Milan Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 I am pretty excited myself too about the compressor thing. I cant wait to see how it is going to be done! Quote
5150 Lego Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 Damn... I was hoping the mini excavator would kep the green colors in the Preliminary pics. Oh well. Quote
Parax Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 (edited) Add compressor function by purchasing 8293 Power Functions Motor Set It definatly says Compressor! now I'm Drooling... (Bet its just a minicylinder though) I think that is one of these: Nah look closely! you can see both sides of the hole. but I've just seen this new piece on TB's! Edited October 9, 2009 by Parax Quote
CP5670 Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 The new pieces are discussed in detail on TechnicBricks. The pin could be handy for a lot of things, and I think the new 20t bevel gear is idle and spins freely around its axle. So far, the dark gray 16t gear is the only such gear we have, aside from the differentials. Now if only they would make a 24t version, which would be a lot more useful. Woohoo! In order for this to be true, they must be planning on selling some compressor cylinder. Either that, or they will actually drive the large spring loaded pump with a motor. This sounds very interesting. I think the latter possibility seems more likely, unless they actually plan to include the small pump with the set as a spare part. TLG has in fact used a motorized large pump in one place before, a pictured "Recycler" robot on the RIS box I believe. I've heard people talk about the model but have never seen it. The PF M motor is also quite a bit more powerful than the old 71427 motors and should handle the large pump reasonably well, even with the spring. Quote
allanp Posted October 10, 2009 Posted October 10, 2009 It would probably be easiest for them to just include a motor pump in the set. I am really exited by this, this set is deffinately a must have! BTW does anyone else hear think that the small motor pump is in need of a revamp/upgrade for 2010 enableing the motor to generare more air pressure much more rapidly? Quote
kondzios230 Posted October 10, 2009 Posted October 10, 2009 One switch for each cylinder. One lifts the main boom, one lifts the jib. Thanks Blackbird. But how they would add a compressor? There is a extra small pump? Quote
Milan Posted October 10, 2009 Posted October 10, 2009 It would probably be easiest for them to just include a motor pump in the set. I am really exited by this, this set is deffinately a must have!BTW does anyone else hear think that the small motor pump is in need of a revamp/upgrade for 2010 enableing the motor to generare more air pressure much more rapidly? They could just use 2 small pumps, but it would be great if they can provide something new! Thanks Blackbird. But how they would add a compressor? There is a extra small pump? Here are current existing pumps: Small: http://media.peeron.com/pics/inv/custpics/x191c01.jpg Big: http://media.peeron.com/pics/inv/custpics/2797c01.jpg Some are saying that Lego is using some motor to power this bigger pump, we can just wait and eagerly see. Quote
allanp Posted October 10, 2009 Posted October 10, 2009 They could just use 2 small pumps, but it would be great if they can provide something new! That would be very cool. I can't think of many MOCs that use only one pump, they all seem to use about 4! I was thinking of something like making the pump body half a stud longer to make it easier to mount and perhaps making it 2 studs diameter instead of one (effectively increasing the pumping volume 4 fold which would be the same as having 4 motor pumps). Even better would be some kind of rotary pump (like a vien pump) that would fit right onto the front of the medium motor and has a through hole like the fiber optic light brick. However I can see that being too costly for lego to produce and probably not very efficient at PF motor speeds either. Would it even work at the very low output of either PF motor? Ok forget I mentioned it Oh wait but then if they realeased an L motor (similar power and speed as the buggy motor but in a PF format) Quote
Milan Posted October 10, 2009 Posted October 10, 2009 That would be very cool. I can't think of many MOCs that use only one pump, they all seem to use about 4! I was thinking of something like making the pump body half a stud longer to make it easier to mount and perhaps making it 2 studs diameter instead of one (effectively increasing the pumping volume 4 fold which would be the same as having 4 motor pumps). Even better would be some kind of rotary pump (like a vien pump) that would fit right onto the front of the medium motor and has a through hole like the fiber optic light brick. However I can see that being too costly for lego to produce and probably not very efficient at PF motor speeds either. Would it even work at the very low output of either PF motor? Ok forget I mentioned it Oh wait but then if they realeased an L motor (similar power and speed as the buggy motor but in a PF format) I think it would not be wise for Lego to place one big pump to motor. Because it will result in air to flow in waves...cylinders will work in waves, too. It is better for a model to have multiple pumps, to provide constant airflow to fed cylinders. One big cylinder in good for manual pumping, but it requres gearing down, thus speed of pumping is reduced and air flow is even more flowing in waves Quote
CP5670 Posted October 10, 2009 Posted October 10, 2009 (edited) That would be very cool. I can't think of many MOCs that use only one pump, they all seem to use about 4! I think two small pumps is enough for a model of typical size. The main advantage of having two pumps over one is that you can arrange them in a double-acting configuration, so you get air pumped twice as fast without any extra load on the motor. I was thinking of something like making the pump body half a stud longer to make it easier to mount and perhaps making it 2 studs diameter instead of one (effectively increasing the pumping volume 4 fold which would be the same as having 4 motor pumps). This is basically what the existing large pump is. You can actually remove the spring from it to make it more suitable for a compressor. The small pump used to still work better with the old 71427 motors, but the much more powerful motors we have today might work well on the large pump. Edited October 10, 2009 by CP5670 Quote
kondzios230 Posted October 10, 2009 Posted October 10, 2009 They could just use 2 small pumps, but it would be great if they can provide something new!Here are current existing pumps: Small: http://media.peeron.com/pics/inv/custpics/x191c01.jpg Big: http://media.peeron.com/pics/inv/custpics/2797c01.jpg Some are saying that Lego is using some motor to power this bigger pump, we can just wait and eagerly see. I know it. I wanted to say that I don't see small pump at the photos. Quote
Mortymore Posted October 10, 2009 Posted October 10, 2009 (edited) Today I worked out some images from Amazon, in Photoshop. At my BS folder (when moderated): http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=405026 Direct links for images (since my BS folder may take some time to be moderated) http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Mortymor..._helicopter.jpg http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Mortymor...elicopter_b.jpg http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Mortymor...i_excavator.jpg http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Mortymor..._8048_buggy.jpg http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Mortymor...048_buggy_2.jpg http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Mortymor...9_logloader.jpg http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Mortymor...logloader_2.jpg For now it's what I have done. Enjoy Regards Edited October 10, 2009 by Mortymore Quote
merman Posted October 10, 2009 Posted October 10, 2009 (edited) What really strikes me: the Buggy has tan 3L axles with studs and the Tractor has them still in dark bley... so they use two types... Both are visible at the front wheels... or does the tractor use 5.5 axles??? Edited October 10, 2009 by merman Quote
Front Posted October 10, 2009 Posted October 10, 2009 What really strikes me: the Buggy has tan 3L axles with studs and the Tractor has them still in dark bley... so they use two types...Both are visible at the front wheels... or does the tractor use 5.5 axles??? 3L cross axles are changed in 2010. Quote
Brickthing Posted October 10, 2009 Posted October 10, 2009 3L cross axles are changed in 2010. Why do they need to be changed though? Their shape and colour has always been distinctive. Also, is it dark tan or light tan? Quote
Mortymore Posted October 10, 2009 Posted October 10, 2009 (edited) Here goes the rest of the big Technic pics http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Mortymor...telehandler.jpg http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Mortymor...lehandler_2.jpg http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Mortymor...excavator_b.jpg http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Mortymor...048_buggy_b.jpg Regards PS: All images were posted on TechnicBricks And by the way... today (Oct/11) is the 2nd anniversary of TechnicBrick. Happy birthday TechnicBricks. Edited October 11, 2009 by Mortymore Quote
merman Posted October 10, 2009 Posted October 10, 2009 3L cross axles are changed in 2010. yes I know that but to me it seems they still come in two colors, the tractor seems to have them in dark grey Quote
allanp Posted October 11, 2009 Posted October 11, 2009 I think two small pumps is enough for a model of typical size. The main advantage of having two pumps over one is that you can arrange them in a double-acting configuration, so you get air pumped twice as fast without any extra load on the motor. That is a very good point, looks like i'm just gonna have to visit bricklink a buy more pumps This is basically what the existing large pump is. You can actually remove the spring from it to make it more suitable for a compressor. The small pump used to still work better with the old 71427 motors, but the much more powerful motors we have today might work well on the large pump. I have seen that done. I might try it but the purist inside me says no ya crazy fool, that's cheating Quote
cagri Posted October 11, 2009 Posted October 11, 2009 So we'll get this part in tan too ?? Nice .. Quote
Milan Posted October 11, 2009 Posted October 11, 2009 I am very interested in that new grey gears in the excavator! Cant wait to see how it looks like! Quote
allanp Posted October 11, 2009 Posted October 11, 2009 yes I know that but to me it seems they still come in twocolors, the tractor seems to have them in dark grey It looks to me like those dark grey axles on the front wheels of the tractor are the new 4 long with stop axle. Thankyou Mortymore for the pictures, nice one! Quote
Mortymore Posted October 12, 2009 Posted October 12, 2009 The boxes if you're interested http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Mortymor...go_8045_box.jpg http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Mortymor...go_8046_box.jpg http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Mortymor...go_8047_box.jpg http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Mortymor...go_8048_box.jpg http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Mortymor...go_8049_box.jpg Some have a different perspective pictured in the box, from the solo images. Regards Quote
tomacwhite Posted October 13, 2009 Posted October 13, 2009 The new sets look great now we have some decent photos of them. The 'B' model Sea Plane and Tractor look great too. I hope the B model for the Log Loader isn't simply a trailer change, but I guess that is more then likely. Quote
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