain travels in style!

Love the new.

[General Armendariz]

This was a good fight! But in the end the red beard runner wins; so much figures!

And better color scheme

[Captain Blackmoor]

That's difficult to say, I haven't the BB yet but I know it contains some great pieces which the RR has not. But I have the RR and it's rigging is much more better then the BB.

The RR has been (and still is) a great set to have.

[Captain Green Hair]

Brickbeards bounty for me, the redbeard runner never appealed to me.

The BB comes with much nicer parts, a complete sail plan, the colorscheme is much nicer and the new figs are just plain awesome.

The only advantage the RR has over the BB are the masts, the yards made out of rigid hose on the BB are pretty crappy and don't say straight very well.

[Dreamweb]

For me, Brickbeard's Bounty is way better than Red Beard Runner. The RBR looks incomplete and even silly in some places. The BB on the other hand was a good ship to re-introduce the Pirate theme, has a lot of nice decorative elements, nice colours, great minifigs. I'm not a fan of its sails though, I think that might be the only (or one of very few) things that look better in the RBR, then again, the RBR looks like it's missing at least 3 sails...

[Rick]

For me, Brickbeard's Bounty is way better than Red Beard Runner. The RBR looks incomplete and even silly in some places. The BB on the other hand was a good ship to re-introduce the Pirate theme, has a lot of nice decorative elements, nice colours, great minifigs. I'm not a fan of its sails though, I think that might be the only (or one of very few) things that look better in the RBR, then again, the RBR looks like it's missing at least 3 sails...

Agreed, and furthermore RBR has no proper cabin. BB's problems are the design of the masts (flextube), the sails, and the lack of an anchor, but color scheme is so much better than RBR.

[Dreamweb]

BB's problems are the design of the masts (flextube), the sails, and the lack of an anchor

RBR also lacks an achor so is in no way superior in this matter.

[Big Cam]

Although I don't own either, I do own a Black Seas Barracuda and so I have to stick with the new version, to me LEGO pirates will always have red sales.

[Captain Roger]

Hi mates:

I wonder which of this 2 three cannon pirate ships is better.

In my opinion:

RBR has better sails, because BB's sails are too childish and really awfull. 1 point to RBR

BB has better stern, with a really nice and spacious cabin, while RBR has no real cabin for the captain. 1 point to BB

BB has better cannon system: RBR cannons aren't mobile...they are fixed in the floor of the deck, while BB deck cannons have wheels and can move to the other side. 1 point to BB

RBR Jolly Roger is cooler than BB. 1 point to RBR

RBR have less realistic sail system due to the collapse mechanism of the masts. 1 Point to BB

BB:3

RBR:2

So I prefer BB to RBR, but...what do you think?

Photos:

Red Beard Runner:

Brickbeards bounty:

Edited October 8, 2011 by Captain Roger

[Sebeus I]

One thing; red bear runner looks cooler and tougher than BB, (in my opinion )

I just looked at both ship in their totality and so I must choose the RBR.

[Sir E Fullner]

I prefer the Brickbeard Bounty. Mostly because it isn't as awkward as RBR, plus it can easily be converted into an Imperial ship.

[Skipper]

Could you put some pictures in the first post so it's easier to compare?

Aesthetically, the Bounty has the advantage of newer pieces and colors, which are most apparent on the stern - the combination of dark red and pearl gold is luscious. However her newness has also hurt her - with an exposed hull and pieces that do the work of many (such as the railings in front, curve pieces up to the cabin, etc. ) she looks very <insert that tiresome argument>. But that horse is already dead so I won't beat it any more.

My opinion of the RBR has changed a lot since reading Brickverson's review. Some of the designs that I once thought were ugly are actually quite clever, such as the stern skull and cabin side windows. The sails are great as well, the ripped effect is swell and the skull and crossbones much more fearsome than the Bounty's. However many sections are a mishmash of parts that doesn't deserve to be the last big classic pirate ship.

In a battle, I think it would just come down to who was the better captain - they're pretty evenly matched in manpower and broadside.

In the end I voted for the Red Beard Runner, but it was a pretty close match because neither particularly stands out to me.

Edited October 8, 2011 by Skipper

[Captain Roger]

Could you put some pictures in the first post so it's easier to compare?

Ok, photos added

Thanks to all of you for your replies

[Siegfried]

Ok, photos added

Thanks to all of you for your replies

...as it turns out this has been asked before so I've merged the topics.

[Captain Roger]

Sorry for repeating thread. I didn't know it has been asked before.

In any case, i have voted again for BB, now in this topic.

[Yeow]

I own both ships, and I feel that the RBR is superior to the BB. Despite it's collapsing masts and "exploding" deck, the RBR feels like a much sturdier model that the BB does. It feels a lot lighter as well, which is due to the fact that RBR has approximately 100 more pieces. The RBR can also carry a total of 8 cannons, two of which can sit at a higher level than the ones in the picture.

The one thing that bugged me the most about the BB is how the sails are held into place. It utilizes a brown cone that sits at the end of a technic hose/pipe, and has a tendency to pop off if you hit it.

[Big Cam]

...as it turns out this has been asked before so I've merged the topics.

Haha, that's makes sense, I was reading this after the fact and a bit confused.

[Cpt. Tristan]

Well, I must say the cabin, decals, and new colors of the BB appeal to me....

~Cpt. Tristan

[Captain Becker]

I like them both. RBR Sail system annoys me also very much, but otherly than that, the ship is just great! Playbility, colours and minifigs are great! Too bad that i wont own any 1900`s Lego Pirates sets.

BB: has weak sail system and the ship interior is empty. No stairs leading to the Poopdeck or bow. But the colours and the overall looksare good, plus we get two soldiers this time, but the number of the pirates iss just ridiculously low.

RBR rudder is workig while BB`s not. Colour schemes of the ships are great, BB`s much re simplier, but maby a bit more realistic, and RBR has unique mixture of Red, yellow, white, black and blue. So i say both are equal for me.

Captain Becker