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[sj1984]

War machine and mace have the same minifig head (to the best of my knowledge), so if you look at it that way, then it's not racist

But they don't, so it is.

[lockdownTF]

Since the Joke is based around the idea that different races of peoples all look alike then I have to agree it can definitely be argued its racist

[sj1984]

What's worrying is that it was posted almost a year ago, with nobody calling him out on it in that time....

[Mr Man]

What's worrying is that it was posted almost a year ago, with nobody calling him out on it in that time....

Or maybe it's because nobody actually found it racist.

[sj1984]

Or maybe it's because nobody actually found it racist.

'Found it racist'? It's not a question of someone 'finding' it racist - it IS racist. It's not a subjective thing.

[Robert_88]

Please tell me what you think about this set:

http://shop.lego.com...a-s-Palace-9516

Edit: btw: We have moderators here. I think they would react if someone posts something racist...

Edited May 5, 2014 by Robert_88

[Mr Man]

'Found it racist'? It's not a question of someone 'finding' it racist - it IS racist. It's not a subjective thing.

Found it offensive rather.

[sj1984]

Please tell me what you think about this set:

http://shop.lego.com...a-s-Palace-9516

Edit: btw: We have moderators here. I think they would react if someone posts something racist...

Well, evidently they didn't....Similarly, nobody seems to batter an eyelid at the regularly sexist remarks in the 'Ladies, Stand Up' topic.

And that set's good. I know you're trying to bring up the whole 'Hey Jabba's Palace is a racist set' thing that happened a while ago, but that was pure nonsense and not at all comparable to this (very, very blatent) racist 'joke'.

Found it offensive rather.

Ah, okay. Still, whether or not people find something offensive doesn't alter whether it is or isn't okay. It's pure racism, and that isn't really up for debate.

[The Joker1]

Well, evidently they didn't....Similarly, nobody seems to batter an eyelid at the regularly sexist remarks in the 'Ladies, Stand Up' topic.

And that set's good. I know you're trying to bring up the whole 'Hey Jabba's Palace is a racist set' thing that happened a while ago, but that was pure nonsense and not at all comparable to this (very, very blatent) racist 'joke'.

Ah, okay. Still, whether or not people find something offensive doesn't alter whether it is or isn't okay. It's pure racism, and that isn't really up for debate.

Im more worried why your snooping around the ladies page....

Anyway this whole thing has got a little mad, If Oky made a joke saying say the Lex luthor figure got mistaken for bruce wayne as they have a similar head (which i think has been done?) i wouldn't throw a fit saying he thinks all white people are identical??? I respect what your saying but this topic is for light hearted humour not anger. After all if something racist is alluded to without oky realising does that really make it racist? Think about that one...

[sj1984]

Im more worried why your snooping around the ladies page....

Er, because I'm female....?

Anyway this whole thing has got a little mad, If Oky made a joke saying say the Lex luthor figure got mistaken for bruce wayne as they have a similar head (which i think has been done?) i wouldn't throw a fit saying he thinks all white people are identical??? I respect what your saying but this topic is for light hearted humour not anger.

Light hearted humour, sure - NOT the casual racism that's been displayed here, and is now being somehow excused by people.

After all if something racist is alluded to without oky realising does that really make it racist? Think about that one...

Yes, it definitely, absolutely does. I can't believe you're even asking that.

[The Joker1]

Er, because I'm female....?

Light hearted humour, sure - NOT the casual racism that's been displayed here, and is now being somehow excused by people.

Yes, it definitely, absolutely does. I can't believe you're even asking that.

That is a good enough reason , Just wondering why you don't have a pink star. I do see your point but you did take it a bit far, After a year nobody else has complained so it cant be that bad...

[Robert_88]

And that set's good. I know you're trying to bring up the whole 'Hey Jabba's Palace is a racist set' thing that happened a while ago, but that was pure nonsense and not at all comparable to this (very, very blatent) racist 'joke'.

Indeed, that was nonsense. But you are overreacting as well in this case! ;)

[sj1984]

That is a good enough reason , Just wondering why you don't have a pink star. I do see your point but you did take it a bit far, After a year nobody else has complained so it cant be that bad...

Nah - the number of people who do/don't say something has no connection to whether or not it's offensive.

[VK-318]

This is ridiculous, sj1984. I've been hoping to see this thread rise to the top of the forum again, but not like this. So some people think that a comic posted a year ago is racist. Firstly, when this strip came out, there were a few concerns voiced that it might be racist. Oky, the person who posted the comic, then specifically said he had not intended for it to be taken as a racist statement and apologized for offending anyone. That was enough to satisfy the concerns of everyone at that time, and since then there have been no complaints about it. And secondly, this thread is regularly visited by moderators, and if they had felt that there was an issue they would have stepped in and resolved it then.

But whatever. You think it's racist? That's all right, and you are certainly welcome to say so, just as the handful of others a year ago were welcome to say so. But you are not welcome to continue to say so over and over and over again. You have made your opinion clear. At the moment, you have two options. First, you can just let it go, or at least take it to a different thread. There may be (and probably is) a thread for discussing Eurobricks policy, racism included, but this isn't that thread. Second, you can appeal to a moderator. If you think this strip is so offensive that you just have to get it taken down, take your case to one of the Star Wars moderators. But this string of posts criticizing a year-old comic is no longer serving a useful purpose.

Edited May 6, 2014 by VK-318

[Oky]

Please, sj1984, calm down. You really are overreacting. I never meant to offend anyone, except maybe racists, of which I am definitely not one, so I'm sorry if you took it the wrong way.

It's not really 'parodying' racism, though. The core of the joke is 'Haha, they're both black and therefore look the same'. That's just racism.

For something to 'parody' racism, there has to be some point or intelligent comment to be taken from it. This does not have one. The punchline is essentially 'Haha, racism is funny!', when it should be more along the lines of 'Haha, racist people are idiots'.

But at its core, the member saw the War Machine minifig, thought 'Ha, there's a lightsaber on his shoulder, how can I get that into a joke? Well, he's black too, and so is Mace Windu, so I could say that they look the same HAHAHA'.

To be honest, that's the thought process of a closet racist.

You completely misinterpreted my joke. You are right, a parody of racism is meant to make fun of the ignorance and stupidity of racists, and that's what I was going for. You're supposed to laugh at Anakin's stupidity, not at War Machine. Again, I'm sorry if that wasn't conveyed correctly, but that doesn't give you the right to call me a racist.

[ZCerberus]

Ending this conversation now.

I do not believe the joke was saying Oky believes all people of a certain race look alike, I am more inclined to believe Oky when he says the joke was that some idiot believes/believed that to be true. I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt in this case.

I also believe the figures and or people who play the characters can look the same without the assumption that ALL such people of that race look the same. For example, I think Sam Worthington looks a lot like Andy Whitfield and that Blake Lively looks like Natalie Zea, again, doesn't mean I think all people of whatever race look the same? But even if I don't think Sam Jackson looks like Don Cheadle, their figure representations in LEGO could. I think the Will Turner and Bard figures look very similar even though they are played by two different actors who I don't think look all that similar in real life. Does that mean I think all white people look the same? If the joke had been a dwarf asking Bard where Captain Sparrow was would that have been racist? I wouldn't have viewed it as such, maybe you could have.

Oky's response suggests he was taking a somewhat different route than what I am posing above, but again, I am willing to believe his interpretation since I think it is clear there is some room for interpretation/intent.

Because I am giving him the benefit of the doubt, calling him a racist is not acceptable and will end now. You can say you thought the joke was in poor taste or that you believe it could be interpreted as inappropriate and you can report it to a moderator if you believe it to be, that is all okay and also a reasonable interpretation, but declaring someone is absolutley a racist when reasonable people can disagree and continuing to argue that is not what we want here.

[sj1984]

This is, frankly, unbelievable.

I mean a 'Hey, I can understand the problem here but....' response might've been okay, but to flat-out defend it? Without even a degree of questioning it?

That's ridiculous.

But whatever. You think it's racist? That's all right, and you are certainly welcome to say so, just as the handful of others a year ago were welcome to say so. But you are not welcome to continue to say so over and over and over again.

Er, it's discussion. I said 'Hey, this is racist and here's why', others disagreed, so I responded. That's discussion. You seriously shooting people down for discussing something on a discussion forum?

Seems to be majority rule, here. 'Oh, well all these people think it's okay, so it is', combined with a 'Oh hey, this guy's been here a while and is a well-respected member of the community, so we can't possibly call him out on this kind of stuff'.

The comic - regardless of intent - does not represent a 'parody' of racism. It just comes off as racist. And to say 'Oh yeah, but I'm not racist and didn't mean it to be racist' really doesn't change that! To clarify, I don't think Oky IS racist - just naive, I suppose.

Edited May 6, 2014 by sj1984

[Robert_88]

Well, this is your opinion. Nothing more, nothing less.

[Scorpiox]

This is, frankly, unbelievable.

I mean a 'Hey, I can understand the problem here but....' response might've been okay, but to flat-out defend it? Without even a degree of questioning it?

I'm pretty sure that ZCerberus doesn't want racism to be discussed in this LEGO-related forum. By no means has anyone been condoning racism, but this isn't the right place to talk about it, therefore...

You are of course welcome to hold whatever opinion you wish, but it's for the best that this topic intended for Star Wars jokes doesn't become the place for such discussion. If you feel strongly about it, you're probably best off taking the conversation to PM, however.

[sj1984]

I'm pretty sure that ZCerberus doesn't want racism to be discussed in this LEGO-related forum. By no means has anyone been condoning racism, but this isn't the right place to talk about it, therefore...

We're not 'discussing' racism, though. We're discussing the possible racist implications of a Lego comic a member made and posted in this topic - making it the perfect place for such a comment. I'm not going to make a 'racism topic' because there's nothing to discuss in terms of racism itself (because we all know that racism = bad, end of discussion) - but in relation to this comic that was posted and whether or not it could be considered racist then yes, this is the right place to do so.

Besides, racism isn't some controversial or adult subject. Racism is bad, there's no controversy or possible upset to be caused there.

You are of course welcome to hold whatever opinion you wish, but it's for the best that this topic intended for Star Wars jokes doesn't become the place for such discussion. If you feel strongly about it, you're probably best off taking the conversation to PM, however.

Again, this is the topic to mention it, because it's my response a comic that was posted here. People post in this topic to 1) show their comics and 2) give feedback on others' comics (even if that's a simple 'hey, that was funny'). My comments definitely fall into the second category, so this the right place to bring it up.

Racism isn't some taboo, controversial subject, so it's not one of those political/religious/etc discussions that sites tend to try and avoid.

[ZCerberus]

I said enough already. Any more posts on this topic will warrant a time out. This is a discussion forum but the topic has run its course and whether or not you like it, it has ended because a moderator has said it has ended. Move along.

[Dragonfire]

To alleviate the bad feeling left by the argument previously taking place in this thread, I have a new funny based on the 2014 upcoming summer sets. I don't own the sets though.

[VK-318]

To alleviate the bad feeling left by the argument previously taking place in this thread, I have a new funny based on the 2014 upcoming summer sets. I don't own the sets though.

Great! I should have one of my own ready in a day or two. Just need to find the time to get it ready.

Edited May 9, 2014 by VK-318

[Mr Man]

To alleviate the bad feeling left by the argument previously taking place in this thread, I have a new funny based on the 2014 upcoming summer sets. I don't own the sets though.

Can you use promotional images?

[TheOneVeyronian]

I've been a fan of this thread for a while, way before I joined, and I thought I'd like to contribute my own funny based on my favourite cyborg Grievous, which has been on my Flickr for a while now (apologies for the photography, this was taken before I became proficient with lighting techniques):

LEGO Star Wars Single Pane comic - Grievous in the Tanning Booth by TheOneVeyronian, on Flickr

Enjoy!