You will not believe what LEGO said to me!

[martinsuper]

It would be pretty bad if they took advice from us the world would be in pain

Anyways you tried your hardest to help!

Well maybe they could take pictures of some sets and then photoshop them and release those pictures to us to get us all excited. What do you think?

P.S. Im never letting you live that one down, because you had me all depressed about my army size.

[Guss]

Martinsuper, I didn't think you're a black ship, your reaction to their letter in understandable, but I think that for a big company like TLG, it's normal to answer like this.

It's just that your way of answering them is a little "hard", I think the good way to ask, as example, for the big imperial ship, is to ask an ambassador, I don't know the " power " of ambassadors, but I think they exist to serve this purpose.

anyway, I'm curious to see what they'll answer to you know, if they do answer. ^^

But that's right that some blue 32x32 plates would be nice!

[AwesomeStar]

In response to Guss, if you really want that ship to me produced by Lego, but don't think they'll bother if you ask an Ambassador because of your letter, you can always fake your name?

"... Sincerely, Dr. Alexander Poporvsky..."

~A.S.

[martinsuper]

Martinsuper, I didn't think you're a black ship, your reaction to their letter in understandable, but I think that for a big company like TLG, it's normal to answer like this.

It's just that your way of answering them is a little "hard", I think the good way to ask, as example, for the big imperial ship, is to ask an ambassador, I don't know the " power " of ambassadors, but I think they exist to serve this purpose.

anyway, I'm curious to see what they'll answer to you know, if they do answer. ^^

But that's right that some blue 32x32 plates would be nice!

Guss, I know you are right. But "black sheep" is my badge of honor now. It has to be! Eh, well... Its more of a laughing point now more than anything. I mean, lets break this down into its core elements:

I'm 27.

I'm an executive.

I'm angry about LEGOs.

That's pretty funny, isn't it?

As for baseplates. I'm going to work on getting just those for now. We can worry about sets at some other time.

-Super

[Guss]

martinsuper My title is not better :P

and I'm sometimes angry about Legos too... when something don't work as I want.. I even saw my girlfriend cry while trying to make something with lego, she's 28, web developer !

so you're one year older than me and... what's an executive? ^^my translator tells me that you're a "cadre" ... well, that makes sense!

I'm impressed that you understood what I wrote... it prove that my English skill is increasing yay ! *Guss is proud of him*

anyway, back to the topic, I need an imperial ship too... why didn't I build it myself ? I need it as excuse to buy more legos!

[martinsuper]

martinsuper My title is not better :P

and I'm sometimes angry about Legos too... when something don't work as I want.. I even saw my girlfriend cry while trying to make something with lego, she's 28, web developer !

so you're one year older than me and... what's an executive? ^^my translator tells me that you're a "cadre" ... well, that makes sense!

I'm impressed that you understood what I wrote... it prove that my English skill is increasing yay ! *Guss is proud of him*

anyway, back to the topic, I need an imperial ship too... why didn't I build it myself ? I need it as excuse to buy more legos!

Executive: Highest ranker member of an organization that reports only to the board of directors. All other employees report to the executive.

As for a big imperial ship. I'll add it to my build list, which looks like this now.

1. Harbor entrance

2. Main fort

3. Harbor

4. The building I work in

5. Historical ship recreation (top secret)

6. Imperial Flag Ship

[nearlynormal]

I mean this in a light-hearted way, but I don't know that I'd be taking the rude response you sent to LEGO as a sign you're a black sheep, and certainly not as any kind of badge of honor that you disagree with the realities of this situation. You got angry (we all do) at having your suggestions essentially ignored (for reasons everyone has already beaten to death), but you may want to strive to move in the opposite direction in the future if you want to be heard and get the things you are requesting. After all, kind words do not cost much, yet they accomplish much.

But the purpose of this post isn't to spew platitudes nor harp on you any further, but rather to express appreciation for the way you subsequently handled all the criticisms in here with humor. I'm new to this forum and I usually get tired and give up on so many other forums because they become giant combative ego fests with everyone taking themselves far too seriously. I found it pleasantly remarkable that you could identify the situation for itself: you are an adult executive getting angry about LEGO. Anyone that can laugh at themselves when being criticized is okay in my book.

Hopefully, we can all channel this into constructive means to get the grand Imperial ship we've been waiting for.

[AwesomeStar]

The guy above me is a genius.

The slogan above me is on my tee-shirt.

All joking aside, I agree. Though to be honest, new members! If you want a title call yourself a colored farm animal! Its the way to go!

~A.S.

[Tordenskjold]

got the same kind of answer from lego when i wrote to them, but a while ago i asked in a mail why there was no cows or animals beside a horse , like if someone want to build a farm, all farms would then be with horses and perhaps a dog. and now i see a cow in a set . dont think thats because of me, but what if a developer at lego by a chance read my mail and then he got the idea of the farm set . i like to think that *selfdiggind *

[nearlynormal]

The guy above me is a genius.

The slogan above me is on my tee-shirt.

All joking aside, I agree. Though to be honest, new members! If you want a title call yourself a colored farm animal! Its the way to go!

~A.S.

AwesomeStar, are you saying that you own a t-shirt that says "The guy above me is a genius"? That can be read as either kindly religious or downright scandalous.

But if you were referring to me, then yes, I am a genius. And I have the t-shirts to prove it.

And I initially was going for Periwinkleblueholstein for my title. I now regret my choice.

[Alice]

Alice, I know all about bricklink. It sucks a couple hundred dollars out of me every month. No one on bricklink has 30 32x32 basepates for me to buy....

LEGO would if they made them.

As for my "whining", I just have started to settle down from this whole thing, so I'll just pretend you didn't say it.

martinsuper, There is a seller who has 23 32x32 blue baseplates for you to buy... http://www.bricklink.com/store.asp?p=legoc...itemID=12021448

I guess you could buy 7 (as there are several sellers with 8 or more) from someone else and then you would have 30.

[jifel]

I can understand Martin and Legos views, although you were acting like you were smarter than them, (HINT: not a good way to convince someone.)! Although, an imperial flagship would be nice...

jifel

[martinsuper]

martinsuper, There is a seller who has 23 32x32 blue baseplates for you to buy... http://www.bricklink.com/store.asp?p=legoc...itemID=12021448

I guess you could buy 7 (as there are several sellers with 8 or more) from someone else and then you would have 30.

Wow! A woman after my own heart! Too bad Im already engaged! LOL, Thanks for the info! Im placing a very large (and damaging to my wallet) bricklink order next thursday, I might talk to that gentlemen.

My ONLY point Im making is that if LEGO made them, we wouldnt have to spend $12 a piece, ya know?

[AwesomeStar]

Wow! A woman after my own heart! Too bad Im already engaged! LOL, Thanks for the info! Im placing a very large (and damaging to my wallet) bricklink order next thursday, I might talk to that gentlemen.

My ONLY point Im making is that if LEGO made them, we wouldnt have to spend $12 a piece, ya know?

I agree, Mr B. Sheep, $12 a piece is really quite annoying, but not SO bad, I guess...

[Captain Green Hair]

I tend to stay away form things like this.

Basically they said thank you for sharing your thoughts, and if they see anything good in 'm they will certainly take them in consideration. The legal part is a must in these letters i think. (Legal departments suck, but are needed).

Lego provides us the bricks, so you can make an Imperial flagship as big as you like.

Lego is about building stuff, prefferably without the plans.

So i really don't get the point in asking for sets....

Hope to see you build your dreamship some time man.

[gogobig]

Martin, way to go mate. I absolutely loved your response and passion about it. It makes a complete sense, shows that you know what you want, and that you have balls. Serisously, I feel you man because I feel the exact same way. I am a huge castle and pirate fan, but dont buy every product because some of them are useless and even poorly designed.

As far as their policy, they should have a requirenment for every lego idea submitted that states something in the line of "I give lego all licesing purposes and will not ask for any royalties or harm them legally."Something in that line that would still protect them. Look at Toyota, they have been listening to consumers and employees for the past 30 years and look at them going, still. Its a simple logic-give consumers what they want.

[Capt. Kirk]

... they should have a requirenment for every lego idea submitted that states something in the line of "I give lego all licesing purposes and will not ask for any royalties or harm them legally."Something in that line that would still protect them.

--> If you give TLC an idea what do you think you gone say afterwards when TLC use it... hé it's my idea.

--> It's not that simple to claim your rights on "an idea"... is rather vague.

--> Even if you have the design, dimensions of the design, ect on paper.

--> Don't forget & most important... you using TLC parts for your design and who ownes this right.

--> Why some of you think this has something to do with royalties ect ?

--> Otherwise Playmobil can accuse TLC because they also have a pirate line and use also a ship ect.

--> With other words your history before you enter the court.

Its a simple logic-give consumers what they want.

--> Said with no offence but a simple logic deserves a simple answer.

--> So if you have 100 consumers and 10 consumers ask for something... you gone make it ?

--> Example: if 100 people on the world want a Lego whale... TLC must make it ?

--> That's not how it works.

--> Their are 2 ways of selling a produckt:

1) you create the market... but that's a gamble of failure or success.

2) you give what the market want... but the demand must be reasonable to make profit.

[blueandwhite]

Martin, as an executive surely you appreciate that the firm or group that you work for must adhere to a strict set of legal standards. LEGO was simply sending out a standard form letter in order to protect its corporate interests. I don't want to belittle you, but very few ideas are particularly original. In this respect, your (or anybody else's) suggestions to LEGO are more of a liability than anything else. What LEGO doesn't want is for a fan to preceive that they were the catylist for the development of a new theme or idea when in all likelihood the idea is so derivative that it has been thrown around by the designers as well. Honestly, if LEGO produced a Steampunk theme alot of AFOLs would undoubtedly claim to be a driving force behind it despite the very idea being a huge staple in popular fiction. The same could be said of a Roman theme or any number of licences LEGO inevitably decides to persue.

If LEGO were to thank you for your suggestions, it would be tantamount to giving you credit for any future line. From a legal standpoint, this thank you letter would be something of a smoking gun if you were to bring legal action against LEGO for the creation of a specific line. Simply put; LEGO needs to be extremely careful when consulting fans for their ideas. This is why they've gone to such great lengths with the Ambassador program. There are certainly ways for fans to bring their ideas to the LEGO group, however a direct letter isn't one of them.

[gogobig]

--> If you give TLC an idea what do you think you gone say afterwards when TLC use it... hé it's my idea.

--> It's not that simple to claim your rights on "an idea"... is rather vague.

--> Even if you have the design, dimensions of the design, ect on paper.

--> Don't forget & most important... you using TLC parts for your design and who ownes this right.

What are you talking about here???!!? Your first statement contradicts with other three. Who is talking about claiming rights??

--> With other words your history before you enter the court. Again what? I really do not understand where are you going with all this.

--> Said with no offence but a simple logic deserves a simple answer.

--> So if you have 100 consumers and 10 consumers ask for something... you gone make it ?

--> Example: if 100 people on the world want a Lego whale... TLC must make it ?

--> That's not how it works.

Oookkk...Im pretty sure that in past 10-20 years many pirate fans criticized lego for not making Imperial ship comparable to BSB or SES. You really did not pick up on that one??? It is like Medieval Market Place. Many people complained about it and wanted to see more peasant life or ordinary things in castle's line. Poof. There goes MMP and it is a total hit. What makes you think that Imerial ship wouldnt be just like it?

--> Their are 2 ways of selling a produckt:

1) you create the market... but that's a gamble of failure or success.

2) you give what the market want... but the demand must be reasonable to make profit.

Hahaha! I am sorry but I have nothing else to do but laugh here. This is what I and Martin said. You really see no relevance in your last thing and what we have been talking about. hahaha! wow!

[martinsuper]

Really?

We are still talking about this? I guess Im glad some people are joining the black sheep clan! But can we just let this whole thing drop already!?

Honestly, I have given up on LEGO giving me what I want and that is why Im just going to take the advice I have been given and build my own ship.