The Alchemyst Posted July 2, 2009 Posted July 2, 2009 (edited) edit: don't make me redo all that with alchy's thoughts please ;__: D: Dor's Compiling so it'll all be okay. And I think no one should post if someone's posting, seeing the huge amount of time it takes. >< Yes. I'm getting to work on compiling the list into something more or less compact. Wooo Alright LOVE the idea of Cyberpunk Glatorian. That would be awesome. So maybe all the Glatorian could integrate the tech into their bodies? I think we need to get some Votes going to get something solid Like: How many Glatorian? I'd say just a few. Like, Gresh, Tarix maybe, and I dunno who else. I think Gresh would be the best choice. Possibly a couple Vorox or maybe even a Skrall could get trapped too? And get like mutated and fight the others? So maybe around 10, Gresh, Mata Nui, and I think we need a Summer Glatorian to balance out [MN doesn't count... because >.>] Ackar? How many Agori? That really depends on if the traitor is Berix or not. If it is, Tarduk and possibly someone like Crotesius. If Berix isn't, we definitely should take him too. I thought Metus was the suspected one. So maybe 3 returning Agori, Berix, Tarduk and Crotesius? How many new Agori? 6? And I think Tarduk should definitely return seeing what kind of Agori he is. Who Returns for 2010? [Mata Nui is a must] Look up there ^^^ EDIT: BFA's Ideas: I like the Vorox Idea, but having 6 different versions would be hard to do I think. Unless we just make every character we can think of, and screw the set system Or we could just make one Vorox 10 Glatorian? Y/N Mata Nui, Gresh and Ackar to Return? Y/N Vorox to return, But not as sets? Y/N Vorox to return, but as one set? Y/N Screw the system, All Vorox as MOCed sets? Y/N 6 Agori? Y/N Berix, Crotesius and Tarduk to Return? Y/N If Crotesius to return, souped-up Cendox? :3 Y/N Changed Set Themes in the good guys: Cyberpunk? Y/N Mutation i.e. Toa Nuva? Y/N Hope this kind of voting works. >.> Edited July 2, 2009 by The Alchemyst Quote
Bfahome Posted July 2, 2009 Posted July 2, 2009 (edited) 10 Glatorian? Y/N [N]Mata Nui, Gresh and Ackar to Return? Y/N [i wouldn't be against it.] Vorox to return, But not as sets? Y/N [Y] Vorox to return, but as one set? Y/N [N (they'll end up changing inside the body anyway)] Screw the system, All Vorox as MOCed sets? Y/N [N] 6 Agori? Y/N [N (I say more or less than 6, just to be different.] Berix, Crotesius and Tarduk to Return? Y/N [i wouldn't be against it] If Crotesius to return, souped-up Cendox? :3 Y/N [if anyone's taking vehicles (which is a good idea for a journey like that), they need to and will get trashed when they fall into the body. They're either going to need to rebuild them differently, scout around for parts to use, or leave them. Depending on how this is pulled off, I say yes.] Changed Set Themes in the good guys: [i don't quite get this, so undecided right now.] Cyberpunk? Y/N [Y Y Y Y Y YES] Mutation i.e. Toa Nuva? Y/N [Maybe] Edited July 2, 2009 by Bfahome Quote
The Dor Posted July 2, 2009 Posted July 2, 2009 I think we need to get some Votes going to get something solid Like:How many Glatorian? I'd say just a few. Like, Gresh, Tarix maybe, and I dunno who else. I think Gresh would be the best choice. Possibly a couple Vorox or maybe even a Skrall could get trapped too? And get like mutated and fight the others? So maybe around 10, Gresh, Mata Nui, and I think we need a Summer Glatorian to balance out [MN doesn't count... because >.>] Ackar?Nah. We don't need a summer Glatorian. They aren't very important. Although maybe. Dunno. Not Ackar though How many Agori? That really depends on if the traitor is Berix or not. If it is, Tarduk and possibly someone like Crotesius. If Berix isn't, we definitely should take him too. I thought Metus was the suspected one. So maybe 3 returning Agori, Berix, Tarduk and Crotesius? How many new Agori? 6? And I think Tarduk should definitely return seeing what kind of Agori he is. Who Returns for 2010? [Mata Nui is a must] Look up there ^^^ 10 Glatorian? Y/N NO, I want as few Glatorian as possible. Mata Nui, Gresh and Ackar to Return? Y/N Ackar is too old. I say Gresh. Maybe that's all even. OMG Possibly one of the Agori could build themselves up or be mutated into a Glatorian sized being? Vorox to return, But not as sets? Y/N N Vorox to return, but as one set? Y/N Y Screw the system, All Vorox as MOCed sets? Y/N N, I want the system in place 6 Agori? Y/N N Berix, Crotesius and Tarduk to Return? Y/N Y If Crotesius to return, souped-up Cendox? :3 Y/N N Changed Set Themes in the good guys: Cyberpunk? Y/N YES Mutation i.e. Toa Nuva? Y/N Dunno what the Toa Nuva have to do with this, but I think the Vorox should be mutated and that's all. Hope this kind of voting works. >.> Possibly make a separate thread for voting. That would be the smart thing. Just have a 2010 voting thread I guess. Mata Nui is staying on BM for this. He along with a currently undetermined number of Agori and Glatorian fall into the Proto GS Possible mutations and new armor and characters are included in this falling into the GS Encounter failed experiments, led by "Mind" who is the mind of the failed GS, somehow inhabiting some form, who wants the Glatorian, primarily Mata Nui for the Ignika, captured Glatorian are in the Mind, but escape, and return to it at the end, for a final confrontation There is possibly a recurring villain who follows the Glatorian / Agori around, [Possibly killed plz?] Mata Nui and Mind have a battle over who gains control of the failed GS, Mata Nui ultimately wins and takes control, assembles the body w/ the Ignika, and flies off of BM [using Agori instead of Matoran I guess?]MN and Teridax have a /massive/ clash, where Mata Nui finally wins and Teridax is defeated, MU is taken over by probably Takanuva, SM is reunited by the two There you go. This is a cleaned up version. People, if you have an addition, do not attach it to the bullet plz xD Quote
The Alchemyst Posted July 2, 2009 Posted July 2, 2009 Finished the Vote Topic. I'll keep track of what we vote for and stuff there. This is pretty much discussion of our ideas and brainstorming. And I'll take them for voting in the other topic, and keep results there. This is going to be fun. :P [-The Alchemyst-] Quote
The Dor Posted July 2, 2009 Posted July 2, 2009 (edited) Finished the Vote Topic. I'll keep track of what we vote for and stuff there. This is pretty much discussion of our ideas and brainstorming. And I'll take them for voting in the other topic, and keep results there. This is going to be fun. :P [-The Alchemyst-] Alright thx. @Ideas in progress there: Environment:One monotone place, or different body parts = different environment? Different would be best. Different Body Parts all connected Underground?Yes. Through tunnels though, not direct connections. What kind of Creatures? Cyberpunk? Beastial? Both?Both. Creatures should be bestial. Other enemies would be either a mix or cyberpunk. Refugees exist?Yes. I think this is fantastic. The Mind: Has a small body already, or gets one from contact with Ignika?Only gets a body near the end I think. Maybe captures and forces Mata Nui to make one. Small body looks like? Dunno. Hivemind control over the creatures?YES Characteristics? Recurring Villain: Controlled by Mind how? Hivemind?Maybe not directly controlled by Mind. What kind of characteristics?Shadowy, lurking. What kind of connection with Mind, different from the creatures?More intelligent than the creatures, so shouldn't be controlled Story events: How do they fall in? From an excursion up North with the others? Why are they in a group when they fall in?Excursion up north would require a group, remember how dangerous it is? Didn't want to post this in the voting, dunno if it really fits in at all right now. EDIT: HOLY MEGABLOKS Antrozek!! That's amazing and amazingly fast too! Although he has a thornax instead of the Spear Launcher but that is still amazing! Edited July 2, 2009 by The Dor Quote
Takanuva-nui Posted July 2, 2009 Posted July 2, 2009 Wow guys, I am LOVING all of this Perhaps there can be some sorta proto Staff of Artakha or something, but its all in pieces, that they need to find all of them to help repair the body. I just say in parts because it kinda reminds me of 2001's mask hunts :3 And it can be the whole epic search that last year's keystones shoulda been. Quote
Antrozek Posted July 2, 2009 Posted July 2, 2009 I could give you my ideas about enviroments and races liying inside those "Wasted Tunnels" under Bara Magna: ENVIROMENTS THE LABORATORY: The place where GB worked on many species, like Toa, Glatorian, Matoran. all the enviroment is fully with earth, it haves so much flora that gave birth to imnumerable possibilities of livin fauna there. there are Capsules, machinary, pieces over the land, some Capsules have death experiments inside, and some in stasis as well. there are tunnels that bring you to a big hall covered with metal, and is abundant of capsules, prototype weapons, bodies and machinary that was to live inside Mata Nui robot THE CHEST: the Darkest and hottest area of all the tunnels ever meet. There are entire lakes that end in waterfalls, and there is a gigantesc red Nucleus that expires a surprising heat, there are "Temples" placed on constructions ribcages in the edges of the walls. The Flora is terribly abundant because of the water waterfalls and the nucleus that gives them heat, all are in formations of Jungles and Swamps. INHABITANTS: THE LABORATORY: There are Beast that call themselves "Verahk" living there, they are adapted to the place where they live, they are organic, and ugly, and they got some kind of Stalactite Metals spikes over their backs. they can control elements after such mutations given by the GB experiments. Also there are other creatures that make be call "Setoran" (Settler matoran), they are Completely Metalic, some of them lack parts in their bodies, which they have replaced with weapons and harmful machinery for the life, in spite of being Mechanicals, they need food, for which they fight with the Verahk for obtaining food, some are of great size, but the majority they are small. Their category is based on " Prototype Matoran " Senrah and Zeirus: They 2 are brothers, the two are considered to be " Welcomers of the apocalypse " by Their incredible skill of fight and mental experience, they have mechanical creatures that expire fire for his feet, are similar to a Horse, and it is necessary to have elegant when these are alone because these creatures since they can turn very violent sigh aggressive. Senrah controls Fire and Zeirus controls thunder both uses Spear Launchers as shoot weapons after they discovered them in the Laboratory Hall THE CHEST: No one Knows what lurks there, but it's know that in the Jungles there are Ape-like creatures, they are massise and are freaking Violent as Strong. in the Swamps there live aquatic creatures that will make you wish never birth if you found them in the dark. there's not very information of what live in the Nucleus area or the Waterfalls area. By a Skrall, there's info that in the Temples over the Ribcages constructions there inhabit Glatorian like people that have Replaced some members for metallic versions of them, they are bigger than a common Glatorian but not less dangerous than a Skrall, Their kind bases on something similar to Ciberpunks. The Females of the tribes are bigger than the men and they specialize themselves in the control of firearms. The males have a rough Serpent-Like skin that allows them to resist the heat of the Nucleus to withdraw energy, Machinery and weapon of this place There are more places in the Tunnels that still inexplorated and there's no idea of What lives There. PICTURES COMING SOON PEEPLE! Quote
The Dor Posted July 2, 2009 Posted July 2, 2009 Ok I would looove to see some pictures of these places Antrozek. :D Also I'm a little confused on the "Nucleus" concept? So there is now a minor debate going on over whether we should stick to the set thing. This should be the ideas and actual meat of the discussion, and we should vote on it in the voting thread. Quote
S-N Posted July 2, 2009 Posted July 2, 2009 (edited) I'm loving this. Just one idea: Toa Ignika returns. The Ignika's mind somehow gets free from Mata Nui's and is able to create a separate body for itself. Since Ignika needs a lot of energy to keep both his and Mata Nui's body existing, Ignika can't access none of it's powers to help survive/defend themselves from the experiment. This would cause a harder challenge for the team. Thoughts? Edited July 2, 2009 by S-N Quote
The Dor Posted July 2, 2009 Posted July 2, 2009 I'm loving this.Just one idea: Toa Ignika returns. The Ignika's mind somehow gets free from Mata Nui's and is able to create a separate body for itself. Since Ignika needs a lot of energy to keep both his and Mata Nui's body existing, Ignika can't access none of it's powers to help survive/defend themselves from the experiment. This would cause a harder challenge for the team. Thoughts? That seems a little unnecessary to me. I think he could easily return once Mata Nui is inhabiting the failed GS though. Quote
S-N Posted July 2, 2009 Posted July 2, 2009 That seems a little unnecessary to me. I think he could easily return once Mata Nui is inhabiting the failed GS though. True. Or Toa Ignika does return, only to be taken over by The Mind at the end to fight Mata Nui? Quote
The Dor Posted July 2, 2009 Posted July 2, 2009 True. Or Toa Ignika does return, only to be taken over by The Mind at the end to fight Mata Nui? Well depending on how he returns, couldn't Mata Nui just dissolve him using the Mask? Quote
S-N Posted July 2, 2009 Posted July 2, 2009 Well depending on how he returns, couldn't Mata Nui just dissolve him using the Mask? Hmm. Mata Nui could possibly need the Ignika to start the GS body. But since he can't use the Ignika's powers at his will, he creates the Ignika a body to help? Quote
The Dor Posted July 2, 2009 Posted July 2, 2009 Hmm. Mata Nui could possibly need the Ignika to start the GS body. But since he can't use the Ignika's powers at his will, he creates the Ignika a body to help? Probably by the end of this year he will have, certainly by the end of next he would have. And if he created the Ignika's body, he can easily destroy it too so then Mind wouldn't have any use for it. Quote
The Alchemyst Posted July 2, 2009 Posted July 2, 2009 (edited) I think Toa Ignika bring difficulty on the control of the Ignika, and the fact that he's still a "toddler", in some ways. Hmm... Branching off of what S-N said, what if, since Toa Ignika still is easily influenced, gets persuaded by the Mind, and its mindly ways? The Ignika is lost after MN is captured. MN's soul is in the body, but the Ignika's soul is in the Ignika, unknown to the Mind. The Ignika creates a body, the Mind persuades the Ignika to help him jumpstart his large body. After that's done, the gang rushes in, only be too late, and as the Mind takes over the Large Body, and instead of Mata Nui fighting the Mind, he fights the Ignika. Wait, MN has to win, right. >.> Maybe the Ignika is taken over by the Mind? But that comes back to being pointless. Oy. Oh, and we'll still need a number of Glatorian. I really think we need more than 3, and a balance of 3 old and maybe 2-3 new works. So maybe like 5 Glatorian, 4 Agori. And refugees [1-3] found that help them along the way? Oh, and what about this? A half a year for every region explored. First "half of the year" will be the good guys I guess. And then every "wave", which doesn't need to fit the 6-6-2 or 6-0-8 Can-Small-Titan thing will be the bad guys, or refugees they meet along the way. Maybe from leg, to leg to arm to arm to head to the chest, or maybe abridged to like leg-arm-head-chest sorta thing. Love the environments Antrozek, the Vehrahk can fit in the Head Section. And Takanuva Nui, I like the idea, but that'd just be helping the Mind, wouldn't it? =/ [-TA-] Edited July 2, 2009 by The Alchemyst Quote
S-N Posted July 2, 2009 Posted July 2, 2009 (edited) I think Toa Ignika bring difficulty on the control of the Ignika, and the fact that he's still a "toddler", in some ways.Hmm... Branching off of what S-N said, what if, since Toa Ignika still is easily influenced, gets persuaded by the Mind, and its mindly ways? The Ignika is lost after MN is captured. MN's soul is in the body, but the Ignika's soul is in the Ignika, unknown to the Mind. The Ignika creates a body, the Mind persuades the Ignika to help him jumpstart his large body. Or Toa Ignika comes back to help distract the Mind. Toa Ignika goes in his own separate way to help distract the Mind by making him think he's Mata Nui. This helps Mata Nui and the group get to the Core of the body. Edited July 2, 2009 by S-N Quote
The Alchemyst Posted July 2, 2009 Posted July 2, 2009 I'd assume they're already at the core/chest/heart, since it's the place to restart the entire system. And how would they distract something that doesn't have a body at this point? =/ Quote
S-N Posted July 2, 2009 Posted July 2, 2009 I'd assume they're already at the core/chest/heart, since it's the place to restart the entire system.And how would they distract something that doesn't have a body at this point? =/ Well, some of the Experiments. =p Quote
Holy Diver Posted July 3, 2009 Posted July 3, 2009 Idea: A lost Barbarian chieftain from the Northern Frosts arrives on Bara Magna. He fights by Mata Nui's side and pledges the support of his people in the battles to come. A relatively minor character and could be represented by either a canister set or titan set. Quote
S-N Posted July 3, 2009 Posted July 3, 2009 Another idea: The set for Gresh could include a experimented/mutated rock steed that he finds inside the body. Quote
Zip Posted July 3, 2009 Posted July 3, 2009 This almost feels like an RPG. Without the unnecessary bull, of course. Anyways, don't think the part where Mata Nui fights Makuta on the other moon should happen until the year after. It's already been planned that Makuta doesn't return until 2011, so how about we have the half-repaired/half-damaged Bara Mata Nui robot "accidently" trigger itself to fly to that other Bara Magnan Moon, and then deactivate the moment it crash-lands there. The surviving characters wander the new planet in 2011 and eventually fix Bara Mata Nui with the help of the GBs and residents of that moon/planet, right before Makuta Mech arrives on the planet to fight Mata Nui. Sounds jumbled right now, but it's late, can't think straight. Quote
Antrozek Posted July 3, 2009 Posted July 3, 2009 you know what could be funny? that you could get all the story developed, then, you make scripts, and i make them comics! :D Quote
Bfahome Posted July 3, 2009 Posted July 3, 2009 This is getting kind of confusing. ._. Maybe we should take it one thing at a time? Like, who accompanies MN to the body or how they fall in or if any Vorox follow them. Quote
The Dor Posted July 3, 2009 Posted July 3, 2009 This almost feels like an RPG. Without the unnecessary bull, of course.Anyways, don't think the part where Mata Nui fights Makuta on the other moon should happen until the year after. It's already been planned that Makuta doesn't return until 2011, so how about we have the half-repaired/half-damaged Bara Mata Nui robot "accidently" trigger itself to fly to that other Bara Magnan Moon, and then deactivate the moment it crash-lands there. The surviving characters wander the new planet in 2011 and eventually fix Bara Mata Nui with the help of the GBs and residents of that moon/planet, right before Makuta Mech arrives on the planet to fight Mata Nui. Sounds jumbled right now, but it's late, can't think straight. Ok I actually like that idea a lot. Maybe only SOME of the proto GS lifts off, and out of the left over remains, some of the remains that were left on BM, some of the inhabitants escape and terrorize the Agori and Glatorian. So when Mata Nui and the other Glatorian and moon inhabitants inevitably make it back to BM, the entire planet will be filled with proto creatures and such. That would be sweeeeeet. Quote
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