Siegfried Posted July 3, 2009 Author Posted July 3, 2009 So tell me, Jeff, why did you need to register a second account for this? Shall we discuss it privately, or right here? 'cos he thinks we don't understand what an IP address is! But you've ruined my fun; I was going to play opposites. Eitherway LeggoMyLego, so you were that annoyed that we merged those topics? Strewth man, loosen up! LEGO is just a hobby! Quote
Shadows Posted July 3, 2009 Posted July 3, 2009 But you've ruined my fun; I was going to play opposites. If you'd told me, we could have played good cop, bad cop. It's your turn with the cuffs. Quote
SWMAN Posted July 3, 2009 Posted July 3, 2009 I disagree with what you have said as well. I think that we can have tons of fun even if the moderators are a little strict. I hate that people are lazy in their postings and don't use proper grammar. Quote
Millacol88 Posted July 3, 2009 Posted July 3, 2009 I guess he didn't realize you guys have the power to tell if there is more than one account using the same IP address. On-topic, I think the moderators are trying to do exactly the opposite of what you think they are doing. If they let everybody contribute: "tahts cool" or "OMFG that sux" to every thread, the forums would be unreadable, and they also wouldn't do justice to the hobby they are based around. By making sure that people either contribute worthwhile comments or don't contribute at all, they are ensuring that the forums don't get clogged up with pointless garbage. Fair enough? Quote
Siegfried Posted July 3, 2009 Author Posted July 3, 2009 If you'd told me, we could have played good cop, bad cop. It's your turn with the cuffs. It's not too late; let's go! brickbuster44 Where were you on the night of the 31st? Tell me or it'll go bad for you. *slap kick* I gotta go to the can; you take over Sargent Shadows. Quote
Spyder Posted July 3, 2009 Posted July 3, 2009 It's not too late; let's go!brickbuster44 Where were you on the night of the 31st? Tell me or it'll go bad for you. *slap kick* I gotta go to the can; you take over Sargent Shadows. There was no June 31st. See brickbuster44, the admins are messin' with ya. Lighten up, and have some fun here, just not too much fun, okay? I'm just kidding, I'm just kidding. Quote
Emperor Claudius Rome Posted July 3, 2009 Posted July 3, 2009 As already said, EB's rules are put in so we don't have a bunch of 1 post spammers. Eurobricks is the most spam-free forum I've joined. The rules will also keep the forums readable, we don't want new members posting like: OMG TAHTS t0ta7y c001 . I don't think any Mods or Admins abuse their powers here. They only close topics if neccisary, like if it's of topic, spam filled, or pointless. So now that i've covered that, enjoy your stay Quote
Shadows Posted July 3, 2009 Posted July 3, 2009 brickbuster44 Where were you on the night of the 31st? Tell me or it'll go bad for you. *slap kick* I gotta go to the can; you take over Sargent Shadows. Ok, seriously brickbuster44, well, Jeff, if I may... my partner, he's a nice guy and all, but he's been under a lot of stress lately, what with the missing blue bucket and all, and I think he's getting close to snapping. I'd just tell him what he wants to know before that happens, it would be a lot better for all of us. You know, I'm sure we can make a deal, get you a reduced sentence, maybe even a well punctuated one, and put this whole messy affair behind us. Oh crap, I think I hear him coming back, and it sounds like they were out of paper again in the toilets... Quote
paanjang16 Posted July 3, 2009 Posted July 3, 2009 I guess he didn't realize you guys have the power to tell if there is more than one account using the same IP address. On-topic, I think the moderators are trying to do exactly the opposite of what you think they are doing. If they let everybody contribute: "tahts cool" or "OMFG that sux" to every thread, the forums would be unreadable, and they also wouldn't do justice to the hobby they are based around. By making sure that people either contribute worthwhile comments or don't contribute at all, they are ensuring that the forums don't get clogged up with pointless garbage. Fair enough? I agree with you Running a server to host a forum like Eurobricks need money (as in real life ones, not those used in Lego Town or to pay tax to King Leo or pay summons to the Space police) and it can get expensive to provide high speed access to the site as well as keeping the servers running at full capacity. Not to mention to pay ppl to keep it up and running. Junk posts or irrelevant threads will only eat up previous resources on the server which would be better off storing reviews, discussions about coming sets, pictures of Lego, MOC pictures etc. Not to mention it will push the relevant threads to the bottom. Also, it is essential to have people post in proper, readable English as that would make everyone who visit this site easy to understand what is posted. People won't get offended if the post is constructive and at the same time worthwhile to read. EB is a mature forum I can see, and people rarely engage in all out flame war unless maybe it is a fantasy battle thread Quote
Luke McAwesome Posted July 3, 2009 Posted July 3, 2009 I fail to agree, brickbuster44/LeggoMyLego(?). Ever seen the mess Flickr and MOCpages are now? That might just be the future of EB. I'm sure I've done quite a few posts containing just "Thank you" and other phrases, and my sincere apologies to the EB staff for that. But like the staff has said, they are trying their best to keep the site mature, and free of spam. And I fully understand the point of this. I'll give you a reminder of what MOCpages is like now. "lol kool do u hav insturctons 2 buld tat moc" It really would be a shame to see EB turn into this, wouldn't it? And very disappointing to those who are more than dedicated to this site. ... Boy, this place sounds like a courtroom. Quote
Millacol88 Posted July 3, 2009 Posted July 3, 2009 You know, I'm sure we can make a deal, get you a reduced sentence, maybe even a well punctuated one, and put this whole messy affair behind us. That was pretty funny. I'm sure Siegfried could get a blue Fabuland bucket on Bricklink. Quote
Siegfried Posted July 3, 2009 Author Posted July 3, 2009 Oh crap, I think I hear him coming back, and it sounds like they were out of paper again in the toilets... Bloomen heck! I had to wipe it all over your case report! No bog roll... AGAIN! But it's fitting; your statement stunk before anyway... Care to revise it? It needs to be rewritten now anyway so you might as well come clean. *wipes statement in the face of brickbuster44* How'd ya like that? *kick shove phone book* I bet you have my bucket too! *brings out Fabuland shovel and clobbers him a few times* ....oh er... gotta go back there; bog roll or not! I'll give the sheila's loo a try! *runs off again clutching rear end* You know, I'm sure we can make a deal, get you a reduced sentence, maybe even a well punctuated one, and put this whole messy affair behind us. You're in fine form today! I'll drop the game now; I wouldn't want to get banned for spamming. Thanks for playing along. brickbuster44 Feel free to come back and discuss this. We won't bite; honest. As for me it's 2am and my wife is getting grumpy so I better go. Quote
Lt. Col. Thok Posted July 3, 2009 Posted July 3, 2009 (edited) I'm sure Siegfried could get a blue Fabuland bucket on Bricklink. What does that have to do with anything? I understand you're point, Mr. member-with-too-many-accounts, but unfortunately, you have undermined whatever support and respect you may have gotten. As stated in the guideline, we're just a site that is for mature persons, and, while some admins have a non-nonsense attitude towards this, many don't. Its good to have a balance, and that I understand. However spam is horrible as it just makes threads boring and indecipherable. Therefore, this reminder, however stern, was apropriate. We hobbyists may (at times) appear elitist (for lack of a better word) but, in truth, we're humans - some of us get annoyed easier than others. Good luck with your double-account case. Edited July 3, 2009 by Lt. Col. Thok Quote
Shadows Posted July 3, 2009 Posted July 3, 2009 You're in fine form today! I'll drop the game now; I wouldn't want to get banned for spamming. Thanks for playing along. Yeah, gotta watch out for those staff types around here. We won't bite; honest. It's true, we never know where you might have been. Quote
Eilif Posted July 3, 2009 Posted July 3, 2009 I get it, Brickbuster has multiple accounts! I was wondering how someone with a post count of 1 could be complaining about being chastised for a PREVIOUS post! In all seriousness, I would like to put in my vote for the leadership and a well regulated forum. A few things: 1.There was some whining in the OP about adult standards ruining the fun, and adults taking all the toys. a) This is an AdultFanOfLego forum. There's alot of younger folks here, but they try to aspire to Adult behavior in order to participate. If you want akids forum, try LEGO.com. b) Baloney, kids have just as much access to toys stores LEGO stores and LEGO online as AFOL's. Further, if it was the case, it certainly wouldn't be EB's fault. 2. There was also some complaining about EB staff being too strict. a. EB staff is remarkably lenient, giving warnings and guidance long before any bans or chambering. b. I, and most EB'ers want an ordered atmosphere. There are plenty of other forums choked with spam, 3 word posting, flaming, and other garbage. If that's your cup o, tea, those forums are there for you. Thanks EB staff for your front page advertisement for maturity, writing standards and order. Quote
5150 Lego Posted July 3, 2009 Posted July 3, 2009 See exactly the point the OP is getting at. I really do. Though i don't believe asking for proper spelling and grammar is going to cause this site to go in a downward spiral, its not the end of the world if someone misspells a word or two. Also considering the vast number of member under the age of 18 on this site, i doubt your going to see anything but.. "I completely disagree with you! This site is the best ever, and the mods are doing a perfect job!" ..For fear of being banned or put in the corner with a dunce capon there sig fig. And there in lies a problem in itself. If a problem or "concern" as it may be is brought to the admin. attention, if the majority don't agree, its dismissed. I strongly feel that many will never truly voice there thoughts on certain matters because they know there here under the age requirement and are only allowed to stay based on "good behaviour". If they start to cause problems or question an action of someone there booted no questions asked cause technically their already in violation of the rules. But EB whole age requirement is kind of their own doing anyways. (which was instated more due to adult level conversations than to prevent one line slammers and proper spelling anyways ) I'm not saying a speak for anyone, nor am i speaking of any one time in paticular. Just my observations in the past 4 yrs of being on this forum. This is an AdultFanOfLego forum. There's alot of younger folks here, but they try to aspire to Adult behavior in order to participate. If you want akids forum, try LEGO.com. There in lies another problem. While many are trying to "act" mature, many over do it, and it really shows their true age. There not able to be themselves. There trying to be someone completely different just to be accepted. And to the mods... Like i've said in the past, i have alot of respect for what you guys do. The purpose of this post wasn't to take a swing at any of you. Just that maybe you can take posts/threads and see both sides of the specturm and try and see were the oposing side is coming from. I understand that some may not agree with what i, or the OP has said (i don't agree with everything that he said myself), but alot of good points were brought up. If it is true that he was given a warning for saying "Thank you" in a thread, thats a little much. But again thats just me. Quote
Captain Green Hair Posted July 3, 2009 Posted July 3, 2009 Can i close this please? Yes you can! Thanks, we have like a million of these topics from people that obviously don't know what they are talking about. Quote
5150 Lego Posted July 3, 2009 Posted July 3, 2009 (edited) I find it kind of messed up that that topic is closed with the last post from a moderator being ... Thanks, we have like a million of these topics from people that obviously don't know what they are talking about. Completely rude and disrespectful. Cause someone disagrees on a matter or is trying to address something that you don't agree with they don't know what their talking about??? Right. Great attitude to have. Edited July 3, 2009 by 5150 Lego Quote
CP5670 Posted July 3, 2009 Posted July 3, 2009 Yeah, closing that thread was quite unwarranted. It was a perfectly civil discussion about an important topic, even if you (like me) didn't agree with the original poster's views. I have no problem with the newly posted rules and I see what the administration is trying to accomplish with them. On the other hand, there is a lot of precedent within the AFOL internet community for what he is complaining about, so we do need to be careful with it. Quote
Captain Green Hair Posted July 3, 2009 Posted July 3, 2009 You clearly do not appreciate it that people spend their free time to keep our forum clean and make it attractive for the AFOL community. Yes AFOL, though we have some underaged members here, this is still an AFOL orientated site. I don't hear any AFOLs complain, while they are complaining about crap topics and lame posts on the forum. You should try and moderate a site as big as this for a day, since you clearly seem to know it better. You might not like my attitude here, but i've heard enough of this unconstructive whining cluttering up the forum. Quote
CP5670 Posted July 3, 2009 Posted July 3, 2009 You clearly do not appreciate it that people spend their free time to keep our forum clean and make it attractive for the AFOL community.Yes AFOL, though we have some underaged members here, this is still an AFOL orientated site. I don't hear any AFOLs complain, while they are complaining about crap topics and lame posts on the forum. That isn't even the point. I agree with you on this. But it was still no reason to lock that thread. You should try and moderate a site as big as this for a day, since you clearly seem to know it better.You might not like my attitude here, but i've heard enough of this unconstructive whining cluttering up the forum. Did you read the later posts in the thread? People were giving reasonable opinions on why they agree or disagree with the rules. I didn't see any whining there. For the record, I am a global moderator on a much larger forum (although not Lego related) and we certainly have no problem with people voicing complaints as long as they remain civil about it. Quote
KimT Posted July 3, 2009 Posted July 3, 2009 Discussions on what the moderators should or shouldn't do are always hot I think that it's close to impossible to satisfy everyone on a website with so many members. Everyone have their own opinion on how to do stuff and we (the staff) can't do anything without stepping on some members toes. To keep it short and simple: We try to keep out l337 and chat messages without wrecking the fun. It's a hard balance, I'd agree to that and we might even have put the hammer down on topics that didn't truly deserve it. We try our best to keep this place in good shape. We do not expect everyone to be fluent writers of English - that would be insane. What we do expect is a little effort in trying from our members. "OMFG diZ rocks!!1111!!1" Isn't really welcome here, no matter how old you are. Now can we get back to playing with LEGO and focus on that? (I just bought Zesk - don't tell anyone ) Also it felt good reading that (now closed) topic. It seems a lot of members agree with how we do things - thank you for your support Quote
CP5670 Posted July 3, 2009 Posted July 3, 2009 I think you are missing the point of our complaint. It isn't about 1337speak, bad English, or any such things. It is about whether that particular thread should have been locked. The thread was a discussion about immature posting, but it did not actually consist of such posting. It's a hard balance, I'd agree to that and we might even have put the hammer down on topics that didn't truly deserve it. We try our best to keep this place in good shape. That's good to know, but you realize that you could simply reopen the thread if you think one of you made a mistake. Quote
AwesomeStar Posted July 3, 2009 Posted July 3, 2009 5150 Lego, haven't you already created a topic about how you feel about EB's moderation? This subject-matter has been brought up in there already, too. Not being a mini-mod or anything, but you could probably continue this discussion there? Here's the thread. Just thought I'd make a suggestion, but it's down to the mods. ~A.S. Quote
KimT Posted July 3, 2009 Posted July 3, 2009 I don't think CGH made a mistake in closing that topic. I (as he) have seen many topic on such matters as this and at some point it gets to you. The tiresomeness of getting slapped in the face once in a while, is annoying at best... Who are we to request mature behaviour? How dare we ask for such things? And who do we think we are, laying down the lawn on what's mature and what's not mature? I don't have the answers, but what I do know is that we've been asked to moderate Eurobricks and we try our best. The members of the staff almost always agree on what we want and what we don't want - so to cut it short. If people really disagree with us that much, then there's plenty of other sites to join and enjoy our mutual hobby of LEGO on. We're not forcing anyone to be members here. - This is not meant as an elitist comment, I am just trying to make you all understand how I feel. Perhaps I should merge this with the closed topic and let the discussion move on for a while. Rest assured that if it gets ugly in any way, I'll shove the lot of you into the trash compactor and fry your megablocks (that was intended as a joke ) Quote
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