jala12 Posted October 10, 2009 Posted October 10, 2009 Does Greg mean he just wants to write about cybernetic dinosaurs in general or do you mean he wants to write about them ON Bota Magna?
~Wrack'n'Ruin~ Posted October 10, 2009 Posted October 10, 2009 Proves...... what?-Omi Proves that we don't know.
tao07 Posted October 10, 2009 Posted October 10, 2009 Tyranide, do you have any new about the catalog?
Tyranide Posted October 11, 2009 Posted October 11, 2009 Hmm, well I think it's new to me though. About the death match, obviously it wouldn't be a death match as such, but it would make sense that Mata Nui would use the robot to give the Makuta a decent enough beating, so as to distract and weaken him from preventing the turmoil going on inside him caused by the Stars and the summer sets, which would ultimately defeat the Makuta. But I'm hoping that Mata Nui will do a little more than slap the Makuta, to make it cool enough to be animated by Ghost.Most of the BM inhabitants currently live under the shelter of the GS, so they'll probably go into it when Mata Nui uses it. But if they don't, it might be kind of neat to have a Giant Robot Disable Match in space, or crash landing on AM and other nearby planets. Oh frag. My hands are ITCHING right now to draw something like it. After I finish my current drawing of Haunt, of course... which will be in, like, 10 minutes. Tyranide, do you have any new about the catalog? Not right now, sadly. With all these delays I can only hope to accomplish something... anything.
Cap'n Kopaka Posted October 11, 2009 Posted October 11, 2009 Hold on a second. This isn't really relavant to the current discussion but I'll mention it anyways. A lot of people think Tahu Nuva is going to "regress" to become his Stars form--who says his Adaptive Armor didn't just make him look more like his original form? It's a possibility =P ~cap'n
ShaddowCroc Posted October 11, 2009 Posted October 11, 2009 Hold on a second.This isn't really relavant to the current discussion but I'll mention it anyways. A lot of people think Tahu Nuva is going to "regress" to become his Stars form--who says his Adaptive Armor didn't just make him look more like his original form? It's a possibility =P ~cap'n Very true. Perhaps being outside of Mata Nui has that effect on adaptive armor. Since the last time Tahu was a toa Mata, he was only outside of Mata Nui . . .
Phantoka Kopaka Nuva Posted October 11, 2009 Posted October 11, 2009 Very true. Perhaps being outside of Mata Nui has that effect on adaptive armor. Since the last time Tahu was a toa Mata, he was only outside of Mata Nui . . . You guys do realize that it's gonna confuse a lot of kids, right? I mean, if the AA did turn him into his Mata form, then there would be another Kanohi confusion. Tahu Stars wears a normal Hau, and currently he wears a Hau Nuva. If his Hau Nuva adapts into a normal Hau, it's gonna confuse a lot of people.
Mesonak Posted October 11, 2009 Posted October 11, 2009 Guys. The original Tahu was one of the first emblems for Bionicle. The Stars, even if they are canon, are highlighting iconic sets from previous years. I highly doubt people remember Tahu Nuva as well as they do the original Tahu. And The Hau Mata was used in so many promotional things... They'll find some storyline way to make it possible, I'm sure, but those are my my thoughts.
Phantoka Kopaka Nuva Posted October 11, 2009 Posted October 11, 2009 Guys.The original Tahu was one of the first emblems for Bionicle. The Stars, even if they are canon, are highlighting iconic sets from previous years. I highly doubt people remember Tahu Nuva as well as they do the original Tahu. And The Hau Mata was used in so many promotional things... They'll find some storyline way to make it possible, I'm sure, but those are my my thoughts. Right now, I find "regressing" the only possible reason for Tahu Stars to be canon.
Cap'n Kopaka Posted October 11, 2009 Posted October 11, 2009 If you ask me, his adaptive Hau looked more like the old one than the Nuva one \_(O.o)_/ ~cap'n
Brickthing Posted October 11, 2009 Posted October 11, 2009 It's a possibility, but Adaptive Armour looks like Nuva armour when in a normal environment, and Tahu Nuva is no longer Tahu, and does not have a Hau or a Firesword. The Adaptive Armour can change the appearance of him to suit an environment, but it would be stretching it to say that looking like his Mata form would have any advantage to suit an environment. Which is a shame, because I'd prefer that reason to the regressing reason, because the Ignika is the only thing in the storyline currently capable of doing that, and I doubt Mata Nui would have a reason to devolve Tahu.
Mesonak Posted October 11, 2009 Posted October 11, 2009 (edited) How come Gresh has silver weapons? How come Vezok isn't a snake any more? How come the Skrall is green? How come Takanuva is silver and white? All of these characters have some changes that will probably be explained by some complex ignika transformation/regression/something else. So yeah, I think Tahu will "regress." Adaptive armor is a good possiblity, but it transforms them into forms that will best suit their enviroment. I can't see how Tahu's new form will do him any better on Bara Magna than his old form would have. But what of the other characters' transformations that we seem to be neglecting? @Cap'n Kopaka: I thought so too. o_o -Mesonak Edited October 11, 2009 by Mesonak
the last chronicler Posted October 11, 2009 Posted October 11, 2009 It's a possibility, but Adaptive Armour looks like Nuva armour when in a normal environment, and Tahu Nuva is no longer Tahu, and does not have a Hau or a Firesword. The Adaptive Armour can change the appearance of him to suit an environment, but it would be stretching it to say that looking like his Mata form would have any advantage to suit an environment.Which is a shame, because I'd prefer that reason to the regressing reason, because the Ignika is the only thing in the storyline currently capable of doing that, and I doubt Mata Nui would have a reason to devolve Tahu. Wouldn't the EP entity possibly have the ability to change tahu back? I mean, if EP can cause someone to change maybe it can also reverse said change. Also throughout the MU, there have been many situations where an object has been conected with a lifeform, such as the Nuva and their symbols, Makuta's protocage and the protoshard, etc. Maybe if Tahu leaves the MU for BM, he looses his connection with EP, the cube, or maybe his symbol..
ShaddowCroc Posted October 11, 2009 Posted October 11, 2009 It's a possibility, but Adaptive Armour looks like Nuva armour when in a normal environment, and Tahu Nuva is no longer Tahu, and does not have a Hau or a Firesword. The Adaptive Armour can change the appearance of him to suit an environment, but it would be stretching it to say that looking like his Mata form would have any advantage to suit an environment. Well, if the Great Beings created the Matoran and Mata Nui on Spherus Magna, then they would have also created Kanohi on Spherus Magna. Not only that, but Artakha created the Toa Mata while still technically on Spherus Magna. So that means that the only form the adaptive armor could take is that of the only time the Toa Mata were on Bara Magna. (Because there's no other biomechanical life-forms for it to use as a template.)
Mesonak Posted October 11, 2009 Posted October 11, 2009 Well, if the Great Beings created the Matoran and Mata Nui on Spherus Magna, then they would have also created Kanohi on Spherus Magna. Not only that, but Artakha created the Toa Mata while still technically on Spherus Magna. So that means that the only form the adaptive armor could take is that of the only time the Toa Mata were on Bara Magna. (Because there's no other biomechanical life-forms for it to use as a template.) That...actually is a very good idea. -Mesonak
tao07 Posted October 11, 2009 Posted October 11, 2009 Or maybe it's an alternate Tahu and a Shadow Takanuva =P
Mesonak Posted October 11, 2009 Posted October 11, 2009 Or maybe it's an alternate Tahu and a Shadow Takanuva =P I don't think silver and white accurately represents shadow. o_o Lol. -Mesonak
ShaddowCroc Posted October 11, 2009 Posted October 11, 2009 *coughVezon'sCurrentAlternateUniversePlzcough* And Vezon's new color could be due to his encounter with the Energized Protodermis. Greg never said what he looked like at this point . . .
The Dor Posted October 11, 2009 Posted October 11, 2009 *coughVezon'sCurrentAlternateUniversePlzcough*And Vezon's new color could be due to his encounter with the Energized Protodermis. Greg never said what he looked like at this point . . . It's not Vezon. It's Vezok. :) who is currently a snake
ShaddowCroc Posted October 11, 2009 Posted October 11, 2009 It's not Vezon. It's Vezok. :) who is currently a snake We have no clue who it actually is. The set is just called "Piraka". Nothing more, nothing. And it's never implied to be Vezok. (Aside from the weapon. But maybe Vezon just randomly picked it up in his alternate universe. [Maybe even stole it from alternate Vezok after mudering him. :D])
The Dor Posted October 11, 2009 Posted October 11, 2009 We have no clue who it actually is. The set is just called "Piraka". Nothing more, nothing. And it's never implied to be Vezok.(Aside from the weapon. But maybe Vezon just randomly picked it up in his alternate universe. [Maybe even stole it from alternate Vezok after mudering him. :D]) Ah I should have said the most likely candidate was Vezok. It's possible Vezon gets refused, but I don't think that's likely.
The Dor Posted October 11, 2009 Posted October 11, 2009 Ok just finished the book. Throughout the book, there are excerpts from "Mata Nui's Diary" which retell the events though MN's eyes. Lots of neat things there, he compares Ackar to Onua in one of them which made me squeal like a fangirl for a second, and it ends the book with one. This is a MAJOR spoiler into next year. In it he journeys with Kiina, Gresh, and Tarduk back to the Valley of the Maze (Tarduk and co do make it there in RoTGB, but get teleported back), where they find an immense power source which refuses the robot, and powers it. Mata Nui then transports his soul from the mask into the robot, and talks about how Teridax will probably be coming to destroy him. I'll try to get some of the trivia and such up tomorrow probably :)
Mesonak Posted October 11, 2009 Posted October 11, 2009 (edited) Whatever happened to "Proofpics"? Tyranide said they were pics of the inside of a Lego office. Also, you guys do have a point. Just because he has Vezok's weapon and is blue doesn't neccesarily mean it's Vezok...We'll see. Is it possble that all te Piraka get fused into one? I doubt it, but just a thought. @The Dor: O_o That's...Very nicely done, actually. I see what the movie did...They made it seem like next year would be about journeying into the Valley of the Maze, but it's really just the ending of this year...Well played Lego. I like that. -Mesonak Edited October 11, 2009 by Mesonak
Brickthing Posted October 11, 2009 Posted October 11, 2009 @The Dor: O_o That's...Very nicely done, actually. I see what the movie did...They made it seem like next year would be about journeying into the Valley of the Maze, but it's really just the ending of this year...Well played Lego. I like that. I'm guessing that 2010 was originally meant to be Mata Nui's journey to get this power source, but they ended the movie ambiguously as a safety feature so that Mata Nui's journey didn't have to be the 2010 plot and movie if they condensed their plot plans like they have. It's a pity that such an epic journey will be skipped in the most part, although I suspect that the Graphic Novel that's set to include the information about the Red Star will be about the journey. At least we now know what the last 2009 comic will be about. About the Piraka, not only does he have Vezok's weapon, but he is blue and has the same face. If it's supposed to be representing a past set, there isn't anyone else that Piraka could be. I suspect he isn't named as Vezok because all the (remaining) Piraka will feature in the plot, but he's just the lucky one to get a set representation.
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