Car Talk

[prateek]

To get the Extreme Replica kit complete it would be around £20-25k. Another £5-6k for labour and they will complete it for you.

But I have 2 friends who love cars and when I get around to buying it in a few years, I am going to get my friends to help me get mabye a Audi V6 and Tune it up to 500 BHP. The makers of the Kit say the Audi is proberbly a good Engine to use for 500bhp, And you can tune it for about £1500 and it doesnt strain the engine. Or they said get a V8 and it will sound good and go pretty good. However some people, I dont know where they get it, But they are trying to put a V10 engine in the Replica.

Where do you buy Engines, And were do you buy them cheap?

Also, If I pay them to make a perfectly fitting Replica, I will try to change the Interior to as accurate as possible, but if that doesn't work, Ill fit in some LED's, Sat Nav and Door sills. And then make the interior my own.

Oh okay then that seems like a good deal. Is Extreme Replica the same one in the pics you posted? If so that's really good. And to get the exhaust note of the car, you can get a muffler sound box to change the exhaust note. They showed it on an episode of Pimp My Ride when a girl had a Dodge Caravan and they pimped i out and put in that box so she could make her car sound like any other car she wanted. There were all these options like Aston Martins, Ferraris and Lamborghinis.

[Joey Lock]

Oh okay then that seems like a good deal. Is Extreme Replica the same one in the pics you posted? If so that's really good. And to get the exhaust note of the car, you can get a muffler sound box to change the exhaust note. They showed it on an episode of Pimp My Ride when a girl had a Dodge Caravan and they pimped i out and put in that box so she could make her car sound like any other car she wanted. There were all these options like Aston Martins, Ferraris and Lamborghinis.

Its not that Crappy Vroombox thing though is it?

Its a scam online that you connect to your car and it emmits a car sound on speakers. Its crap. But if you can get a muffler that sounds like a Murcielago, MANNN I want that! I wouldnt really need to have a too fast Engine, Ill just cruise and rev with the Lambo sound!

[5150 Lego]

Well on the Forums for the Extreme Car owners, theres a few people making there own interior Dash boards from the mold of the Interior Dash they get from the Lamborghini, Then they can cut out the holes and such where its needed. I don't know wheter it will turn out well but people are making door "inners":

Heres a screenshot I took, And I dont think this is a replica although it says. Because look at the interior, Its got a right door sills, the fog lights under the steering wheel and the right dial cover...

Money, money, money my friend. I wouldn't doubt that others have created there own dashboards and door panels,but that all cost money. Its not cheap. So if this is your plan, make sure you have someone with experiance handle this project for you.

So your saying get a V8 cause it can handle the power of 400-500 bhp?

Yes. A V8 will handle the power reliably (when built correctly) and alot cheaper than a 4cly.

EDIT: Also as you were saying about door fittings. This is a quote from a person building theres and they stated:

"Rich is right.. the only way to judge something is by seeing it yourself. All these posts about the dimensions being different are simply just not true. They are identical in length / width / height. You can take a panel off one and it will fit the other.

Again I fully agree with Rich in that your buying if you would an airfix kit. Give two people the same kit and you will get two very different results. Each come with identical instructions."

I'd defenatly have to see it myself instead of believeing the owner of the company. Of course he's going to defend his product till death. But from what i saw in the video, there was quality concerns.

So the fitting of the panels really depends on your skill at engineering and creation. I mean, you could make a Lamborghini Murcielago on the outside, but you can (If you really want to) pimp it up in the inside, with speakers in the headrests, lots of lights and stuff. I mean, if I buy it and make it, I am not keeping the dash kit the same. Im going to put some illuminating Dials in, Some LEDs, sat nav, e.t.c. Thats if I cant find a person who will make a true Lambo interior for me.

If the panels are junk to begin with then it doesn't matter your skill level. There not going to fit propperly and your going to have a Junk car. Again, i haven't seen the car in person, so it might be as good as the guy says. But in my experiance, kit cars are just that. Kit cars. They lack the quality and structure that is the premisis these super cars are built on.

As far as "Pimp" factor goes, you don't need to change the dash, nor to most people do that. You can change out your stereo speakers, and nean lights and keep the same dash. Your looking at thousands upon thousands to replace a dash. And i can't see anyone replacing the Lambo style dash anyways.

To get the Extreme Replica kit complete it would be around £20-25k. Another £5-6k for labour and they will complete it for you.

Does that include an engine? And if so what engine?

But I have 2 friends who love cars and when I get around to buying it in a few years, I am going to get my friends to help me get mabye a Audi V6 and Tune it up to 500 BHP. The makers of the Kit say the Audi is proberbly a good Engine to use for 500bhp, And you can tune it for about £1500 and it doesnt strain the engine. Or they said get a V8 and it will sound good and go pretty good. However some people, I dont know where they get it, But they are trying to put a V10 engine in the Replica.

First, how skilled are your friends? Its not an easy task to build up an engine. especialy an Audi. I have loads of experaice with them, and i can tell you that there one of the worse it terms of tuning. Your going to need to spend alot of time on the dyno to get the HP results your after. So i have to call BS on the the $1500 to tune. I think the company is lieing to you.

Where do you buy Engines, And were do you buy them cheap?

Ussualy ebay or junkyards. Just make sure the engine comes with the engine wiring harness.

Edited September 6, 2009 by 5150 Lego

[Joey Lock]

I'd defenatly have to see it myself instead of believeing the owner of the company. Of course he's going to defend his product till death. But from what i saw in the video, there was quality concerns.

As far as "Pimp" factor goes, you don't need to change the dash, nor to most people do that. You can change out your stereo speakers, and nean lights and keep the same dash. Your looking at thousands upon thousands to replace a dash. And i can't see anyone replacing the Lambo style dash anyways.

Does that include an engine? And if so what engine?

First, how skilled are your friends? Its not an easy task to build up an engine. especialy an Audi. I have loads of experaice with them, and i can tell you that there one of the worse it terms of tuning. Your going to need to spend alot of time on the dyno to get the HP results your after. So i have to call BS on the the $1500 to tune. I think the company is lieing to you.

Ussualy ebay or junkyards. Just make sure the engine comes with the engine wiring harness.

Well the Guy who quoted that was not the owner, It was someone who was buiding the car. And he heard it from a experianced Kit car creator (Like Pimp My Ride specialists). If I really would like to make a Door Sill or Door "inners" Ill try just put some cloth or Leather on the doors.

And, Sorry If I sound very "chavvy" but I don't want my car to look super pimped and "wicked sick" or just to cruise around and pick up girls in. I want my car to sound good, look good, And most of all feel good when driving. The thing I want for the interior is for it to be comfortable on long journeys. I mean if I get small engne that sounds good, The fuel economy should be good, And Ill just get insurance for the Toyota MR2, Rather than Lambo insurance.

I dont like to ruin a car with neon lights under the body, I just want it to have a few "glowing" buttons to make it look and feel real!

The engine is just the engine from your Toyota MR2 that you buy and bring in. Thats if you want the Extreme Cars to build it for you which will cost a fair bit more. Or if your building yourself, It will take a 6 Weeks - Months. Especially finding a new engine or tuning your own one up. The hardest sounds like the moving of the engines, cause its dangerous and costly if you dont use the right equipment.

The company didn't say they would tune it for you. They meant thats how much they cost to tune it themselves for their "For show" model they use to advertise. So I shouldn't use a Audi engine?

I thought you can buy engines from Manufacturers... But I dont understand that some people say "Im thinking of using a V10 engine". How do they get ahold of that?!

[Commander Assassin]

Well since we're on the subject of Lamborghinis here, ( ) I thought it would be appropriate to show you guys this:

It is a cross between a Lamborgini Reventon, Ferrari Enzo, and a McLaren F1.

Edited September 8, 2009 by Clone Commander Assassin

[prateek]

Well since we're on the subject of Lamborghinis here, ( ) I thought it would be appropriate to show you guys this:

It is across between a Lamborgini Murcielago, Ferrari Enzo, and a McLaren F1.

That's awesome! I wouldn't mind driving around in that.

[Joey Lock]

Well since we're on the subject of Lamborghinis here, ( ) I thought it would be appropriate to show you guys this:

It is across between a Lamborgini Murcielago, Ferrari Enzo, and a McLaren F1.

Thats like the Lamborghini Reventon:

[Big Cam]

Well since we're on the subject of Lamborghinis here, ( ) I thought it would be appropriate to show you guys this:

It is across between a Lamborgini Murcielago, Ferrari Enzo, and a McLaren F1.

wow, I'm waiting for it to trasform into a robot and bite that guys head off. It's like a combination of every cool supercar.

i'd drive it.

[Joey Lock]

wow, I'm waiting for it to trasform into a robot and bite that guys head off. It's like a combination of every cool supercar.

i'd drive it.

So you'd drive a car with the Steering in the Middle? I'd like to see even the Creator try drive that without making a mistake.

[posades]

So you'd drive a car with the Steering in the Middle? I'd like to see even the Creator try drive that without making a mistake.

Maybe they couldn't decide on whether to put it on the left or right side so they compromised.

And Big Cam, that's exactly what I was thinking. Looks too Transformers-ey to me, and not in a good way. I'm not a big fan of all the blocky geometry on the front, but to each their own I guess.

[Big Cam]

So you'd drive a car with the Steering in the Middle? I'd like to see even the Creator try drive that without making a mistake.

The McClaren F1 was a center steering position car.

That would actually be easier than standard cars. You would have an equal view on each side.

What kind of mistakes are you antisipating?

[prateek]

So you'd drive a car with the Steering in the Middle? I'd like to see even the Creator try drive that without making a mistake.

Yeah, it's like the Mclaren F1. It would be preety cool to drive in the middle.

[5150 Lego]

And, Sorry If I sound very "chavvy" but I don't want my car to look super pimped and "wicked sick" or just to cruise around and pick up girls in. I want my car to sound good, look good, And most of all feel good when driving. The thing I want for the interior is for it to be comfortable on long journeys. I mean if I get small engne that sounds good, The fuel economy should be good, And Ill just get insurance for the Toyota MR2, Rather than Lambo insurance.

I dont like to ruin a car with neon lights under the body, I just want it to have a few "glowing" buttons to make it look and feel real!

Don't take this the wrong way, but nearly nothing of what you just said made any sense.

First, you were the one that said you wanted to add neon lights and the such. And at no point did i ever mention neon under the vehicle. We were talking about dash and dash conversions.

Second, your talking about having a car that looks good, sounds good, and feels good when driving. These are not the qualities kit cars are known for. I'm not trying to shut down your idea of a KIT car, but i suggest you take a look at the kit you are considering purchasing in person before you invest nearly $40,000( Yes, 40, cause you should anticipate having to do touch up as well as work to the engine to get it up were you want it, as well as all the additional parts that will be needed as well as labor to do all the work.

I'd also check for insurance prices too. While your correct that you won't have to pay the insurance for a Lambo, you won't be paying for insurance for a 15yr old MR2 either. Although it might use the chassis of an MR2, it is no longer an MR2. Many insurance companies (at least here in the states) won't insure super cars or kit cars. You'll need to look into specialty insurance for them, and there not cheap.

I thought you can buy engines from Manufacturers... But I dont understand that some people say "Im thinking of using a V10 engine". How do they get ahold of that?!

Yes you can buy directly for the manufacture, but in many cases there going to be very expensive depending on the engine you choose. But the plus side of doing this is your buying a brand new engine with all the necessary brackets and wiring harness. So you don't have to worry about inheriting someone else's problems from a used engine.

Again, I'm not trying to steer you away from this kit car. Just make sure you do proper research before making a major purchase like this. Don't get caught up in the "Super car looks". Your young. You'll have plenty of time to get the vehicle of your dreams.

[prateek]

Again, I'm not trying to steer you away from this kit car. Just make sure you do proper research before making a major purchase like this. Don't get caught up in the "Super car looks". Your young. You'll have plenty of time to get the vehicle of your dreams.

That's what I was about to say. Instead of blowing all your money on this kit car project and risk messing up, you can get another good car for the amount of money you are talking about and make a kit or buy a real Lambo later in your life, like I'm going to do

[Big Cam]

Well the Guy who quoted that was not the owner, It was someone who was buiding the car. And he heard it from a experianced Kit car creator (Like Pimp My Ride specialists). If I really would like to make a Door Sill or Door "inners" Ill try just put some cloth or Leather on the doors.

And, Sorry If I sound very "chavvy" but I don't want my car to look super pimped and "wicked sick" or just to cruise around and pick up girls in. I want my car to sound good, look good, And most of all feel good when driving. The thing I want for the interior is for it to be comfortable on long journeys. I mean if I get small engne that sounds good, The fuel economy should be good, And Ill just get insurance for the Toyota MR2, Rather than Lambo insurance.

I dont like to ruin a car with neon lights under the body, I just want it to have a few "glowing" buttons to make it look and feel real!

The engine is just the engine from your Toyota MR2 that you buy and bring in. Thats if you want the Extreme Cars to build it for you which will cost a fair bit more. Or if your building yourself, It will take a 6 Weeks - Months. Especially finding a new engine or tuning your own one up. The hardest sounds like the moving of the engines, cause its dangerous and costly if you dont use the right equipment.

The company didn't say they would tune it for you. They meant thats how much they cost to tune it themselves for their "For show" model they use to advertise. So I shouldn't use a Audi engine?

I thought you can buy engines from Manufacturers... But I dont understand that some people say "Im thinking of using a V10 engine". How do they get ahold of that?!

a 15 year old MR2 chasis will nt be comfortable on long trips nor will it handle well, all of this will require more money and you can never have both.

I don't mean this to sound rude but I know it's going to. ( I'm really just trying to help )

You don't sound like the type of person who has the mechanical car knowledge to build a kit car. They don't snap together like LEGO's. You will need to custom make certain parts, and the engine can't just be purchased from a dealer, and thinking that way prooves you might be in over your head. Why don't you look towards something that is from a dealer, for 40,000 you could get a very nice car.

[Commander Assassin]

Thats like the Lamborghini Reventon:

Sorry about that

I am not (thankfully ) that knowledgeable on Lambos. I will edit the original post.

[Joey Lock]

Sorry about that

I am not (thankfully ) that knowledgeable on Lambos. I will edit the original post.

Im not saying it is a Reventon! I meant it looks like it.

@ Big Cam

I know what your saying about getting another car for $40k, Which is like £20k. And I know you all think I am young and stupid for wanting to build a Kit car, But I always wanted a Lamborghini, And I want to build a replica. I wasn't planning on buying it anytime soon, at least 5-15 years time. I mean Im not getting a job then blowing £20k which I woul proberbly earn in about 3-4 years of my first few jobs on a Kit car...Im not that stupid.

@ prateek and 5150

As I said, Im not getting a kit car anytime soon, So by that time, And remember that Im only 15, I can certainly learn mechanical skills. Anyway, the company that makes the Replica will build it for me for a extra sum. The only things I alone will fit in the car are proberbly a ew LCDs and Sat nav, Theres a joint company called "Broadfieldz" who are the ones who make the Interior for the Extreme Lamborghini Replica, And they fit in the Dash, Sat nav, Radio and door sills and mostly whatever you want to have.

As for the Insurance, Most owners of the cars recommend using FootmanJames insurance. They insure Classic Cars, Modern Cars, Classic Bikes and Modern Bikes, Specialist cars e.t.c.

@ 5150

"Don't take this the wrong way, but nearly nothing of what you just said made any sense.

First, you were the one that said you wanted to add neon lights and the such. And at no point did i ever mention neon under the vehicle. We were talking about dash and dash conversions."

That part I was reassuring you I don't want to "Pimp" up the car to bad, No spoliers or Stickers on it, I just want it to be a Normal Lambo on the outside and my own place inside.

[Big Cam]

I am happy you understood my post and realized I wasn't trying to be mean. Depending on what you go to school for you may end up with a job where you could afford a Lambo, I wouldn't totally rule that out.

[prateek]

Thanks Joey for clearing things up. By the time you do build a kit, there will be a new Lamborghini in place of the Murcialego so kits would be easier to come by (classic kits are easier to find than newer models)

[5150 Lego]

Im not saying it is a Reventon! I meant it looks like it.

@ Big Cam

I know what your saying about getting another car for $40k, Which is like £20k. And I know you all think I am young and stupid for wanting to build a Kit car, But I always wanted a Lamborghini, And I want to build a replica. I wasn't planning on buying it anytime soon, at least 5-15 years time. I mean Im not getting a job then blowing £20k which I woul proberbly earn in about 3-4 years of my first few jobs on a Kit car...Im not that stupid.

@ prateek and 5150

As I said, Im not getting a kit car anytime soon, So by that time, And remember that Im only 15, I can certainly learn mechanical skills. Anyway, the company that makes the Replica will build it for me for a extra sum. The only things I alone will fit in the car are proberbly a ew LCDs and Sat nav, Theres a joint company called "Broadfieldz" who are the ones who make the Interior for the Extreme Lamborghini Replica, And they fit in the Dash, Sat nav, Radio and door sills and mostly whatever you want to have.

@ 5150

"Don't take this the wrong way, but nearly nothing of what you just said made any sense.

First, you were the one that said you wanted to add neon lights and the such. And at no point did i ever mention neon under the vehicle. We were talking about dash and dash conversions."

That part I was reassuring you I don't want to "Pimp" up the car to bad, No spoliers or Stickers on it, I just want it to be a Normal Lambo on the outside and my own place inside.

Glad you understood our posts as more "constructive critizisim" than being rude to you. Glad all thats cleared up.

As for the Insurance, Most owners of the cars recommend using FootmanJames insurance. They insure Classic Cars, Modern Cars, Classic Bikes and Modern Bikes, Specialist cars e.t.c.

Just check on the allowed mileage. You'd be lucky if they let you drove more than 5K miles/kilometers a year.

[Joey Lock]

Just check on the allowed mileage. You'd be lucky if they let you drove more than 5K miles/kilometers a year.

Well I wouldn't use it as a every day car. Just use it for either Parties, events e.t.c. Or just...Well...For the feel of a drive. Also, if its a Kit car, not that I would do it, But could they really tell if you messed with the Milometer a bit. Obviously if you had like a old MR2, it would have high mileage, but if you sort of, kept it around the original number?

@ Big Cam: In most cases, The Real thing is better. But in this case, I'd much rather pay for insurance and have a kit car than buy a Lambo or

Edited September 8, 2009 by Joey Lock

[5150 Lego]

Well I wouldn't use it as a every day car. Just use it for either Parties, events e.t.c. Or just...Well...For the feel of a drive. Also, if its a Kit car, not that I would do it, But could they really tell if you messed with the Milometer a bit. Obviously if you had like a old MR2, it would have high mileage, but if you sort of, kept it around the original number?

Its not like TV were one takes an electric screw driver and just "Roles back" the odometer. Its more difficult to do than you think, and is highly illeagal to tamper with. Its concidered fraud and can land you a a very large fine as well as jail time.

[prateek]

2011 McLaren MP4-12C and the Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG were both unveiled today (according to Fast Lane Daily)

[Joey Lock]

Quick Question.

I know 5150 will say its not easy to replicate and stuff. But what is the easiest to at least sound a bit like the real car.

Which Engine noise is easier to replica using other engines, A Ferrari F430 or the Lamborghini Murcielago?

Another company makes a Ferrari F430 Replica which has a brilliant interior:

Unlike in the Lamborghini:

Cause it is this:

Or this:

But I thought which would be easier to live with as a Replica.

[Big Cam]

Quick Question.

I know 5150 will say its not easy to replicate and stuff. But what is the easiest to at least sound a bit like the real car.

Which Engine noise is easier to replica using other engines, A Ferrari F430 or the Lamborghini Murcielago?

This is an almost impossible question because we ned to know how much money you have and so on, and so on.

But having been in both, I would say the Lambo would be easier to reproduce. It has a bit lower of a tone which would be more attainable through other engines.

The ferari litterally sounds like a motorcycle, it is like you are in an F1 car. I would know.

This is me, I'm too big for most supercars.

The rest of my set is here.

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v421/nic...lass%20Driving/