Luke McAwesome Posted August 2, 2009 Posted August 2, 2009 a) Jerry is scum - hooray, we got one, and can go on with those who so eagerly supported himb) Jerry is innocent - okay, it sucked, but then we can kill Shawn and probably Sal too. I kind of like A) better... And you'll all know I was right, and hopefully, those of you such as Michelle and Zita won't feel to stupid. Kidding, kidding... Vote for him and the day will be over soon. His death will give us leads to go on and tell us which direction to go next. I have a feeling you just did a bad thing for a bad man. Aida, you believe me? You're the last person I would expect to be with me on this, but okay. Jerry, you lived as scum, and you will die as scum; please just admit it before we kill you. Tell them I was right, come on, just spit it out, it will have made your death worth it.
Millacol88 Posted August 2, 2009 Posted August 2, 2009 You would condemn an innocent man to death so you could go to sleep earlier?
JimBee Posted August 2, 2009 Posted August 2, 2009 Only to end this day. I don't want to vote off Jerry, but it will end this god-forsaken day! This day will end, one way or another. Would you rather help Shawn with his evil plot, or would you like to live? I assure you that if he is left alive, we'll all be dead.
Luke McAwesome Posted August 2, 2009 Posted August 2, 2009 This day will end, one way or another. Would you rather help Shawn with his evil plot, or would you like to live? I assure you that if he is left alive, we'll all be dead. You would know, wouldn't you?
Zapper Brick Posted August 2, 2009 Posted August 2, 2009 Robert, ending this day gives Shawn the chance to kill his opposers, I know you are innocent Rob, please, do what's logical. Don't end this day yet!
Luke McAwesome Posted August 2, 2009 Posted August 2, 2009 Robert, ending this day gives Shawn the chance to kill his opposers, I know you are innocent Rob, please, do what's logical. Don't end this day yet! Zita, you've chosen the wrong side to go on; Shawn and I are right, Jerry is part of the scum! If you keep this up, you're going to wake up tomorrow feeling pretty embarassed. In fact, the way you're sticking up for Buscemi, it makes me think you must be part of the scum yourself.
Commander Flash Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 I finally see the truth. My wife is right,... Unvote: Jerry Buschemmi/ Jim Butcher Vote:Shawn/ ImperialShadows
Sir Dillon Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 You would condemn an innocent man to death so you could go to sleep earlier? Hey, sleep is important. Donald, it may seem as though me, Artie, and Zita are simply scum supporting a soon-to-die townie to divert suspicion, that is flat-out not true. I realize that if Jerry is killed and turns out as scum, there will be somewhat of a target on my back, but I can guarantee you I am a loyal town-member. I wasn't saying you all were automatically scum, but more trying to point out we can't assume everyone isn't scum just because they supported someone innocent, which is what Jerry seemed to be saying. This all depends on Jerry's loyalties of course, but at this rate we may not know his or Shawn's for a few more days...
Millacol88 Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 Vote for Shawn, then, and find out where his loyalties lie.
Commander Flash Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 If we vote Shawn: A: He's scum, good, we got rid of a manipulator, and we can get sal as well B: He was right, Jim is next. Tomorrow will be an easy lynch most likely
Shadows Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 You know, the most deadly part of a situation like this is stupidity and it's running rampant in a few of you. The rest are simply being deceived by the sheer volume of it being spewed upon this town by a limited number of dedicated scum. Revealing that I am FBI also indicated my night action. For those of you who are unaware, the I in FBI means 'investigation' and that is what I have been doing. On the one hand you have my accusers (or the defenders of the scum boss) screaming that I should have revealed myself sooner and guaranteed my own death, then on the other hand they are trying to defend the unknown 'investigator' by saying that they can't possibly reveal themselves or risk death. You can't have it both ways, people, it reveals your bias. This is why I planned to deal with the situation privately, both for my own protection and because I knew I couldn't rely on this town to get the job done without a few obviously tainted voices trying to stop me. Those voices have been loud, apparently devoting their whole day to it. Personally, I needed the sleep after being out all night digging through trash and sneaking into the house. When forced to reveal my identity, I gave you everything I had, and the chief of police has confirmed that the scum is exactly who I say he is, yet you keep ignoring that to chase after me. You're being whipped into a frenzy by a couple of first timers who don't understand how this game ... of life ... is played. They ignore what facts we have and demand proof. I don't know what kind of proof they want since this game ... of life ... is a virtual situation and only exists in words, but I presented everything I could legally provide. I am not going to break the rules like the unknown investigator and post the exact text of any message I have received, some of us call that cheating. Oh, and my gun, a revolver, also backs up my story. Has anyone in this town been killed that way? No, that isn't the weapon of scum, it's the weapon I have been given to protect myself in the field. Standard issue and unfired, thus far. So ramble on, ignore the truth, let the scum live and continue to kill us, but know this, it is on your heads, not mine. I've taken all of the necessary risks and some unnecessary ones that you've caused, and I will certainly die for it one way or another, but I am proud to have done it and the truth of the situation will eventually be seen. I hope it isn't too late, but honestly, some of you deserve it now, just for stupidity and inexperience. Strictly enforced, this day should have ended when the vote requirement was successfully reached, which it was several pages ago, before the scum managed to sway the town's resolve away from the truth. At this point, it only remains to be seen if today will be a grand slam for the scum. Will you ignore the evidence that reveals their boss, kill the one who provided it, then sit around while they kill you tonight, giving them a nice triple victory, or will you come to your senses? So ask yourselves this: are these screaming voices offering any proof of their own? Have they done anything to help this town in the past 3 days? Have they even tried? Where is this investigator they claim to have? Everything they quoted could have come from scum, since scum knows what I found at the Buscemi house, they would have noticed the trash disturbed and the money missing in the morning. In my very first comment this morning I said this evidence was coming, once I figured out how to present it. They saw that as a threat and attacked me, but be clear, I said it first, and I told people privately about it before it was posted here, before the first accusation was made against me. Good luck, you're going to need it.
Zapper Brick Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 You know, the most deadly part of a situation like this is stupidity and it's running rampant in a few of you. The rest are simply being deceived by the sheer volume of it being spewed upon this town by a limited number of dedicated scum.Revealing that I am FBI also indicated my night action. For those of you who are unaware, the I in FBI means 'investigation' and that is what I have been doing. On the one hand you have my accusers (or the defenders of the scum boss) screaming that I should have revealed myself sooner and guaranteed my own death, then on the other hand they are trying to defend the unknown 'investigator' by saying that they can't possibly reveal themselves or risk death. You can't have it both ways, people, it reveals your bias. This is why I planned to deal with the situation privately, both for my own protection and because I knew I couldn't rely on this town to get the job done without a few obviously tainted voices trying to stop me. Those voices have been loud, apparently devoting their whole day to it. Personally, I needed the sleep after being out all night digging through trash and sneaking into the house. When forced to reveal my identity, I gave you everything I had, and the chief of police has confirmed that the scum is exactly who I say he is, yet you keep ignoring that to chase after me. You're being whipped into a frenzy by a couple of first timers who don't understand how this game ... of life ... is played. They ignore what facts we have and demand proof. I don't know what kind of proof they want since this game ... of life ... is a virtual situation and only exists in words, but I presented everything I could legally provide. I am not going to break the rules like the unknown investigator and post the exact text of any message I have received, some of us call that cheating. Oh, and my gun, a revolver, also backs up my story. Has anyone in this town been killed that way? No, that isn't the weapon of scum, it's the weapon I have been given to protect myself in the field. Standard issue and unfired, thus far. So ramble on, ignore the truth, let the scum live and continue to kill us, but know this, it is on your heads, not mine. I've taken all of the necessary risks and some unnecessary ones that you've caused, and I will certainly die for it one way or another, but I am proud to have done it and the truth of the situation will eventually be seen. I hope it isn't too late, but honestly, some of you deserve it now, just for stupidity and inexperience. Strictly enforced, this day should have ended when the vote requirement was successfully reached, which it was several pages ago, before the scum managed to sway the town's resolve away from the truth. At this point, it only remains to be seen if today will be a grand slam for the scum. Will you ignore the evidence that reveals their boss, kill the one who provided it, then sit around while they kill you tonight, giving them a nice triple victory, or will you come to your senses? So ask yourselves this: are these screaming voices offering any proof of their own? Have they done anything to help this town in the past 3 days? Have they even tried? Where is this investigator they claim to have? Everything they quoted could have come from scum, since scum knows what I found at the Buscemi house, they would have noticed the trash disturbed and the money missing in the morning. In my very first comment this morning I said this evidence was coming, once I figured out how to present it. They saw that as a threat and attacked me, but be clear, I said it first, and I told people privately about it before it was posted here, before the first accusation was made against me. Good luck, you're going to need it. Wrong, the mayor was killed with a revolver. Yes, we should come to are sences, and belive everything you say even if it's just his words! /end sarcasm. Puh-lease. how have you helped this town? If you were the investigator, why would you vote off two innocent? No, the investigator wouldn't vote that rashly. You're a lier, and you do nothing but manipulate, double-talk, and avoid the question.
Shadows Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 how have you helped this town? Listen to the presented evidence and make the right vote and you'll see. Be stupid and you won't. If you were the investigator, why would you vote off two innocent? Investigators aren't psychic, we can only check one person a night, and in my case, I was only allowed to look for evidence of the boss, which I found. If you want a better answer, ask your own investigator why they voted off a loyal citizen on day 1. Yes, that's right, I know who the 'loyal investigator' is, and I know that they voted off a loyal citizen as well. Oh, and isn't it funny that I know who the loyal investigator and loyal vigilante are, yet they continue to live. Wouldn't scum have them killed since they are important roles? Stuff that in your lying face and chew on it for a while. No, the investigator wouldn't vote that rashly. And yet the person you are trusting over me did the same thing. We all did. It's the nature of things, you only know so much and have to use your instincts. You're a lier, and you do nothing but manipulate, double-talk, and avoid the question. What question? I presented the evidence I was given and all that I could legally provide without resorting to cheating like your loyal investigator. I keep asking for proof against me and you have none. I keep asking what you have done to help and you try to throw it back at me because you have nothing to offer. I keep asking how long we are supposed to sit around and be killed by the scum, and I get attacked. It's fine, really. Sit and wait for them to kill you. Sit by the door and wear whatever you want to be buried in, they'll come for you eventually, if you aren't one of them.
Zapper Brick Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 Listen to the presented evidence and make the right vote and you'll see. Be stupid and you won't.Investigators aren't psychic, we can only check one person a night, and in my case, I was only allowed to look for evidence of the boss, which I found. If you want a better answer, ask your own investigator why they voted off a loyal citizen on day 1. Yes, that's right, I know who the 'loyal investigator' is, and I know that they voted off a loyal citizen as well. Oh, and isn't it funny that I know who the loyal investigator and loyal vigilante are, yet they continue to live. Wouldn't scum have them killed since they are important roles? Stuff that in your lying face and chew on it for a while. And yet the person you are trusting over me did the same thing. We all did. It's the nature of things, you only know so much and have to use your instincts. What question? I presented the evidence I was given and all that I could legally provide without resorting to cheating like your loyal investigator. I keep asking for proof against me and you have none. I keep asking what you have done to help and you try to throw it back at me because you have nothing to offer. I keep asking how long we are supposed to sit around and be killed by the scum, and I get attacked. It's fine, really. Sit and wait for them to kill you. Sit by the door and wear whatever you want to be buried in, they'll come for you eventually, if you aren't one of them. And how do we know you're telling the truth? Sure, maybe I haven't done anything to help the town yet, and I can't prove that you're a Scum, but you can't prove your story either, now can you? I'm gonna leave my vote and see what happens.
JimBee Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 What question? I presented the evidence I was given and all that I could legally provide without resorting to cheating like your loyal investigator. I keep asking for proof against me and you have none. I keep asking what you have done to help and you try to throw it back at me because you have nothing to offer. I keep asking how long we are supposed to sit around and be killed by the scum, and I get attacked. Proof? I'll say once again: You have been investigated, and you have been confirmed as scum. You can't deny that, even by saying that the letter was mine, or that the gun was for self-protection. And just because you're part of the FBI doesn't mean you're actually investigator. Just like if my profession was a soldier, I wouldn't necessarily be the killer. Oh, and my gun, a revolver, also backs up my story. Has anyone in this town been killed that way? No, that isn't the weapon of scum, it's the weapon I have been given to protect myself in the field. Standard issue and unfired, thus far. No one actually ever accused you of killing anybody. Just because you're scum doesn't mean you're a killer. Everyone must realize now that Shawn is manipulating you. I'll say it one more time: Shawn has been investigated and proven guilty. You can't change the facts here. It's true and Shawn can do nothing to change it, not by falsely accusing anybody or saying anything.
Shadows Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 I'll say it one more time: Shawn has been investigated and proven guilty. You can scream it, but it simply isn't true. The investigator never said I was scum, I don't think the investigator is capable of determining alignment or they would have known that I am loyal, but as it is, they didn't say one way or the other. Read the original post again, all they said is that they found those specific items, the items I took from your house, the evidence. Since I know who that investigator is, and how cowardly his methods have been today, I can say with absolute certainty that if his investigation had specifically said I was scum, he'd have said so (through the Father, since he's too weak to step forward on his own). Check your facts, you failed.
Luke McAwesome Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 Usted es sólo un montón de locos idiotas! Get your stories straight people! I need to as well, I know, I know. Look, it appears we've reached an impass, so, here's what we should do; get our votes straight and stick to one person! Facts, people, facts! I realize I haven't gotten any solid evidence, but hey, neither do any of you! Jerry could just be pulling this out of a top hat like a magician pulls out a rabbit. There is no proof that he is correct, if we could see any information from this so-called "investigator" then perhaps it could lead us to the truth, you're still going to need more then just claims to get me to believe Shawn is scum.
WhiteFang Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 *Emerging out of the crowd, once more* Everyone, there is a tremendous flow of information coming from all possible sources and I have to look at the others' comments. We must view things in a calm manner, and take careful consideration of our words as well. Right now, there is a split of votes at this manner, but to me, whoever we are voting for, Jerry or Shawn, or whoever, we must convict one today. Taking into account Shawn's theory of the Federal Agent, there is truth to it, and its hard to fabricate such scenario, but I am absolute sure that there could have something else which we have overlooked too. Revealing the earlier intel from the "other investigator" whom have spoke to me, have reveal such info in his house, and I believe that this is a fact, but HOW do we interprete the content is really up to us... From my experience, there is a scenario of a possible double agent emerging, and as far as I am concern, my duty is to identify those possible suspects. I trust this investigator whom present this findings to me, and Shawn have another investigator to back him up, which could be himself or others. I will not force the person to step up, as it will endanger this person life and I am at risk of being taken out tonight by the mafia as well. Now, here is the interesting part. I believe for sure, Jerry is indeed the mafia boss, because of his FBI ability, BUT no one knows for sure what is his real objective. Quoting from the past experiences in the other alternate dimensions, there are events where one of the scum or alternate characters is supposed to get rid of the mafia boss, in order to achieve their own objective, and none of us knows if Shawn is indeed this alternate person, which I have propose the "Meat Shield" theory. So even Jerry is dead tonight and declare as a scum, I still suspect Shawn and keep a close watch on him because the findings which was presented to me is impossible to fabricate. Next part, will be Shawn getting himself convict tonight instead with a sudden change of cards. If Shawn is indeed a scumbag, this will align completelty with what the intel have provided to me, acting for the investigator's spokesperson and this person's words is true and complete, but if this person is fabricating stories and make use of my kindness by maniuplate me, I will be the very first to convict this person and reveal the true identity whom feed me with this. From now till the next conviction, I will leave to this mysterious person to decide for him or herself... To continue, I need to inform one VERY important highlighting point which I concluded, if I am dead I fear I have no chance to reveal this... Among us, there is someone whom is a renegade, and that someone doesn't care who is the scum or who is the citizen. This mysterious person care for him or herself, and its possible that you guys observe the weapons used, because I strongly believed the person whom wield the Tommy Gun or the Axe is the renegade killer... I really don't know whom is this person, but I begged that you are to be careful tonight..
JimBee Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 You can scream it, but it simply isn't true. The investigator never said I was scum, I don't think the investigator is capable of determining alignment or they would have known that I am loyal, but as it is, they didn't say one way or the other. Read the original post again, all they said is that they found those specific items, the items I took from your house, the evidence.Since I know who that investigator is, and how cowardly his methods have been today, I can say with absolute certainty that if his investigation had specifically said I was scum, he'd have said so (through the Father, since he's too weak to step forward on his own). Check your facts, you failed. Wait, I thought you just said that the revolver and money was yours? Ad even if it was mine, what's it doing at your house? Anyone could take their own money, gun, and letter and say that it's someone else's. I know you'd be smart enough to leave it at my house and then tell the real investigator to find the proof, if that was the case. Why do you continue to change the story? To save yourself? I can only hope that some of us have the logic to realize that changing the story means you're a liar. Jerry could just be pulling this out of a top hat like a magician pulls out a rabbit. There is no proof that he is correct, if we could see any information from this so-called "investigator" then perhaps it could lead us to the truth, you're still going to need more then just claims to get me to believe Shawn is scum. Again, you contradicted yourself and Shawn. This is exactly what Shawn has been doing: having no proof that he is correct, and he's going to need more then just claims to prove that I am scum.
Luke McAwesome Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 Father Walters is right. Adding to his theory, I must say we're acting very immature, including myself very highly. Why don't we sort this out in a much calmer manner? So, with Shawn and Jerry being our suspects, I still think we should vote off Jerry today, and you can do what you want tomorrow; I won't interfer with any ideas tomorrow, but my vote still is going to Jerry. It's been proven as of now by Father Walters that he is the mafia boss, he's the one we need to vote, he commands all of his little pawns to do what he wishes, and that is mainly killing us townies. Don't you see? All of you? He's the one behind all this! It's now or never people! We can't let this chance slip away!
WhiteFang Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 Could any of the kind citizens help Father, to examine at the current voting stands? Shawn, I choose not to believe all which or what was presented to me, and indeed this person whom have feed me this info together said that you are a scum, but I believe for a fact, that there is some sort of maninuplation between all involved parties.... It's been proven as of now by Father Walters that he is the mafia boss, he's the one we need to vote, he commands all of his little pawns to do what he wishes, and that is mainly killing us townies. Let me tell you, Sai... Getting the mafia boss convicted, doesn't change that fact that the scum is in control. They could easily appoint another boss to do the commanding...
Shadows Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 I would appreciate if it the Father would be honest enough to admit that the so-called investigator was unable to say that I am or am not scum. I know they would have said I was loyal if they had the ability to determine that, so therefore they didn't say either, did they? Wait, I thought you just said that the revolver and money was yours? I've said this about 5 times, so this will be the last. The letter was sent to you by someone you blackmailed into turning. The revolver is my federally issued weapon. The money is from a bank heist you scum did, based on the serial numbers of the bills. You can keep trying to lie your way out, but eventually people will see through it. Anyone could take their own money, gun, and letter and say that it's someone else's. I know you'd be smart enough to leave it at my house and then tell the real investigator to find the proof, if that was the case. It's called collecting evidence. It's what we do to catch scum. If we were like you, I could have just put a bullet in your head last night and been done with the problem, but we believe in the law. and he's going to need more then just claims to prove that I am scum. You are scum, and for some reason, people who I know are loyal are letting you live out the day. Maybe you're blackmailing a lot more people than I have discovered. Been meeting a lot of people at the Aventine lately?
WhiteFang Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 I would appreciate if it the Father would be honest enough to admit that the so-called investigator was unable to say that I am or am not scum. I know they would have said I was loyal if they had the ability to determine that, so therefore they didn't say either, did they? The thing is, this person did mention it, but I choose not to believe it initally... I choose to believe your story, because the FBI story is hard to fabricate, but it doesn't co-incide with the investigtor's findings UNLESS this person is feeding me with the wrong info, I will have the person hang for his or her misguided faith.... Now, this gives me another option to explore of the "Double Agent" theory in my earlier post of possible scenarios... Now, the thing is how much I trust this investigator's findings, is not important anymore, because tonight, there will be bloodshed... Whatever happened after tonight, I beg the citizens to explore the untapped findings with the rest whom you trust...
JimBee Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 Could any of the kind citizens help Father, to examine at the current voting stands? Shawn, I choose not to believe all which or what was presented to me, and indeed this person whom have feed me this info together said that you are a scum, but I believe for a fact, that there is some sort of maninuplation between all involved parties.... There you go. The investigator is to be trusted, and you should stick with his story. Like Shawn said, the investigator is being a coward, and he doesn't know what to believe. Hell, if it was an investigation, why would he/ she take the side of the person they just found guilty? I would like to ask this person to step up and explain themselves. I would appreciate if it the Father would be honest enough to admit that the so-called investigator was unable to say that I am or am not scum. I know they would have said I was loyal if they had the ability to determine that, so therefore they didn't say either, did they? That's the problem. He/ she doesn't even know whether to trust the game's... of life own host or your sneaky, sneaky lies. I've said this about 5 times, so this will be the last. The letter was sent to you by someone you blackmailed into turning. The revolver is my federally issued weapon. The money is from a bank heist you scum did, based on the serial numbers of the bills. You have changed the story yet again. You never said that I "blackmailed" anyone, nor did you say anything about the serial numbers on the bills. It's called collecting evidence. It's what we do to catch scum. If we were like you, I could have just put a bullet in your head last night and been done with the problem, but we believe in the law. No, it's called lying. If you were really "collecting evidence" You are scum, and for some reason, people who I know are loyal are letting you live out the day. Maybe you're blackmailing a lot more people than I have discovered. Been meeting a lot of people at the Aventine lately? Blackmailing? Now this is getting ridiculous. You can ask any one of the good people who defended me that they are doing this out of their own kind hearts and free will. And where would blackmailing get me, even if I was scum? If I killed them, then I would have nobody to defend me.
Luke McAwesome Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 Blackmailing? Now this is getting ridiculous. You can ask any one of the good people who defended me that they are doing this out of their own kind hearts and free will. And where would blackmailing get me, even if I was scum? If I killed them, then I would have nobody to defend me. You and I both know you're guilty, Jerry! Just admit it! The day will end soon! And we'll have one less mafia mobster to worry about... Shawn may have a lot of theories, but one has to be the right story, wouldn't you agree, Mr. Buscemi?
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