simonjedi Posted November 19, 2011 Posted November 19, 2011 Not that any of the other shows you listed are much better. Look how wrong this opinion is! How so? Literally every other episode seems to cater some some weird creepy fetish. There's episodes for furries, Freeze fetishes, inflations, sticky feet, all sorts. Quote
sok117 Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 That said, I'm looking forward to Batgirl Beware the Batman. Really, I'm dreading it like the plague! Katana as the sidekick? A gun-toting alfred? Doctor Pyg? And worst of all Batmans face is a triangle! Quote
Oky Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 Literally every other episode seems to cater some some weird creepy fetish. There's episodes for furries, Freeze fetishes, inflations, sticky feet, all sorts. Huh. I never looked at it that way. Really, I'm dreading it like the plague! Katana as the sidekick? A gun-toting alfred? Doctor Pyg? And worst of all Batmans face is a triangle! What's wrong with that? Alfred is awesome no matter what, and Katana was pretty cool too in Brave and the Bold, and the shape of Batman's head fits the mask on the Batmobile. I gotta admit that the choice of more obscure villains is questionable at best (wasn't that partly what Brave and the Bold was already doing?) but I'll reserve my judgment until I see the show. Quote
Fred Daniel Yam Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 Finisher watching Teen Titans, pretty sad that they decided to kill it off. Quote
sok117 Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 What's wrong with that? Alfred is awesome no matter what, and Katana was pretty cool too in Brave and the Bold, and the shape of Batman's head fits the mask on the Batmobile. I gotta admit that the choice of more obscure villains is questionable at best (wasn't that partly what Brave and the Bold was already doing?) but I'll reserve my judgment until I see the show. Alfred is not a dual pistol wielding vigilante, Katana is okay in small doses, but I really don't want her to be reoccurring, just think about how stupid it will be if every episode she has a sword, but doesn't kill anyone. It's like TMNT all over again. The shape of Batman's head bothers me a little, but not that much to be honest. The idea behind Brave and the Bold was good in the fact that they were always brining in new villains and heroes which kept it fun, but for BTB, Doctor Pyg is suppose to replace The Joker in the amount of airtime he gets, and can anyone really take that much Dr. Pyg? Quote
just2good Posted November 23, 2011 Posted November 23, 2011 I started watching MLP:FiM around August. It's a great show. Also, recently I've been watching a "cartoon" called Home Movies. It has a cult-following of some sorts, but that's because it's a hilarious show! Quote
Aanchir Posted November 29, 2011 Posted November 29, 2011 I started watching MLP:FiM around August. It's a great show. Also, recently I've been watching a "cartoon" called Home Movies. It has a cult-following of some sorts, but that's because it's a hilarious show! I got into MLP:FiM myself just a couple weeks ago. Now I'm hooked. That's really the only cartoon I've been watching, since I don't watch much TV while I'm up at college. I plan to check out the Ninjago TV show when it makes its US debut this Friday. Quote
Zarkan Posted December 11, 2011 Posted December 11, 2011 Well, I just watched it, and it certainly wasn't bad, but still not great. I thought the Doom Patrol episode was much sadder. You know, I think Batmite was right, absolutely right. The only truly good episode to come out of this show was Chill of the Night, and while I respect the creators' attempt at a lighthearted Batman show, I definitely agree with Batmite that it kinda failed and say good riddance. The latest episodes especially were pretty awful (who the hell is Mazing Man and who cares? ) although that may have been intended as a warm-up for the finale. That said, I'm looking forward to Batgirl Beware the Batman. Seriously? This is a show where Batman poses as Owlman in one episode and teams up with Joker in another, Neil Patrick Harris stars as the villian of a musical episode, Aquaman actually is useful and even COOL, and the only episode you like is one that (while good) might as well have been an episode of B:TAS? I think the most telling comment is the second one I bolded. Sure, nobody outside of hardcore DC fandom probably knows who Amazing Man or Psycho Pirate or Ambush Bug or even Gorilla Grodd is, but that's the entire point of the show. While it has Batman in the title, The Brave and the Bold was just as much a world for its creators to give exposure to scores of characters that would have otherwise probably never appeared in animation. I don't think anyone can really fault them for that, especially since (in my and many other's opinion) they almost invariably made the characters fresh and enjoyable. And I feel its sad that the usual 65 episode limit cut in, when it definitely deserved at least three fulll seasons. Ah well, at least it was great while it lasted. It's a good thing I have Green Lantern and Young Justice to look foward to the next couple of years - providing that they actually make it beyond the initial twenty-six episodes. Quote
Oky Posted December 12, 2011 Posted December 12, 2011 I gotta admit, those episodes were pretty good, but still, due to their inherent weirdness it was somewhat hard to fully enjoy them. Aquaman was useful for once, yes, but still somewhat annoying, and therefore not cool. Aquaman will never be cool. (Although Aqua lad from YJ is a different story). As I said, I respect the creators' attempt to expose less well known DC characters to the masses, but why they would want to do that with lame characters such as Mazing Man (that's without an "A" apparently) is still a mystery to me. And doing so in the form of a silly Hanna-Barbara style short wasn't the best way to approach it in my opinion. And I wouldn't call Gorilla Grodd an unknown character. He appeared in a few shows before, sometimes even as the main antagonist. And yes, let's hope that YJ and GL will continue. The premiere episodes of GL were pretty good, although I'm still not sold on the cheap-looking CGI. Quote
Aanchir Posted December 12, 2011 Posted December 12, 2011 'fraid I might start some arguments with this question, but... ...any bronies here? I watched My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic all the way through a couple weeks ago, and now I'm hooked. It's got pretty great storytelling, a fun and colorful art and animation style, and of course really engaging characters. I also recently saw the US debut of the new season of the LEGO Ninjago cartoon, which is very awesome, but that can be discussed elsewhere. The other TV show I'm anticipating greatly is Legend of Korra, which I'm sure is much more understandable to many people here than ponies. Quote
Oky Posted December 12, 2011 Posted December 12, 2011 You already said that. And it's quite obvious that there are bronies here, looking at the pony avatars some members have. Yeah, I also saw those two episodes of Ninjago. It's a decent show, but a bit childish and cheesy obviously. If it weren't Lego, I probably wouldn't watch it. Quote
Brickmamba Posted December 12, 2011 Posted December 12, 2011 just added Boku Ha Tomodachi Ga Sukunai to my anime watching list, can be described as cheeky high school comedy, quite new so nice animations, currently upto ep. 10 Quote
Aanchir Posted December 12, 2011 Posted December 12, 2011 You already said that. And it's quite obvious that there are bronies here, looking at the pony avatars some members have. Yeah, I also saw those two episodes of Ninjago. It's a decent show, but a bit childish and cheesy obviously. If it weren't Lego, I probably wouldn't watch it. That was actually my first post in this topic. I've mentioned MLP before in the Kre-O topic, but I figured it was worth bringing the question up in this one where the show can actually be discussed. The Ninjago TV series might be more enjoyable for me because I've read the Ninjago books by Greg Farshtey. But in general it reminds me of a lot of cartoons I enjoyed during my adolescence like Jackie Chan Adventures and Xiaolin Showdown. It's not nearly as deep or complex as Avatar: The Last Airbender, although like the other shows mentioned it fits within the same "fantasy martial arts" genre. I feel the humor and zaniness of the series is in keeping with the playful spirit of LEGO. However, unlike previous endeavors like The Adventures of Clutch Powers, LEGO Island, and even the LEGO Atlantis TV special, it unfortunately doesn't include building as a core plot element (perhaps the closest it comes to that is the "Tornado of Creation", the special Spinjitzu technique the Ninja use near the end of the first season). In fact, the show in some ways keeps the fact that it's a LEGO theme very subdued, with (for example) the various vehicles stylized to show fewer studs. I kind of understand the reason, though, as the gimmickiness of a lot of explicit LEGO references could potentially distract from the characterization and plot. Quote
Peanuts Posted December 12, 2011 Posted December 12, 2011 ...any bronies here? I watched My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic all the way through a couple weeks ago, and now I'm hooked. It's got pretty great storytelling, a fun and colorful art and animation style, and of course really engaging characters. Eeyup. In fact, I got the show's attention by the MLP thread on EB. I really love that show, I'm checking up on EqD now pretty much every day. Quote
Tamamono Posted December 12, 2011 Posted December 12, 2011 'fraid I might start some arguments with this question, but... ...any bronies here? I watched My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic all the way through a couple weeks ago, and now I'm hooked. It's got pretty great storytelling, a fun and colorful art and animation style, and of course really engaging characters. I'm a brony. I started watching over the summer, and since then I haven't been able to stop! In fact, I got the show's attention by the MLP thread on EB. Strangely enough, that's how I was introduced to it as well. I'm checking up on EqD now pretty much every day. So am I! Quote
Oky Posted December 12, 2011 Posted December 12, 2011 That was actually my first post in this topic. Eenope. Check a few posts above your "first" post. I agree on what you said about Ninjago, but the fact that it detracts from the Lego aspect of the show and tries to be more like other shows in its genre makes it feel very cliche to me. Strangely enough, that's how I was introduced to it as well. Eeyup, same here. I guess we owe Emperor Claudius Rome a lot for drawing us into the herd. I still don't get why that thread was closed. If we can have a thread for every other major fandom, why not this?! I too frequent Euestria Daily now, although I try to keep my visits to a minimum as I can't take all the pony madness on there sometimes. Plus I HATE shipping. Quote
Tamamono Posted December 12, 2011 Posted December 12, 2011 Eeyup, same here. I guess we owe Emperor Claudius Rome a lot for drawing us into the herd. I still don't get why that thread was closed. If we can have a thread for every other major fandom, why not this?! You have to admit, it was starting to turn into a spamfest. Most of the posts there were just people trying to persuade lightningtiger to join the herd. I too frequent Euestria Daily now, although I try to keep my visits to a minimum as I can't take all the pony madness on there sometimes. Plus I HATE shipping. Really? I, for one, welcome the pony madness. I agree with you on shipping though. Along with GrimDark and Sad fics, I try to avoid those as much as possible. Quote
Oky Posted December 12, 2011 Posted December 12, 2011 You have to admit, it was starting to turn into a spamfest. Most of the posts there were just people trying to persuade lightningtiger to join the herd. I guess so... Really? I, for one, welcome the pony madness. I agree with you on shipping though. Along with GrimDark and Sad fics, I try to avoid those as much as possible. It's just that a lot of people on there are just a bit too obsessed with this show. And don't get me started on all the immature posts such as the "First" comments. I don't mind a sad fic once in a while; the sadness makes the characters even more adorable, if that's even possible. Quote
Peanuts Posted December 12, 2011 Posted December 12, 2011 Really? I, for one, welcome the pony madness. I agree with you on shipping though. Along with GrimDark and Sad fics, I try to avoid those as much as possible. Pony Madness, Yay! I don't mind sad or slightly dark stories, but I too despise shipping. I don't read that many fanfics, anyway. And those "first"s, I try to ignore them. Quote
Tamamono Posted December 12, 2011 Posted December 12, 2011 It's just that a lot of people on there are just a bit too obsessed with this show. And don't get me started on all the immature posts such as the "First" comments. I don't mind a sad fic once in a while; the sadness makes the characters even more adorable, if that's even possible. Well, you get those "First" comments almost everywhere (Memebase in particular), and they're pretty annoying no matter where they appear. Like Peanuts said, the best thing to do is to just ignore them. Pony Madness, Yay! I don't mind sad or slightly dark stories, but I too despise shipping. I don't read that many fanfics, anyway. And those "first"s, I try to ignore them. Yeah, some things just shouldn't be mixed with pony. I don't have time to read much fanfiction, but I've been trying to read as many as I can since I'm trying to write some myself (I'm not very good ). Quote
Aanchir Posted December 12, 2011 Posted December 12, 2011 Eenope. Check a few posts above your "first" post. Whoops, I thought I had checked thoroughly before posting. My mistake/ I agree on what you said about Ninjago, but the fact that it detracts from the Lego aspect of the show and tries to be more like other shows in its genre makes it feel very cliche to me. I don't see how it's cliche just by not playing up the LEGO angle. I think it's very original, especially with the characters' different personas. I can't say I've ever known a character quite as quirky and mysterious as Zane. You look at The Adventures of Clutch Powers, which did milk the LEGO aspect for all it was worth, and you see something that's still enjoyable and unique, but a lot cheesier at times and much less serious in general. Quote
Tamamono Posted December 12, 2011 Posted December 12, 2011 (edited) And before I forget to, I should post about another anime I'm a big fan of: Death Note! Any Death Note fans here? Edited December 12, 2011 by Captain Tamamono Quote
Tinn-man Posted December 12, 2011 Posted December 12, 2011 (edited) Wow, apparently this is a pony thread now. Gotta say, I got sucked into the show a while back, and it's pretty dang good. Being a person interested in pursuing animation as a career, I first checked it out because I heard that the animation was top notch. I'm amazed that they make it look so good using flash. By the time I had seen the animation, I got involved in the characters and story, and just hung along for the ride. Can't believe that I'm an 18 year old male and I love a show about colorful, friendship ponies. But, I mean, last week's episode when Spike and Rarity were falling to their deaths, and Spike confesses his crush to her. Those tears that well up in her eyes as she puts her hand (hoof?) over his mouth. Man... I do make a point to stay away from the super obsessive fan communities though. I don't read fan-fiction. At all. For anything. And after seeing some of the more... questionable... fanart, I really try to stay away from all of that as well. A little off topic, but has anyone seen any good pony mocs? I've seen one pretty good Rainbow Dash sculpture, but that's about it. Any ideas for making minifig scale Mane 6? Edited December 12, 2011 by Tinn-man Quote
Oky Posted December 13, 2011 Posted December 13, 2011 I don't see how it's cliche just by not playing up the LEGO angle. I think it's very original, especially with the characters' different personas. I can't say I've ever known a character quite as quirky and mysterious as Zane. You look at The Adventures of Clutch Powers, which did milk the LEGO aspect for all it was worth, and you see something that's still enjoyable and unique, but a lot cheesier at times and much less serious in general. It's just that Ninjago is way too similar to Power Rangers, TMNT, and such shows. Sure, the characters are slightly different, but the concept is the exact same, that of a team of color-coded heroes with powers based on elements and gimmicky vehicles pitted against supernatural villains. Even the colors are the same as in Power Rangers! The only real difference is the Lego universe in which Ninjago is set, but they're not emphasizing it enough to make a difference. A little off topic, but has anyone seen any good pony mocs? I've seen one pretty good Rainbow Dash sculpture, but that's about it. Any ideas for making minifig scale Mane 6? Yeah, that Rainbow Dash sure is awesome, and so is this Fluttershy and these! But minifig scale? That's gonna be tough. It's nearly impossible to brick-build them at that scale, so the only other option would be to customize Lego horses to look like the characters. Speaking of minifigs and ponies, here's my sigfig as a pony. Quote
Aanchir Posted December 14, 2011 Posted December 14, 2011 It's just that Ninjago is way too similar to Power Rangers, TMNT, and such shows. Sure, the characters are slightly different, but the concept is the exact same, that of a team of color-coded heroes with powers based on elements and gimmicky vehicles pitted against supernatural villains. Even the colors are the same as in Power Rangers! The only real difference is the Lego universe in which Ninjago is set, but they're not emphasizing it enough to make a difference. But when you narrow things down that far, lots of things start to look the same. That doesn't mean they're not different in their details. AFAIK none of the Power Rangers characters had to tame dragons (although I could be wrong; it's a long-running franchise I know very little about). Remove the "vehicles" and "elements" parts (the latter of which I didn't even think TMNT and Power Rangers had, and you have Knights' Kingdom II. Remove the "vehicles" and (possibly) "supernatural" parts and you have BIONICLE. Remove the "elements" and (again, depending on your perspective) "supernatural" parts and you have LEGO Alpha Team. But none of these themes is very similar to Ninjago: there is no character remotely resembling Zane in either (which is surprising, considering that BIONICLE had over 100 characters), nor is there any character strongly resembling Nya. Ninjago has a lot of things in common with other series, but a lot of that is just because those are storytelling techniques that have been proven to work. Color-coded characters can be found in loads of toylines like My Little Pony that have very little in common with Ninjago (well, other than the original Ninjago TV special having some parallels to the first two MLP:FiM episodes). The same applies for gimmicky (if you want to call them that) vehicles, especially in LEGO themes like Alpha Team. Elemental powers appear in Magic: The Gathering, Pokemon, Captain Planet, and Avatar: The Last Airbender. Supernatural villains are common to a lot of fantasy stories including Lord of the Rings, The Mummy, and Pirates of the Caribbean. All in all you just named a bunch of extremely fiction tropes that Ninjago happens to share with other things. That doesn't mean there aren't unique characteristics that make Ninjago enjoyable, nor does it mean that the characteristics it shares with other things are automatically impossible to enjoy in the show's unique context. Speaking of minifigs and ponies, here's my sigfig as a pony. Great design! Instantly recognizable! Here's mine. Quote
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