Glacarcheo Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 This looks like a pretty cool set, (un?)fortunately I'll probably spend that money on my wishlist or Bionicle. Quote
Smithy Posted August 4, 2009 Posted August 4, 2009 When I first set eyes on this set I though the linkage to the bucket looked rather flimsy compaired to the rest of the model. How strong is it? It looks like if you pushed the bucket from the side you'd get quite a bit of play on it. Excellent review and again, I love your photos Quote
SuperCow Posted August 4, 2009 Posted August 4, 2009 Nice review! I already was thinking of buying this set instead of the 8258 cranetruck. This set seems the a much more technic value then the cranetruck. Quote
5150 Lego Posted August 5, 2009 Posted August 5, 2009 OK, finally some time to comment. First off, than you Blackbird . I always enjoy your reviews as you take the time to highlight each function as well as the mechanics of said function. I have to say that this model really took me by surprise. i was expecting a generic 8459, but was pleasantly surprised to find out not only is it rigid and functional, but looks great to boot. The overall detail of this years sets are getting better and better. Glad to see that it retains 4WD like 8459, and the larger tires really give it a towering view. The LA also seem to work very well and give more precise control than pneumatics. Something that was a bit hard to do with 8459. Its a shame we have to buy the Power Functions separate,as that seems to be the only real draw back of this set. I'm curious about the steering though. You say that 8459 is more sharp. Is this due to its smaller size, or cause this set just doesn't incorporate a small turning radius? Overall I'm impressed. Thanks again for the review. Now get your but moving on 8258!! Quote
Blakbird Posted August 5, 2009 Author Posted August 5, 2009 OK, finally some time to comment. First off, than you Blackbird . I always enjoy your reviews as you take the time to highlight each I'm curious about the steering though. You're welcome! You say that 8459 is more sharp. Is this due to its smaller size, or cause this set just doesn't incorporate a small turning radius? Overall I'm impressed. Thanks again for the review. Now get your but moving on 8258!! 8459 has a smaller turning radius because the articulation angle is greater. I finished building 8258 last night! As I said elsewhere, I am deferring a review since Starstreak is already working on one. Quote
tomacwhite Posted August 5, 2009 Posted August 5, 2009 You're welcome!8459 has a smaller turning radius because the articulation angle is greater. I finished building 8258 last night! As I said elsewhere, I am deferring a review since Starstreak is already working on one. Some pics of 8258 like the ones you did for this would be great though, would you treat us to some? :) Quote
Blakbird Posted August 6, 2009 Author Posted August 6, 2009 Some pics of 8258 like the ones you did for this would be great though, would you treat us to some? :) Well, since you asked so nicely.... Look over in the 8258 thread in a few minutes. Quote
puddleglum Posted August 7, 2009 Posted August 7, 2009 Its a shame we have to buy the Power Functions separate,as that seems to be the only real draw back of this set. On the other hand, since many builders already have all the requisite PF elements, they probably appreciate that the set is $80 without PF elements instead of $100 or $110 with PF included. Quote
paul_delahaye Posted August 16, 2009 Posted August 16, 2009 Right, Just finished building my wheeled loader which I picked up at Legoland Windsor yesterday, a great build, I have one question, how many black connector pins did people have left over? normally I would only expect to have 1 left at the end as a spare but I have 4, just before I start trawling the instruction manuals comparing where I may have missed the step which says to use them! I wondered if anyone remembers how many they had left? Also there is another random item on this model, In instruction manual 2, page 2 (Step 49) I understand the point of the yellow beam for strength, but WTF is the vertical black 2x2 modified plate for? I wondered if anyone else spotted this? and had any ideas? Paul Quote
Front Posted August 16, 2009 Posted August 16, 2009 Right,Just finished building my wheeled loader which I picked up at Legoland Windsor yesterday, a great build, I have one question, how many black connector pins did people have left over? normally I would only expect to have 1 left at the end as a spare but I have 4, just before I start trawling the instruction manuals comparing where I may have missed the step which says to use them! I wondered if anyone remembers how many they had left? Paul I just checked the box where I currently just have the model sitting, and in there I have 3 black technic connectors, and 1 grey with no friction. A couple of gears and other small stuff too. Quote
Siegfried Posted August 16, 2009 Posted August 16, 2009 This means you get a bunch of bonus samples of this rare part! Indeed! I just assembled mine and that was a surprise. It's a wonderful model too! I wondered if anyone remembers how many they had left? Errr... seven. Also there is another random item on this model, In instruction manual 2, page 2 (Step 49) I understand the point of the yellow beam for strength, but WTF is the vertical black 2x2 modified plate for? I wondered if anyone else spotted this? and had any ideas? Isn't that for when the set it Power Functionised? The light brick junction goes there. Quote
Blakbird Posted August 16, 2009 Author Posted August 16, 2009 Also there is another random item on this model, In instruction manual 2, page 2 (Step 49) I understand the point of the yellow beam for strength, but WTF is the vertical black 2x2 modified plate for? I wondered if anyone else spotted this? and had any ideas? The yellow brick on the top is to attach the pole reverser when motorizing. The black one on the side is to attach the diode block of the LED lights when motorizing. It was nice of TLG to think ahead and provision these details to add Power Functions! I have done so to mine and it makes it much more enjoyable to use. Quote
CP5670 Posted August 16, 2009 Posted August 16, 2009 The yellow brick on the top is to attach the pole reverser when motorizing. The black one on the side is to attach the diode block of the LED lights when motorizing. It was nice of TLG to think ahead and provision these details to add Power Functions! I have done so to mine and it makes it much more enjoyable to use. I like how a lot of modern Technic sets are designed from the ground up with motorization in mind. The best example of this is the use of transmission ring switches to control two functions from one manual knob, as seen on this set or 8294, instead of using two manual knobs/cranks as was typically done in the past. I think the last time we saw something like this was way back in the early 80s, when some sets included differentials even though they didn't have engines. Quote
tomacwhite Posted August 17, 2009 Posted August 17, 2009 Blakbird (or anyone), have you built the B model yet? It looks really interesting too. Quote
Blakbird Posted August 17, 2009 Author Posted August 17, 2009 Blakbird (or anyone), have you built the B model yet? It looks really interesting too. I have not built the B model yet. I'll be building the B model of 8258 first. Quote
u98925 Posted August 19, 2009 Posted August 19, 2009 Blakbird (or anyone), have you built the B model yet? It looks really interesting too. I received this set today (for my birthday) and was thinking of building the B model first.....will see how things go over the next couple of days. Quote
Musikfreak Posted August 23, 2009 Posted August 23, 2009 (edited) I got my set yesterday and build it immediatly. Just a few words about it: It's excellent. Blakbird's review set my hopes for this set very high but it was all well justified and I'm not disappointed by this set. Thanks again for this great review. Just from pictures I sometimes thought that some parts of the loader looked strange (the long engine-overhang and the redirection lever after the LA for the tilting mechanism) but having it now standing in front of me it all looks great. The Technic models in the last years always looked a lot more "like the real thing" than in the early years and this doesn't disappoint either. I have alway regreted not getting 8459 because I just love the look of it and the little details. The 8265 loader is a very good "alternative" for me with outstanding looks and nice functionality. The only letdown for me is the steering - it's working ok but far from perfect - especially if you compare it to 8459 where the steering wheel in the cabin also moves. For me this is the best set of the year. Edited August 23, 2009 by Musikfreak Quote
tomacwhite Posted September 4, 2009 Posted September 4, 2009 UK users, Amazon UK have it on sale for £55 with free shipping :) http://www.amazon.co.uk/LEGO-Technic-8265-...ref=pd_sxp_f_pt Quote
DB24 Posted September 9, 2009 Posted September 9, 2009 When I first set eyes on this set I though the linkage to the bucket looked rather flimsy compaired to the rest of the model. How strong is it? It looks like if you pushed the bucket from the side you'd get quite a bit of play on it. There is a fair bit of play, however i wouldn't call it flimsy. There is probably about 1cm of give, at the bucket. I wondered if anyone remembers how many they had left? 3 black, and 1 grey for me! Quote
Lupus74 Posted September 9, 2009 Posted September 9, 2009 We are just building it now. I can't believe how many gears TLC included in this set! Quote
DarkKnight Posted September 10, 2009 Posted September 10, 2009 Great Review Blakbird. I'm Ordering mine from Amazon.co.uk on Saturday as thats when I get paid and I'll have another 8258 Crane Truck tomorrow to build the B-Model and a 8295 Telescopic Handler next Month to build. Quote
CP5670 Posted September 18, 2009 Posted September 18, 2009 Has anyone else tried to improve the steering on this model? I found it to be too stiff by default due to the use of friction pins at the articulation point instead of connector pins. There is a red bush pin on top and a normal black pin on the bottom, and replacing those made it quite a bit smoother. TLG seems to have used friction pins there to compensate for the slack in the mechanism, but I think they went too far with it. I made a couple of other minor changes to mine. I replaced the knob gear with a big crank like 8854 or 8862, and changed the gear ratio at one place to increase the torque coming from it. The model is much more fun to play with this way, despite still being manually operated. This has become my favorite Technic set since 8275. It is remarkably large and complex for an $80 model, and in terms of value for your money, it has to be the best set TLG has made in a long time. It really dwarfs 8459, which was the same price back then (and would be more like $100 now with inflation). Quote
Duq Posted September 19, 2009 Posted September 19, 2009 I've just finished building the set and I'm a bit disappointed... First a comment on the parts count. Yes, it's got just over 1000 parts and a few years ago that would have been a lot. Keep in mind though that this is almost completely studless. As a result almost a quarter of the parts, 248 out of 1061, are pins. Add the 2L and 3L axles and you're up to a third of the parts, 333 of the 1061. Compare that with 8459, its pneumatic ancestor; 77 pins out of 582 parts (13%) and 99 if you include the short axles (17%). The size of the box is ridiculous; you could easily put two sets in the box, possibly three if you squeeze. The instruction books have long been a pet hate of mine. I think there are way too many steps and the books are too big. There's no challenge. For the 1061 parts you have 122 main steps, with 206 sub steps and 241 sub-sub steps. That leaves an average of just under 2 parts per step... On to the model. Like the bulldozer the looks are spot on. As has been said before, the little details like the lights, mirrors and hand rails really add to the realistic look. I'm a bit disappointed with the placing of the red lever on the right hand side. If I was into modifying sets I'd move that lever to be in the middle of the foot board there, inside the railing. The turning circle is huge but that's probably hard to avoid. The engine with moving pistons seems to be the must-have accessory these days, and the way it's placed here, leaving room for a PF motor above it, is very good. I'd like to see it move a bit faster though. The biggest problem is controlling the bucket. It's way too slow, and you can't lower and tip at the same time. Like the 8295 it seems to be designed for a motor with the hand controls being an afterthought. The original bulldozer, the 856, had better controls. There were two, and they were wheels with a pin for easier cranking. These gears as controls just don't do it for me. This is my second set with the Lineair Actuators and I won't be buying any more. Lego, please go back to pneumatics! It's more realistic, easier to control and it looks better. Quote
CP5670 Posted September 19, 2009 Posted September 19, 2009 I agree with most of the things you said, but those are problems with modern Technic in general and are not limited to this set. I think one reason TLG moved to 100% studless construction is precisely because it inflates the piece counts so much and makes for good advertising. I usually do a couple of instruction steps simultaneously, especially when they cover two identical assemblies on opposite sides of the model. It's not that there is no "challenge" otherwise, but going through that many steps consecutively would simply be tedious, for both kids and adults. It's just as well that they don't include alternate model instructions anymore, or the manuals would become huge and hard to store. The gear knob is useless, but it can be easily switched out for a crank. That is a standard modification I have made on all recent Technic sets. Quote
Front Posted September 19, 2009 Posted September 19, 2009 (edited) Technic went studless because it's a better construction system. To claim it's because they can sell more bushings is like conspiracy theories. ******* Technic is for kids, kids need more steps to follow the instructions and build correct. I find it boring too, to add a few elements in each step, but then I'm not a kid in the lower end of the target group. Phneumatics, great but expensive. Hard to make a buisness on something that's too expensive. Edited September 19, 2009 by Front Quote
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.