Pictures of UPCOMING Knights Kingdom 2 Year 3 Action Figures

[blueandwhite]

This is great, because now the old castle fans can't deny that this new line is the closest to an old castle style

Actually these sets couldn't be further from the older castle stuff.

-they have more weapons

-better armor

-more hosre accessories

-new seige equipment

-more detailed pieces

-better parts for other MOCs

I would say these are better in all aspects except basic bricks and plant life.

- More weapons? Maybe. Its hard to say at this point. Still, looking at the pictures, I think your probably right.

- Better armour? I don't think so. The Knights from the early 1990s had better armour IMO. This armour is still too sci-fi for my tastes. The colours are a definite imrovement though.

- more horse accessories? I'm not sure about that. Heck, it looks like KKII, year 3 only has one horse to begin with. The rider (King Jayko) has a lance, and sword. The horse has a saddle and headpiece. Nothing we haven't seen with earlier castle sets.

-New seige equipment. Of course, older castle sets had old seige equipment.

-More detailed pieces. I disagree. More specialized pieces, with limited use yes. More detailed? I'm not sure I buy into that one.

-Better parts for MOCs. Certainly not! These sets are little more than a collection of arches and pre-fab wall pieces. There is no underlying structure here. Unfortunately, KKII is still more flash than substance. The only stand out set we've seen from this line has been Vladek's castle. Everything else has been sub-standard at best.

I would say that these are worse in almost every respect. These sets are more suited to young children and set collectors. Too bad really.

[SuvieD]

Unfortunately, KKII is still more flash than substance. The only stand out set we've seen from this line has been Vladek's castle. Everything else has been sub-standard at best.

I would say that these are worse in almost every respect. These sets are more suited to young children and set collectors. Too bad really.

Dear Mr. blueandwhite,

In response to your ongoing defense of older LEGO castle and attacks on the newer I hereby issue you a challange. Each of us may choose a set priced at or on the $15-25 range when originally in retail. You may choose any set issued between 1984-1997 an I will in turn choose a set between KK2 year one and two. The goal is to forever set aside the value debate of both.

The builders duel contest will consist of a series of alternate MOCs built only from your choosen set. You will need to display

-a solid level of play value

-ability to use the set in other themes

-a suitable alternate MOC using nearly all of the parts

You may build as many or as few MOCs as you want to illustrate your point but you must have at least one for each point of display. When you are finished you will need to photograph and post your duel entry in a soon to be created thread with a poll in which the good members of EB can vote to cast a judgement on the validity of your accusations that KK2 is inferior to Classic Castle themes.

Do you accept this challange?

[blueandwhite]

Dear Mr. blueandwhite,

In response to your ongoing defense of older LEGO castle and attacks on the newer I hereby issue you a challange.  Each of us may choose a set priced at or on the $15-25 range when originally in retail.  You may choose any set issued between 1984-1997 an I will in turn choose a set between KK2 year one and two.  The goal is to forever set aside the value debate of both.

The builders duel contest will consist of a series of alternate MOCs built only from your choosen set.  You will need to display

-a solid level of play value

-ability to use the set in other themes

-a suitable alternate MOC using nearly all of the parts

You may build as many or as few MOCs as you want to illustrate your point but you must have at least one for each point of display.  When you are finished you will need to photograph and post your duel entry in a soon to be created thread with a poll in which the good members of EB can vote to cast a judgement on the validity of your accusations that KK2 is inferior to Classic Castle themes.

Do you accept this challange?

This is an interesting challenge.

I'd love to take you up on it in the new year :) .

A few questions though.

Why the non-castle (other themes) category? What does this have to do with set quality? I mean, for me KKII looks like a cross between Space and Castle LEGO. Perhaps you can explain why you wish to include this category. Heck, I'll even concede that KKII is more useful for Space MOCing.

When you say between $15-25 dollars, what KKII sets are you including in that price range? Are you including sets you have acquired on sale at places such as Wal-Mart or Amazon, or are you talking MSRP?

Finally, perhaps we have different criteria for judging what constitutes a good set, but how about categories such as build-quality or detail? Your categories seem to overlook these areas. For me, the appearance of the model is just as important as playability. I think it would only be fair that these areas also be given consideration.

An interesting challenge. Still, I think we have very different views as to what makes a LEGO set good. I don't think this building battle will change anything for either of us. I'm far less interested in playability than you are, and it would seem that the appearance of a model isn't as important to you as it is to me. These things are all subjective of course.

And as for sets, I will probably be using either 6067, 6054, or 6059.

Still, this sounds like fun. In the New Year, lets give it a go *knight* !

Later.

[Dragon King]

Sounds intresting.

[SuvieD]

After the new year then. Huzzah!

[KimT]

I think the helmets are cool - the new metal colour will go very well with the Vikings theme. *y*

Other than that I think that for one full year we'll have to deal with a second hand design and lousy setups.

What KK needs is a little more of the enthusiasm put into earlier castle themes - I haven't seen a decent castle since the launching of KK. They're all "frontviewed" and like scenery for a movie - run around it and you'll win the war *n*

I think I'll save the money for Vikings and just buy the helmets on Bricklink. *satis*

KimT

And no I don't think the ship is a copy of that awesome design - wishfull thinking ;)

[Kahgarak]

What's the Tower of Ages?

The Tower of Ages is a mythical building that King Jayko and Lord Vladek ''race'' to.

At the top,you see that orb?Well,

*SPOILERETH*

...At the end of next year,King Jayko imprisons Vladek in that orb,which will probably mean that we'll see the Sorcerer in 2007.

*SPOILERETH*

[crispen]

cool! i didnt even know that!

and my freinds think im the knightskingdom smartie!

[Kahgarak]

Thanketh you. :-D

[WesternOutlaw]

Great figs, nice assortment of weapons, but the structures seem no less <insert that tiresome argument> than the other KK sets. I just wish Lego would return standard bricks.

[gylman]

Great figs, nice assortment of weapons, but the structures seem no less <insert that tiresome argument> than the other KK sets. I just wish Lego would return standard bricks.

Amen brother! Truer words were never spoken.

[Mister Phes]

We want more of a substaintial structure in our Knights Kingdom sets! Not that I really care, but I still agree... Or is that a contradiction?

[Aeturnus]

Castle series died a few years ago.I really doub't we will ever see it return to a decent theme.

Bring Back the Lion Knights ,Black Falcons ,Forest people.

I have nieces and nephews who come over as i have a lego store .So i have alot of lego ..they all want my older classic sets.My nephew said "I don't like the rainbow men"

CASTLE IS DEAD!.

I know it sounds like blasphemy but seriously..since the Royal Knights..It has gone down hill .

Castle was successful why change it.

Lego has only done badly since it changed everything simplified it and basically stifled kids imaginations.

Also that aside 90% of my webstores customers are adult collectors.I think Lego is still ignoring AFOLS. Most of my customers are over 25 and some are even into their 50s

RIP CASTLE series. :^D

Unfortunately there is nothing that we can do about it.

Sure Lego might release a few legends on Shop at home.

They will sell out because they are far better than what lego produces now ..but at the end of the day the people who work at Lego are far too thick to learn and revive lego.

I turnover 10K a month on lego and perhaps 5% if that is current lego as my customers do not want what lego makes these days.

Anyway I don't like the new sets from what I can see .

Grab hoard buy as much old classics as you can get your hands on and leave it at that.

Miracles do not happen

[WesternOutlaw]

Sure Lego might release a few legends on Shop at home.

They will sell out because they are far better than what lego produces now ..but at the end of the day the people who work at Lego are far too thick to learn and revive lego.

I couldn't agree with you more. It's also definately time for Lego to release another Legend.

[christopher110]

Why.......... the new knights kingdom sets are not as good as year 2005............ I'm kinda disappointed

[Christian]

Here are the official names of the new sets:

Dracus Attack Barge

Gargoyle Bridge

Tower of Ages

the names were taken from here Link

BTW the article also says that the sets come out in August

[Cutty]

WOW! way to slip the calendar topic...damn. I will keep the below anyway...it's just as good as my attention span gets these days...

found on classic-castle.com, original picture from lowlug.nl. taken from a lego calendar

might i direct your eyes towards:

- golden euro armor

- cool prints on shields (bull, snake, falcon, scorpion on black, shield of ages [see fig in the tower])

- WHITE dragon heads (tower top)

- jayko head w/ beard (I LOVE bearded faces ^^)

- "scabbers" rat reused

- crossbows in reddish-brown

though i am weary of

- continuing catapulterization

[gusmoore17]

You know, looking at this pic makes me feel as if I was sucking a lemon: first I feel really happy because of the advance that this beloved line to me is showing with this set (excellent king Jayko, impressive shields -the ages one!!!!-, best Vladek minifig, lovely catapult, grey pieces!!!!, new knights, the dragon heads, etc:) but then, second, I feel kind of disapointed because I have really defended too much this line and the truth is that it looks very very <insert that tiresome argument>. It looks like the duplo sets except for the uses of little system bricks from time to time, but....come on......after the greatest castle that Vladek's Fortress was, I mean :'( :( *sing*

and the stickers!!!! megablocking stickers........ :/ ..........and then I look at it again and my mind says "buy it, buy it"....oh my. Well, let's hope there are more than three sets out for this line.

Just like Padme Amidala says before she dies........A New Hope

[Cutty]

I don't mind the stickers. and as good as vladek's fortress is (got 2 of that baby ^^...jelly belly knights are piling in my castle-box...), there is potential in this set.

In fact I embrace stickers for being optional. Increases usability of bricks in my book.

[SuvieD]

I will get it anyway. I never keep the sets built as they are supposed to be and I am sure that other than the 10 (yes count them) large castle parts this set is made up mostly of bricks, slopes and arches. It has to have something near 275 pieces. After you factor out all the figures, accessories and the saw launcher it is down to something like 200. Which means one out of twenty is a <insert that tiresome argument> part.

The stickers are annoying to no end though.

[Cutty]

btw: did anyone ever stumble over pricepoints given by any source? I don't remind ever having read any, though am interested in how much I will spend on .the tower set...

thanks for any info in advance.

[DoubleT]

Hi

Here is the the cut version of the pic Legomilk have found on the net.

Thank you Legomilk :)

[blueandwhite]

I'm still not that excited about KKII, year 3.

Still, a few observations...

The minifigs are noticeably improved this year. Fortunately, the monochromatic colour-schemes of the previous two years have been done away with. I cannot stress what an improvement this is. Unfortunately, it also looks like 8823 is going to have fewer minfigs than first believed. The original pictures clearly show the set with all of the new Knights. This shot suggests that the set will be missing two of these guys which is unfortunate. The pantless fellow, and the fellow with Danju's visor are notably absent. I suppose that LEGO felt that this set wasn't of sufficient size to warrant the inclusion of all four of the new guys.

Still, I'm not too fond of the KKII, year 3 designs. Most of the sets don't actually look like anything. Vladek's Fortress was a strong design, however that seems to be something of an exception. This just seems like a typical collection of slopes and arches. I do hope that we see something fresh soon, as I'm just not keen on these designs.

Later.

[Jipay]

I am much more excited by those pics than the previous ones. I think minifigs were improved a lot and I even start to like the look of the castles (a little bit, still not on top, but better). The detail I like is the old man in the middle of the tower with a hammer in his hand *satis*

[DoubleT]

Yes Evolution can be a good thing ;)