Shadows Posted August 16, 2009 Posted August 16, 2009 you tried to convert me to scum but I was able to maintain the loyalty to my town. I see. So because Jerry Buscemi, the mob boss who I got killed, tried to turn you, I'm to blame. Ok, whatever, you're not confused or anything.
Luke McAwesome Posted August 16, 2009 Posted August 16, 2009 Now I understand, at least. Grief obviously clouds your judgment, so I will try not to hold that against you. Donald was a good man who you lost too soon. You know in your heart that what you are doing can't bring him back, but you think, for some foolish reason, that opposing me will get you killed and that would be an easy way to join him. The problem with that confused logic is that people who oppose me don't die any quicker or slower than anyone else, the scum have no reason to care about us arguing. If anything, they probably like it because it keeps the town in turmoil. They're too afraid to try to kill me directly anyway, so by leaving my detractors alive, they make us argue while killing us behind our backs. It's sad that we're playing right into their hands and can't seem to do anything about it. It's been all this finger pointing without evidence and infighting that has left us in such a weakened position. I hope your pain is eased soon, but I certainly don't want to see you die for that to happen. Oh, you went from toaster salesman to therapist in a matter of days?
Hinckley Posted August 16, 2009 Posted August 16, 2009 After taking some time (a couple hours or so) to mourn my wife and come to terms with her strange psychosis, and some additional time to check out the gay bars in this town, I've done some catching up on today's events. Please pardon my late arrival to the discussion. Sal / Striker, innocent Really? Damn it, I know nothing... Quinn - you look to be innocent, but I have no proof at this point.Alice - you also look to be innocent, but again, no proof. Henry, I feel you are innocent also, I just wish I had some proof on you guys. These three need support from any of our loyal TOWN members, so if anyone can back them up, that would be great, for them and for us. Yes please, some support would be nice. However, since nothing has really happened to me outside of my wife being a serial hatchet-killer-maniac, it's hard to prove or disprove anything. I implore you to have your investigator investigate me. I tryed to save Jerry, my good sir, becuase I suscpected that Jerry was indeed Scum, and that Shawn ws playing his 'meat-shield" tactic and that if we did vote off Jerry, the fickle public would hail him as a hero. Obviously you have your facts all wrong. Just because they support Shawn, means they're loyal? And what do I have to do, Paint "I defended Jerry because of the meat-shield" on my head? Shut your Megablocks. *huh* Could someone re-visit the meat-shield theory for me? It sounds a little odd yet it keeps being referred to. What's it mean? Chief Stevens, I have conversed with you privately and told you that I think you are far too naive. I have no solid evidence that you are wrong or right but I can say that I am fairly certain you are determining some Scum to be loyal because you enjoy their company. We are going to give this town to scum if we don't stop this. While I hate to do this, I will because I think it is the right thing to do. I remember the Father voting for Shawn and so I'm going to set myself up to die here. Vote: Shawn/ImperialShadows I have trusted you all this time and here you present two surprises. 1. You tell us that Chief Stevens is our investigator and he is naive. That would explain why all the people he trusts and knows their alliance for sure are Townies. At least he's not paranoid *OOC evil eye to Tiny Pies for Witch Hunt, there I referenced it-deal with it. * ... Anyway, this is the first game I've ever played where I trust Shawn. But, I've learned in the past, Aida, to trust you more. What evidence do you have against Shawn? Gosh, colour me shocked. You're contradicting everything you've said above, and now you're playing the martyr, putting your personal safety at risk to place a vote against that scourge that there is no evidence against. Only one problem with your act... how risky can it be to oppose me when the Father that you site as an example is still alive after all these days? Vote: Zita / Zapper Brick Um, you're a little defensive over one vote to kill you. You'd think it had come from your wife or something. I know you have a tendency to be long-winded and want to control all of the circumstances of these games ... of life , but settle down. From what I've seen, I could get behind a vote for Zita. I am not clouded. I want you dead with your scum head on a platter. You are the reason that my fellow townies are being murdered and you tried to convert me to scum but I was able to maintain the loyalty to my town. I'd rather die than turn to scum. what what what? That's a very clear accusation and no good for any of us if it's true. Do you have any evidence? I see. So because Jerry Buscemi, the mob boss who I got killed, tried to turn you, I'm to blame. Ok, whatever, you're not confused or anything. What the hell are you two talking about? Aida, what are the circumstances of this attempted conversion? Shawn, did you know that Jerry Buscemi was a transistor converter? The smartest thing to do, I believe-at this point-is to Vote: Zita/Zapper Brick. She's been scrambling and changing her story and posting in all caps, so even if she's a townie, at least we won't have a socially unacceptable grammatical faux pas like that. But, something is up between Shawn and Aida and I hope it's not some sort of domestic quarrel. Aida, Shawn's a sheister to be sure, so please provide some evidence. I think it's easy to suspect him because of the past, but I really trust him this time. I've been busy with work so I haven't sent many Potatoes out for this game ... of life. Maybe I should kick you a pigeon or something...
Quarryman Posted August 16, 2009 Posted August 16, 2009 *huh* Could someone re-visit the meat-shield theory for me? It sounds a little odd yet it keeps being referred to. What's it mean? Basicly the "meat-shield theory" goes that Shawn is scummy as few and sacrificed Jerry to look better himself (something others have done in situations similar to ours), thereby using Jerry as a meat-shield. Anyway, this is a tricky situation for us, on one hand we have a smooth-talking toaster salesman which I instinctively don't want to trust, and on the other a rambling mad woman that might be an innocent townie that just happens to be very stupid, or scum. At the moment I think I'll go with getting rid of another rambling mad person; Vote: Zita / Zapper Brick.
Zapper Brick Posted August 16, 2009 Posted August 16, 2009 Basicly the "meat-shield theory" goes that Shawn is scummy as few and sacrificed Jerry to look better himself (something others have done in situations similar to ours), thereby using Jerry as a meat-shield. Anyway, this is a tricky situation for us, on one hand we have a smooth-talking toaster salesman which I instinctively don't want to trust, and on the other a rambling mad woman that might be an innocent townie that just happens to be very stupid, or scum. At the moment I think I'll go with getting rid of another rambling mad person; Vote: Zita / Zapper Brick. Needless to say, YOU madly ramble, too. Instantly, whenever Shawn says ANYTHING, you say "I'll buy that" in 2 seconds, without even considering other possiblity. Oh yes, I've consider that Shawn could be telling the truth, I'm going to look at that theroy more. Thanks you Joey, that is indeed the description of the meat-sheild. Oh? You think I'm Scum, eh? Notice if I die, all Shawn-Opposers are dead. Think about it. It's interesting, don't you thinK?
Shadows Posted August 16, 2009 Posted August 16, 2009 Notice if I die, all Shawn-Opposers are dead. Think about it. It's interesting, don't you thinK? You cite that meat shield nonsense and then fail to recognise that the Father who suggested it is still around, thus contradicting your whole silly comment. Believe me, if I was scum and had the power to make people go away, I would have led him to a Grim death long ago, but I'm not and I don't.
Zapper Brick Posted August 16, 2009 Posted August 16, 2009 You cite that meat shield nonsense and then fail to recognise that the Father who suggested it is still around, thus contradicting your whole silly comment. Believe me, if I was scum and had the power to make people go away, I would have led him to a Grim death long ago, but I'm not and I don't. Nope, the Father's your new thug Shawn, I figured that out about a Day ago. Really, he's been going along with what you're saying, while remaining on the Anti-Shawn group. Tricky, really. Why is a meat-sheild nonsence? It makes more sence than your Double-Talk does. Meat-Sheild tactics have been used before, doofus, I seem to remeber a name "Ian" or "Ivan" or something like that.
WhiteFang Posted August 16, 2009 Posted August 16, 2009 I was away to arrange the funeral of our dear citizen, Robert.... There are many quotes which I am trying to catch up, but I will explained this quote below, myself... Let me give all a reminder, what's left is the night killer, that belongs to the mafia... I strongly believed most of the distinct night actions have been eliminated one way or another.... There could be a loyal blocker somewhere among the townies, which have not been killed. Apart from that, there could be a peeping citizen somewhere, but other than that, the only threat left, is the night killer of the scum wielding the machine gun... Let me share this info with the townies, there is no bodyguard anymore. Officer Vincent Forman is the town bodyguard and was voted off in Day 1 because of his reckless behaviour... So, all of the killings were easily carried out in the night by the scum... TOWNIESChief Stevens / Stash2sixx, innocent Christopher / Keetong, innocent Shawn / ImperialShadows, innocent Sal / Striker, innocent This sounds more like a scum list to me... As far as I strongly believed, Atrie is the only known investigator, and if there is any other investigator, I will said that is a scum investigator's findings.... Atrie is a full time investigator that is working for the town, and carried out his duties with pride, searching for evidence in the night. Unfortunately, there is no other ways to resolve it... Father Walters - Not sure which way to go with you, but as a priest, you are a yappy basturd! You told Michelle I was an investigator, because she came back and asked why I had told you one thing, and then told her another. No one ever suspects the priest, and you do kinda look like Mr. Big, who is SCUM. Calling me yappy isn't going to resolve this? My town alignment was investigated by Atrie in Night 1, and both of us have been working together, acting as his spokesperson, and unfortunately, he can't investigate any further, and was killed in Night 3. However, in Night 2, I emphasis again, her findings concludes Shawn as a scum, with definite truth... Although I am on anti-Shawn movement group, but there is a dangerous threat, and I don't know whom should I trust most, since my aide has been brutally killed, and I don't have any abilities unlike others whom have the capabilities of sharing the findings. All of you are trusting Shawn too much, but as long you guys wanted to give him chance again and again... For sure, he is a scum, based on Atrie, and I am carrying out his last wish... Apart from that, Chief Steven, I always thought you are loyal... And "NO", I am not the one whom love to bitch about others' identities and capabilities, and I don't gossip with Michelle. As far as I am concerned, all conversations between me and the rest, are remain confidential in terms of their abilities. So, I am not the one whom said that....
Shadows Posted August 16, 2009 Posted August 16, 2009 Nope, the Father's your new thug Shawn, I figured that out about a Day ago. Really, he's been going along with what you're saying, while remaining on the Anti-Shawn group. Really? I'll be interested in his response to that crazy theory. I seem to remeber a name "Ian" or "Ivan" or something like that. Metagaming is a dire mistake in these situations. Before rambling, try learning. As for your specific charge, you don't have a clue what you're talking about. From my knowledge of history, I can tell you that Ivan was loyal from beginning to end and rid his town of the mob. Ian actually did the same, though admittedly the scum was considered loyal in that instance. Neither situation employed anything even vaguely resembling what you have so poorly attempted to describe, any more than the great Priest Alexander who helped rid his town of the spectre of witchcraft tried anything of that sort. See how that works? You incorrectly refer to one thing you aren't even knowledgeable about, and I can rattle off cases where you're wrong. Does that prove anything for either of us? No. Thus, metagaming As far as I am concerned, all conversations between me and the rest, are remain confidential in terms of their abilities. So, I am not the one whom said that.... You've said a lot of things to a lot of people, Father. Remember, God is watching you, so be careful in your claims. I know for a fact that you're lying now.
WhiteFang Posted August 16, 2009 Posted August 16, 2009 You've said a lot of things to a lot of people, Father. Remember, God is watching you, so be careful in your claims. I know for a fact that you're lying now. There is a clear division of how humans react and find their own association, and its human institution to mingle and adapt accordingly in different situations. I must warn you, Shawn. I am not afraid to die, for I know this town has been infested with more scums than townies... IN this case, even if I must burn to hell, it's the loyal townies that suffer. I only believe what is relayed to me, and I will stick by it...
Hinckley Posted August 16, 2009 Posted August 16, 2009 But, why is it a meat shield? I'm going to look at that theroy more. Who's Theroy? This sounds more like a scum list to me... As far as I strongly believed, Atrie is the only known investigator, and if there is any other investigator, I will said that is a scum investigator's findings.... Atrie is a full time investigator that is working for the town, and carried out his duties with pride, searching for evidence in the night. Unfortunately, there is no other ways to resolve it... That's a very interesting theory that would make a lot of sense especially with what Aida is accusing as well. But, why would the scum need an investigator? Traditionally, scum knows scum, with the exception of Baritones 2...whatever that means. There's a very clear line drawn in the sand here and I wonder which side is the actual scum...
Quarryman Posted August 16, 2009 Posted August 16, 2009 But, why is it a meat shield? It's a meat shield because it's believed he used a piece of meat (that is, another person) to shield himself from harm. That's a very interesting theory that would make a lot of sense especially with what Aida is accusing as well. But, why would the scum need an investigator? Traditionally, scum knows scum, with the exception of Baritones 2...whatever that means. There's a very clear line drawn in the sand here and I wonder which side is the actual scum... The only reason I can see for the scum to need an investigator would be to dig up who among us loyals are able to do things at night.
Hinckley Posted August 16, 2009 Posted August 16, 2009 The only reason I can see for the scum to need an investigator would be to dig up who among us loyals are able to do things at night. Good point. So what do we do? You don't seem to be on either side of this line either, what does your instinct tell you?
Luke McAwesome Posted August 16, 2009 Posted August 16, 2009 Good point. So what do we do? You don't seem to be on either side of this line either, what does your instinct tell you? Well, I know one thing, my instinct is to finally realize that us townies are probably gonna lose this game... of life. Henry, I think you may get to see you're phsycopathic wife sooner than I expected... *prays*
Hinckley Posted August 16, 2009 Posted August 16, 2009 Well, I know one thing, my instinct is to finally realize that us townies are probably gonna lose this game... of life. Henry, I think you may get to see you're phsycopathic wife sooner than I expected... *prays* Don't be so over dramatic. We can beat you them. The more days pass, the more the major players have been drawn out into the open. Now it's just up to us to decide which side to trust here...
WhiteFang Posted August 17, 2009 Posted August 17, 2009 Who's Theroy? Actually, that theory, "Meat Shield" was coined by me, to force Shawn to reveal his FBI agent story, aiming Jerry to be the mafia boss, and get him convicted but he may actually used him as a cover, to look innocent among us... That was the first attempt of using Atrie's information/findings to act against Shawn... That's a very interesting theory that would make a lot of sense especially with what Aida is accusing as well. But, why would the scum need an investigator? Traditionally, scum knows scum, with the exception of Baritones 2...whatever that means. There's a very clear line drawn in the sand here and I wonder which side is the actual scum... The only reason I can see for the scum to need an investigator would be to dig up who among us loyals are able to do things at night. Scum investigator is like someone, whom investigate or dig out townies of whom have night actions.... so they are able to plan and target them to death...
Shadows Posted August 17, 2009 Posted August 17, 2009 Actually, that theory, "Meat Shield" was coined by me, to force Shawn to reveal his FBI agent story, aiming Jerry to be the mafia boss, and get him convicted but he may actually used him as a cover, to look innocent among us... That was the first attempt of using Atrie's information/findings to act against Shawn... The problem with your theory is that I had told several people including the Chief, Quinn, Robert, Henry and Aida that I had discovered that Jerry was the boss BEFORE your theory was ever presented and before Artie and his paranoid delusions. They can check their notes (potato messages and IRC log) to confirm it. I even mentioned that I had learned something at the beginning of that day, not expecting to be attacked like I was, and continue to be. I had hoped to simply have Robert deal with the problem quietly, but your pandering to a paranoid investigator forced me to reveal my identity and knowledge, which was not something I wanted to do. In return, you've caused a lot of disruption and the scum keep gaining for it. That is on you, Father.
Zapper Brick Posted August 17, 2009 Posted August 17, 2009 Metagaming is a dire mistake in As for your specific charge, you don't have a clue what you're talking about. From my knowledge of history, I can tell you that Ivan was loyal from beginning to end and rid his town of the mob. Ian actually did the same, though admittedly the scum was considered loyal in that instance. Neither situation employed anything even vaguely resembling what you have so poorly attempted to describe, any more than the great Priest Alexander who helped rid his town of the spectre of witchcraft tried anything of that sort. See how that works? You incorrectly refer to one thing you aren't even knowledgeable about, and I can rattle off cases where you're wrong. Does that prove anything for either of us? No. Thus, metagaming Sure, go ahead and ignore the exact point, and rambling on Metagaming while complete ignoring your constant double-talk. Ok, so maybe the Father isn't you thug, but I've figured out that he, insted, is your answer to the "All Shawn-Opposers are dead" thing. Notice that all Shawn-Opposers who have died were loyal, and the only Shawn Sympithizer that died, has been Scum. Interesting, huh? Also, why is Artie considered Paranoid? He was the one who accused Shawn in the first place, so saying that he's paranoid makes no sence. I've never heard of paranioa over accusing someone else.
Alice Posted August 18, 2009 Posted August 18, 2009 Sure, go ahead and ignore the exact point, and rambling on Metagaming while complete ignoring your constant double-talk. Ok, so maybe the Father isn't you thug, but I've figured out that he, insted, is your answer to the "All Shawn-Opposers are dead" thing. Notice that all Shawn-Opposers who have died were loyal, and the only Shawn Sympithizer that died, has been Scum. Interesting, huh? Also, why is Artie considered Paranoid? He was the one who accused Shawn in the first place, so saying that he's paranoid makes no sence. I've never heard of paranioa over accusing someone else. By very definition, a paranoid investigator would find everyone guilty that he/she investigates. I believe that Artie was not paranoid and got back the truth about Shawn. He was just too afraid to tell us so he went through the father, making Artie the target that day. I propose that instead Stevens is naive and believes everyone is loyal. While Artie was a drunk, he might have been the only one of us who had the truth. Again, I'm sticking with my vote. Zita, you should stop being so defensive my dear. You are making yourself look guilty. I don't understand why the townies are doing that.. I realize that by voting without any just reason, I have also set myself up.
WhiteFang Posted August 18, 2009 Posted August 18, 2009 I am still sticking to my arguement... Vote Shawn/ImperialShadows
MagPiesRUs Posted August 18, 2009 Author Posted August 18, 2009 (edited) Vote Count Shawn Imperante/ImperialShadows - 2 votes (Alice, WhiteFang) Zita/Zapper Brick - 4 votes (Stash2Sixx, ImperialShadows, Hinckley, Quarryman) Just over 48 hours remain in the day. 10 players remain. A majority of 6 votes is required to condemn. Edited August 18, 2009 by TinyPiesRUs
Stash2Sixx Posted August 18, 2009 Posted August 18, 2009 Where is "new" Chris at? Aida, I really hope I'm not a naive investigator. But the only way to prove it right now would be for someone who is scum to come out and say it, right now; but they can't lie. Once again, one more roadblock.
Shadows Posted August 18, 2009 Posted August 18, 2009 Sure, go ahead and ignore the exact point, and rambling on Metagaming while complete ignoring your constant double-talk. Right, since your flawed argument about Ian/Ivan (who?) has been exposed as the crap that it is, now you want to gnore that and move on to another lame argument, but only after tossing in an unsubstantiated claim about "double-talk." There has been no double talk. I told people that Jerry was scum because of my investigation, and he was. I told people that Rose was a dangerous hatchet killer because of my investigation, and she was. You told people that both were innocent. You mourned the death of Rose. You are either scum or the worst member of any town I've ever seen. Ok, so maybe the Father isn't you thug, but I've figured out that he, insted, is your answer to the "All Shawn-Opposers are dead" thing. Oh. Guess what! You lose again. You're not dead either and you've been blathering for days. If I was scum, I can assure you, either you or the father would have died already. Try again. I've never heard of paranioa over accusing someone else. Just because you haven't heard of it doesn't make it any less valid. It's a standard situation. If Alice wants to claim that the Chief is naive, I can equally insist that Artie was paranoid, and honestly, my claim carries more weight. Why? Because I exposed Jerry privately before Artie went against me, and even with the evidence in front of him, he tried to use what I had collected against Jerry to try to oppose me. That is the work of a paranoid, they can't see the truth. Oh, and let's be clear on something else. Traditionally, naive and paranoid roles end at some point at which the person either begins to behave normally or ceases to be able to perform at all. Anything like that happened to you, Chief?
Zapper Brick Posted August 18, 2009 Posted August 18, 2009 Right, since your flawed argument about Ian/Ivan (who?) has been exposed as the crap that it is, now you want to gnore that and move on to another lame argument, but only after tossing in an unsubstantiated claim about "double-talk." There has been no double talk. I told people that Jerry was scum because of my investigation, and he was. I told people that Rose was a dangerous hatchet killer because of my investigation, and she was. You told people that both were innocent. You mourned the death of Rose. You are either scum or the worst member of any town I've ever seen.Oh. Guess what! You lose again. You're not dead either and you've been blathering for days. If I was scum, I can assure you, either you or the father would have died already. Try again. Just because you haven't heard of it doesn't make it any less valid. It's a standard situation. If Alice wants to claim that the Chief is naive, I can equally insist that Artie was paranoid, and honestly, my claim carries more weight. Why? Because I exposed Jerry privately before Artie went against me, and even with the evidence in front of him, he tried to use what I had collected against Jerry to try to oppose me. That is the work of a paranoid, they can't see the truth. Oh, and let's be clear on something else. Traditionally, naive and paranoid roles end at some point at which the person either begins to behave normally or ceases to be able to perform at all. Anything like that happened to you, Chief? I've been blathering for days, like I care what you think. You haven't killed me yet because you haven't bothered. But, when Artie and I accused you, you started reverse-talking, double-talking, and scolding us on how we accused you instead of facing are oppositon directly. Vote:Shawn/ImperialShadows The sucess of the Scum is sealed if you kill me, I've given up hope of winning, but maybe we, the Townies, can go down wit a last hurrah.
Quarryman Posted August 19, 2009 Posted August 19, 2009 And so it's time to go to bed, the day seems to have come to an end without a conviction. And as this isn't going anywhere anyway I unvote: Zita / Zapper Brick
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