Captain Harlowe Posted September 2, 2009 Author Posted September 2, 2009 Hi! Well, um, you have those gaps in the secks, to allow supplies etc. being loaded or unloaded from the ships hold. Usually they are not covered with solid boards, but with grates, to allow fresh air and light to enter the lower decks, and powder smoke to exit them. in very bad weather they're covered with thin boards and sailcloth. From Above, it looks something like this: ______________ |[][][][][][][][][]| |[][][][][][][][][]| |[][][][][][][][][]| |[][][][][][][][][]| |[][][][][][][][][]| |[][][][][][][][][]| |[][][][][][][][][]| |[][][][][][][][][]| Quote
Admiral M Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 (edited) I know what he means. They're the plates you hide your treasure under in most of the old fortress sets (eldorado, ITP, Rock Island Refuge, Etc) Hi again...I am desperate...I was trying to build a figurehead but, I'm just not made for this XDIs there anyone, who might help me with that? Best Regards, Capt. Harlowe I MOCed some figureheads for you, it really depends on the shape of your prow: Edited September 3, 2009 by Admiral M Quote
Captain Harlowe Posted September 3, 2009 Author Posted September 3, 2009 Hey, thank you very much. Your Figureheads are very nice, a great inspiration and basis to start off from! Thanks alot for them. I know, what Lego-part you have in mind, but I'm willing to moc the real thing. Quote
Rick Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 I know what he means. They're the plates you hide your treasure under in most of the old fortress sets (eldorado, ITP, Rock Island Refuge, Etc) Quote
Captain Harlowe Posted September 3, 2009 Author Posted September 3, 2009 Thanks. Thats the Lego-Way to build them. The original grates on the Sips where unually not made diagonally Thus I d prefer not using these parts, and build something from normal bricks, flats or tiles. Capt. Harlowe Quote
Admiral Croissant Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 I don't know how to put the image on this forum in the good way, but this will work too. http://www.bricklink.com/search.asp?colorI...&itemID=301 You could use some of these fences for it. It's not my idea but I'm going to use it as well and it looks quite good. Quote
Captain Harlowe Posted September 3, 2009 Author Posted September 3, 2009 Very nice ides..I can make good use of it on another project. But the "Holes" sre to big for my purpose...a minifig could break a leg XD. The Originals were carefully dimensioned not to allow a mens shoe heel to fit the holes. *grin* Captain Charles F. Harlowe Quote
Admiral M Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 Ah, yes, that method looks good, but the planks only go one way. Quote
Teddy Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 For the grates I'm using a brickbuild version in my HMS Victory MOC, which is an idea i got from a discussion with CGH (CBH) Here is a picture with a single grate in the orlop (center right in the photo): For the large pounder canons I've designed these brickbuild MOC guns: Hope this helps you a bit in your build. Kind regards, Teddy Quote
Big Cam Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 Great topic. Good start so far. Can't wait to see the ship. Quote
Captain Harlowe Posted September 3, 2009 Author Posted September 3, 2009 Thanks. I was trying to snot the grates, but if I use tiles, I dont know how to make them into larger pieces. The Gun is great!!! Too great for my humble frigate...space is limited. But I'll keep an Eye on you design, for possible later projects Capt. Harlowe Quote
Teddy Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 Thanks.I was trying to snot the grates, but if I use tiles, I dont know how to make them into larger pieces. The Gun is great!!! Too great for my humble frigate...space is limited. But I'll keep an Eye on you design, for possible later projects Capt. Harlowe Hi Capt.Harlowe, glad you like my Gun. The grate is actually SNOT. The decking consist of tiles. The grate is build by 1x1 bricks 1x1 tiles and 1x? plates and tiles for the edge. The size is such that it fits in the spacing left inbetween the tiling. It can be lifted off. Here is a link to a higher resolution photo. Link to a higher res photo Hope this clarifies it a bit. Kind regards, Teddy Quote
Admiral M Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 The grate is actually SNOT. The decking consist of tiles. The grate is build by 1x1 bricks 1x1 tiles and 1x? plates and tiles for the edge. Ah, I see how you did it! You're helping me, too, though with what I don't know! Of course, since Cpt. Harlowe's deck isn't going to be as thick as yours, Perhaps instead he should do a conventional grid instead of SNOT. Quote
Teddy Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 Ah, I see how you did it! You're helping me, too, though with what I don't know!Of course, since Cpt. Harlowe's deck isn't going to be as thick as yours, Perhaps instead he should do a conventional grid instead of SNOT. Hi Admiral M. By snotting just 1 stud wide the grating is just 2.5 plates high. So a normal grid with studs on top is equal in hight (actually higher counting the lego logo on top of the studs). So SNOTting can be done in a fairly thin manner. Kind regards, Teddy Quote
Joey Lock Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 Hi Admiral M.By snotting just 1 stud wide the grating is just 2.5 plates high. So a normal grid with studs on top is equal in hight (actually higher counting the lego logo on top of the studs). So SNOTting can be done in a fairly thin manner. Kind regards, Teddy How are you getting along on your HMS Victory Teddy? Quote
Admiral M Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 Hi Admiral M.By snotting just 1 stud wide the grating is just 2.5 plates high. So a normal grid with studs on top is equal in hight (actually higher counting the lego logo on top of the studs). So SNOTting can be done in a fairly thin manner. Kind regards, Teddy Good point, though all that really matters is how thick his deck is. If it's only one plate deep, It really wouldn't make sence to use SNOT. Of course, anything else makes it look good, so we really would have to know the deck's depth. Quote
Teddy Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 How are you getting along on your HMS Victory Teddy? Hi Joey Lock, I'm still collecting bricks for the next phase. Captain Green (Blue) Hair visited last weekend. The plan was to build a bit on the HMS Victory MOC. But, we started with a beer and ended drinking beer in the pub. Kind regards, Teddy Quote
Captain Harlowe Posted September 3, 2009 Author Posted September 3, 2009 (edited) As my ship will be a Waterlinemodel, and the Deck below the Gundeck will be half under Water, I am omitting it to allow for a stable foundation of the ship, allowing a dark "hole", tiled black, to allew looking through the grates, withour seeing anything. So the height of the deck doesn't matter. If it were constructed as I planned earlier, with deckbeams, small beams in between and finally planking, it would be 3-5 plates thick. I am, at the moment, prefering SNOT(where does this abbreviation come from?) decks, as they allow me to show the decks structure, and possible add a slight curvature to it, but tiles also look nice, and would allow the other decks to keep the same style as the rest of the ship, and still show the accurate technique uon they underside... I could waterpaint the sides of the tiles black, or whipe the decks with watered down watercolour, to allow the pitch to be visible between the individual planks...But that is another use of non-Lego material... However, I am uncertain of the colour for the decks. The light rey would match originals decks nicely, as they were rapidly bleached from sunlight, washing ans saltwater into a grey. I am afraid, that it might let the ship look boring, but on the other hand, the hull is painted red on the inside, brown on the outside, and detailed in black/darkgrey and decorated in gold/green... Captain Harlowe Edited September 3, 2009 by Captain Harlowe Quote
Captain Blackmoor Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 But, we started with a beer and ended drinking beer in the pub. Kind regards, Teddy Haha, he told me about that. You drunk pirate scums... The SNOT grate looks great, I use fences like Admiral Croissant mentioned. They are more detailed then SNOT in my opinion and can also be lifted off the construction. Good luck on your ship Captain Harlowe, I think it will turn out great! Quote
Captain Harlowe Posted September 3, 2009 Author Posted September 3, 2009 "Good luck on your ship Captain Harlowe, I think it will turn out great!" thank you very much ...I hope it will turn out somewhere near the result I am looking for. Capt. Harlowe Quote
Captain Green Hair Posted September 4, 2009 Posted September 4, 2009 I'll be making the ''grates'' for the Prince Willim in that exact same way, as i still haven't figured out a better way to make 'm and i think they look quite good. The holes are 2 plates big, so a minifig can't get caught in the holes. Captain Green (Blue) Hair visited last weekend.The plan was to build a bit on the HMS Victory MOC. But, we started with a beer and ended drinking beer in the pub. Kind regards, Teddy Yes, well that was equally as fun as building. *burp* Quote
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