Derek Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 In the thread containing the pictures of the Camel and Ostrich and Prince of Persia figures (look if you haven't seen), some people are already declaring it to similar to the Indy line, and saying that PoP may mean the end of Indy. I'm not familiar with the Prince of Persia, but I know that there is no way that it would be as familiar to the public as Dr. Jones. I would hate to see the end of the Indiana Jones line, as it is, IMO, the best license Lego has ever had (next to SW, of course) in terms of sets and figures. What do you think? -darthperson Quote
Emperor Claudius Rome Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 Yes they can They white headwrap opens a possibility for more indy sets Quote
legoindy01 Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 No, Indy can't end. It IS the best license next to star wars. In fact it is one of the best themes ever. I haven't seen the pics though, what them are they in? General or licensed? I'm gonna search. But Indy sells very well and is very well known. It won't end yet!!!! Quote
Emperor Claudius Rome Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 (edited) In lego and disney join forces Edited July 23, 2009 by Emperor Claudius Rome Quote
Fumoffu Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 I don't see why they can't coexist. Indy has a much broader setting and potentials for sets than Prince of Persia. Quote
SWMAN Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 I think that with POP coming up, Indy will die out. Indiana Jones is a dying franchise when it comes to serious marketability, while POP is an up and coming franchise with a ton of possibilities. Plus, when have you seen Lego have two themes that are so similar in many aspects? Spider-Man died before Batman came along. Johnny Thunder before Indiana Jones. Quote
Tinn-man Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 I've read that Disney doesn't like to stay with one company for very long at a time, and usually make products with other companies for only 1-2 years. Lucasarts is the other way around, as we have had Star Wars for ten years, and Indy for two. I think Indy will be around for 1-2 more years, and LEGO using Prince of Persia as a sort of transition between disney and Indy, and ultimately will serve as a replacement, or at least a transition to a replacement, in the long term, but Indy should still be able to thrive in the long term. Especially with talks of Indy 5 in the works. Actually for now, I see lego using some of these pieces to transition over into the Indiana Jones theme, such as the head wrap for a Map Room scene or even maybe one of the camels of Sallah. Indiana Jones FTW. Quote
JCC1004 Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 PoP seems to be based off the Cario part of the Indy moives. Indy is much much better. Some of the PoP figs would go very nice with Indy. Quote
Omicron Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 Space is similar to Star Wars, and both lines coexist. I don't see how Indy can be any remotely close to PoP. -Omi Quote
lego maniac Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 In my opinion i'd say that the prince of persia license helps ading pieces and faces that can be used for Indiana jones and other themes and i realy do not think this license will last long Mr. filius fog Quote
Spyder Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 In my point of view, Indy is actually improving because of the new PoP sets, look at all those new molds. Now Lego can put those pieces in Indy sets. I'll still buy PoP sets even if it replaces Indy. Quote
JCC1004 Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 Why would Lego make new molds for PoP and not Indy? I do hope we see some new Indy sets later! Quote
salty tbone Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 After the Ninja line flamed out far too soon, I don't hold my breath hoping any line lasts more than a couple years (well, except for Star Wars. That's just a license to print money. ). I'd like to see Indy continue, but who knows. Quote
SWMAN Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 Space is similar to Star Wars, and both lines coexist. I don't see how Indy can be any remotely close to PoP.-Omi While Space and Star Wars do both exist in space, they aren't very similar. If you compare figures and models, nothing looks alike. Now, compare what we have seen of POP and parts of Indiana Jones. While the rest of you are most likely right, and these new pieces will add to Indiana Jones, I think there is a chance that POP will take over. Quote
Omicron Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 While Space and Star Wars do both exist in space, they aren't very similar. Space ships, ray guns, and aliens is all the similarities you need. -Omi Quote
Derek Posted July 23, 2009 Author Posted July 23, 2009 I'm hoping that the Prince of Persia movie flops for two reasons- 1) The Indy license will have the long, prosperous life it deserves. 2) These sets won't sell, leaving them on clearance! Much like Speed Racer... I hope that this line is temporary, like Speed Racer. Unless it is a mutli-movie franchise, I can't see it living a long Lego life (try saying that ten times fast! ) Quote
HumanPackMule Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 From what I've seen of the PoP games, the setting is a bit different from Indy. I can see PoP competing more with the Castle line. Lego camels FTW! Quote
Athos Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 I think they'll last together. Though I'm not sure how well they'll compete with each other. Such they have similar aspects, but I imagine a lot of the Indy stuff sells to Indy fans and their children. While the PoP stuff will likely be sold to people who are more up on the most recent movies. PoP still seems like an off the wall license to me... But I can't see Lego risking alienating George Lucas by dropping his Indy license in favor of the Disney PoP license. They'll want to keep GL on their good side to preserve their cash cow Star Wars license. Steve Quote
Omicron Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 I think they'll last together. Though I'm not sure how well they'll compete with each other. Such they have similar aspects, but I imagine a lot of the Indy stuff sells to Indy fans and their children. While the PoP stuff will likely be sold to people who are more up on the most recent movies. PoP still seems like an off the wall license to me...But I can't see Lego risking alienating George Lucas by dropping his Indy license in favor of the Disney PoP license. They'll want to keep GL on their good side to preserve their cash cow Star Wars license. Steve They'll only drop Indy if Indy doesn't cough up the sales. -Omi Quote
Peppermint_M Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 Well, from a "in the public mind" point of view Indiana Jones sits on the backburner until a film pops up in the cinema. The Star Wars Lego coincided with the release of the new (at the time) Star Wars film. The excitement it drummed up and the incredible amount of star wars fanboys and nerdery it attracted meant it earned plenty of money when Lego had hit a creative slump and, lets face it, the thing is a behemoth, you can mine it for sets for decades even if you just release the same thing in new colours/parts to the obsessed fans and the latest batch of kids. The new trilogy meant it churned along for a few years, then the games gave it some more visibility and now there is Clone Wars. It has stayed in the public mind for a long time and with the new popular media created for it, more lego will be forthcoming. Prince of Persia is going to be a Disney film therefore it will have a massive publicity push close to release, meaning people will know about it and see it, from this simplistic point of view, the Lego sets could quite likely surplant the Indy sets as a new Indy film isn't forthcoming and therefore Indy won't be noticed by the fikkle public. The sets will certainly assist in the supply of extras to Indy if you want to carry it on. Quote
Svelte Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 Prince of Persia is a big event movie, and will be marketed with that in mind by all its merchandising partners. Even the Indy KOTCS sets were launched with a big fanfare but a shorter shelf-life than most Lego lines enjoy. The licence is probably a one-shot - I wouldn't be expecting wave after wave. Just like Speed Racer, only let's hope more successful. I don't think it would hurt to rest the Indy licence for a year, or cut back down on the number of sets released like Castle (three non-exclusive sets). Even if there was no PoP licence, I don't think Indy is a licence that can go on indefinitely in any case. In both the US & Europe, many of the sets were clearanced on S@H which doesn't shout 'Amazing sales!' to me, especially since they seemed to have been out of stores for a while. The really nice surprise is that these lines do look wonderfully compatible in many ways, which gives you room to (unofficially) expand your Indyverse. Kudos to the designers for their great work. Quote
Omicron Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 Well, from a "in the public mind" point of view Indiana Jones sits on the backburner until a film pops up in the cinema. The Star Wars Lego coincided with the release of the new (at the time) Star Wars film. The excitement it drummed up and the incredible amount of star wars fanboys and nerdery it attracted meant it earned plenty of money when Lego had hit a creative slump and, lets face it, the thing is a behemoth, you can mine it for sets for decades even if you just release the same thing in new colours/parts to the obsessed fans and the latest batch of kids. The new trilogy meant it churned along for a few years, then the games gave it some more visibility and now there is Clone Wars. It has stayed in the public mind for a long time and with the new popular media created for it, more lego will be forthcoming. Prince of Persia is going to be a Disney film therefore it will have a massive publicity push close to release, meaning people will know about it and see it, from this simplistic point of view, the Lego sets could quite likely surplant the Indy sets as a new Indy film isn't forthcoming and therefore Indy won't be noticed by the fikkle public.The sets will certainly assist in the supply of extras to Indy if you want to carry it on. Plus since the Prince of Persia film will be the first in its series, there is always the potential of sequels which can lead to more sets. -Omi Quote
Navy Trooper Fenson Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 I think that Prince of Persia helps Indy to get more new/detailed pieces, like the headwrap. I can see a set of the cardroom where Indy searches for Salomons temple. Also this headwraps could be used for Hatay/German soldiers for a Indy 3 tank set or Kübelwagen/truck. Prince of Persia could kill the dessert aspects of the Indy line, but which sets weren´t made from that, yet? Indy v.s. Swordman is already in stores, I don´t think that children want to have a set about the german mining expedition from Raiders and all other sets about the dessert would be cars and tanks with soldiers, completely different to PoP. I don´t have a bad feeling about this. Quote
Bobskink Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 Looking at the new parts I doubt Indian Jones will end, it will only benifit from it. Camels the new headbandages and army helmets, the people at Lego sure thought of the possibilty to use them in The Indy line when they produced them. But on the other hand, with Lego you never know. Quote
Darth Legolas Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 I have no idea what POP is, but it's got sweet minifigs. It's obviously Disney so I would never like it anyway. I personally think it would be Lego's ultimately dumbest move ever to replace IJ with this... weird stuff. But the minifigs are still cool! Quote
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