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I propose we discuss those bootleg LEGOs of somewhat original design that are still crush-worthy for being illegal, but should have their creators located and given jobs in LEGO because their designs happen to actually have quality... Not a lot, but still some quality.

Personally I like whoever designed this "Panzer" here: http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=1804299

An internet friend of mine who's into WW2 tells me that the star-in-circle logo is wrong though.

And in other news, here is some Russian BIONICLE:

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=259516

I showed it to my aforementioned friend and she said "Comrades! It be BIONICLEs! It's either this or the gulag!". I lol'd.

And no drama please, thank you.

EDIT:

Look! Someone made LEGOs of CAPCOM's Strider game!: http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/ToaTafin...eg/bootleg2.bmp

WIN.

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Well there have been a couple threads on this topic, but I'll take the time here to give you a bit of an education. A few things you should know.

1) Brick based sets compatible with LEGO are NOT illegal. This has been upheld by international courts

2) Copying set designs is Illegal.

3) Brands like Oxford, Megabloks, and others who don't copy LEGO set designs are not Illegal. Korean company Oxford, for example has such high quality bricks and designs, that it is copied by clone companies from China like Sluban.

4) LEGO did not invent the interlocking brick. Hillary Page and his Kiddicraft company did, and LEGO used their patented ideas without compensation. Hillary page died in the 50's before finding out that LEGO had stolen his designs, LEGO then added the internal tubes, then bought the kiddicraft patents in the 80's while they were trying to sue Tyco. It's a long story, check out the Megabloks thread for more info.

5) Brands like Brick/Shifty/Enlighten and Sluban make most of their money selling illegal copies of actual LEGO sets

Sorry that this has been posted before, but this is one of those recurring topics that it's best to address as soon as it comes up.

Now that that's out of the way, I'd like to suggest that LEGO hire whoever is designing sets for Oxford. Their military, adventure-ish, future military, ancient Korea and city sets are brilliant. They are really the one non-LEGO brick company that I would purchase alot of if they were available in the USA. It's a big website, but it's worth the time to look through it. http://www.oxfordtoy.co.kr/eng/

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Well there have been a couple threads on this topic, but I'll take the time here to give you a bit of an education. A few things you should know.

1) Brick based sets compatible with LEGO are NOT illegal. This has been upheld by international courts

2) Copying set designs is Illegal.

3) Brands like Oxford, Megabloks, and others who don't copy LEGO set designs are not Illegal. Korean company Oxford, for example has such high quality bricks and designs, that it is copied by clone companies from China like Sluban.

4) LEGO did not invent the interlocking brick. Hillary Page and his Kiddicraft company did, and LEGO used their patented ideas without compensation. Hillary page died in the 50's before finding out that LEGO had stolen his designs, LEGO then added the internal tubes, then bought the kiddicraft patents in the 80's while they were trying to sue Tyco. It's a long story, check out the Megabloks thread for more info.

5) Brands like Brick/Shifty/Enlighten and Sluban make most of their money selling illegal copies of actual LEGO sets

Sorry that this has been posted before, but this is one of those recurring topics that it's best to address as soon as it comes up.

Now that that's out of the way, I'd like to suggest that LEGO hire whoever is designing sets for Oxford. Their military, adventure-ish, future military, ancient Korea and city sets are brilliant. They are really the one non-LEGO brick company that I would purchase alot of if they were available in the USA. It's a big website, but it's worth the time to look through it. http://www.oxfordtoy.co.kr/eng/

Well, then it looks like I made an oopsie with this thread... Does the Strider one still count as a "bootleg"? It's got a LEGO imitator logo and I don't know whether it really has the rights to make those Strider sets from Capcom... that and it has minifigs just like LEGO's.

How about those Russian BIONICLEs?

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I think I have some of those OXFORD brick products, I'm not entirely sure but Wilkinsons in the UK has them at christmas, they may be repackaged for the UK market. The gun design is the same, as are the figures and the stickers have Korean characters. They are really good quality, I have a Police Boat and a Riot Van. because they are rather cheap and the guns are decent quality. Plus the handcuffs are non lego but fit, so I can cut them to make watches/bracelets/wrist mounted weapons for my minifigs.

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I must say that I love Bionicle bootlegs! Just look at these pieces!

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This mask is win!

I have this one. He is caled "Energy".

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I must say, they looks good, their quality is good too, and design is really amazing for a fake sets.

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Well, then it looks like I made an oopsie with this thread... Does the Strider one still count as a "bootleg"? It's got a LEGO imitator logo and I don't know whether it really has the rights to make those Strider sets from Capcom... that and it has minifigs just like LEGO's.

How about those Russian BIONICLEs?

The strider probably isn't a bootleg, since it's not a copy of a lego set. Also, if it ever existed, it's long out of print. However, if the Russian Bionicles copy LEGO sets, or lego patented parts (alot of new parts are likely patented by LEGO) then they would be illegal bootlegs.

No "oopise" just a chance to learn more about the darker side of the brick... :devil:

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Does the Strider one still count as a "bootleg"? It's got a LEGO imitator logo and I don't know whether it really has the rights to make those Strider sets from Capcom... that and it has minifigs just like LEGO's.

I'm pretty sure the Strider thing was just fan art. :wink:

Btw, if you like that, then you will love this! :grin:

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Unfortunatelly they are not... partly... The Ball Joints and Ball Sockets are smaller than original ones, but pins and axles and weapons fit perfectly.

Darn! and that rakhshi look-alike looked like such a must-buy.

Anyone seen any more BIONICLE bootlegs? I think there was a full website... Somewhere...

And do those pieces on the bootlegs LoD posted look strangely like CGI/movie versions of their corresponding legit BIONICLE pieces.

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I have seen KKII figure bootlegs. Apart from dodgy quality plastic and a head that refused to stay on, they were ok. My brother bought one as he missed the official lego ones.

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I have seen KKII figure bootlegs. Apart from dodgy quality plastic and a head that refused to stay on, they were ok. My brother bought one as he missed the official lego ones.

KK? Oh you mean Knights Kingdom

I think I saw one that had Malaysian or some related moonspeak all over the package at a store I visit- It sometimes carries 2001 BIONICLE sets (real ones!).

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Knights Kingdom. there was a Vladek like figure and a Rascus type figure. the shields had dragons and they nad exo-force sword blads in chrome. They were very cheap and were in a newsagents/beach brik-a-brak shop in Cornwall. I haven't seen them anywhere else.

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Thanks for that link! I didn't realize that RC was still doing the weekly fails. The brand of sets he get's are such terribly bad copies that they make Brick/Shifty/Enlighten look good. Still, I'd like to get one just for the yellow top-hat!

If you want to learn more about LEGO competitors, knock-offs, and pirated clones, the best place to visit is here: http://bloks.hyperboards.com/index.php

There's alot of info on the pirated clones in the Reviews and General Construction Toy sections.

That said, EB has had some great reviews about alternative brick brands in the past. Here's two great "Oxford" reviews with lots of pictures that appeared on EB earlier. The second one does a great job of rating the compatibility of Oxford and LEGO minifigs and accessories.

http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?...=19675&st=0

http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?...1&hl=oxford I want this set so bad!

If you do a search in the pirates forum, you'll find several reviews of Shifty/Enlighten/Brick (three names, same "brand") pirated pirate sets.

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