Rick Posted December 25, 2009 Posted December 25, 2009 And a wizard and a new joker and perhaps some more when the real-deal sets are released.(those are still prelim pics people). Right, and if I recall from previous prelim pics, minifigs and accessories are most likely to be changed last-minute: new molds, new printings, etc... Quote
Mörs Posted December 25, 2009 Posted December 25, 2009 And a wizard and a new joker and perhaps some more when the real-deal sets are released.(those are still prelim pics people). I can't believe there are so few minifigs in the two biggest sets... Not to mention no archers (at least, I can't see any). This might indicate they are prototypes and will probably change. I wonder who the Dragon Knights' leader will be, though... the green wizard, perhaps? Does anyone else feel like this new line is a remake of the year 1995 -- the war between Royal Knights and Dragon Masters? Well, both the king and the wizard are back. And the Royal castle looks very promising and original. I love the new helmet design (though my favourite helmet is the one with the moving visor; hope they bring them back, too). I guess we'll just have to wait and see... ...Wait a minute, did somebody just say they liked KK2?! ARE YOU KIDDING?! It was THE ultimate crappy "anti-classic" Castle!! I mean, the jelly bean soldiers... Power Rangers or what? Sandy: what's your favourite LEGO Castle? My favourite is definitely 6085, the Black Knights' Castle from 1988 -- it's Classic Castle at it's finest! 'Cause if you say it's King's Castle Siege, then... I don't know what to say... PS. Come to think of it -- wasn't there already a baby dragon in Harry Potter? Not sure if it's the same mold this time, though... Quote
metalandi Posted December 25, 2009 Posted December 25, 2009 Ever heard anything of different opinions? I also didn't like the kk themes as whole, but i liked particular sets, and i'm sure there a re a lot of people that loved the whole theme. Still, i can't really find a lot of similarities to kk2 in these 2 new sets..it's back to human against human, which is awesome, and i also love the colour schemes. Can't wait to see these sets in reality. Quote
Lordofdragonss Posted December 25, 2009 Posted December 25, 2009 (edited) PS. Come to think of it -- wasn't there already a baby dragon in Harry Potter? Not sure if it's the same mold this time, though... Yes, you have right, but now we have it in two sets(impulse and "dragon tower") in dark green color instead of sand green or black! The dragon was just in two licenced HP sets: Graveyard Duel andHagrid's Hut. Edited December 25, 2009 by Lordofdragonss Quote
Joe H Posted December 25, 2009 Posted December 25, 2009 Personally, I think I was a bit harsh before actually seeing the sets - they don't resemble the 2007/2008 sets at all (other than names). The castle design looks great - I specifically like the red tower and gate. Also, the knights set looks interesting, in the sense that it's probably going to be a good way to get some good figures and accessories at a decent price. The only thing I would've liked to see more is a different color scheme - I'm not a big fan of the dark brown/black/green or the red/white themes. Nevertheless, I'm excited!! Quote
metalandi Posted December 25, 2009 Posted December 25, 2009 From these pictures so far the big castle from the "good" and that tower from the "evil" faction are my favourites. They also look like they could have some nice interior inside the towers. at least i hope so Quote
Nikola Bathory Posted December 25, 2009 Posted December 25, 2009 The only thing I would've liked to see more is a different color scheme - I'm not a big fan of the dark brown/black/green or the red/white themes. Hm, brown/black/green looks cool and evil, but I have to say that the red/white theme is boring and ugly. Looks like an ambulance! Quote
The Green Brick Giant Posted December 25, 2009 Posted December 25, 2009 Umm yeah actually I like knight kingdom 1 and 2 Oh well that explains it, some people just have no taste. hehe Quote
Clone OPatra Posted December 25, 2009 Posted December 25, 2009 Oh well that explains it, some people just have no taste. hehe Do you have to be rude just because you have a difference of opinion? KK 1 and 2 had some good elements, especially the many printed legs in KK1, and there were plenty of well designed and grand sets in KK2, like Vladek's fortress for example. Both themes were certainly very far from a classic style, but there were plenty of good things about them that could lead some people to like them very much. Anyway, let's not get this discussion too sidetracked on whether people liked or disliked other Castle lines, since KK has been gone for years and I don't think there's any realistic worry that it'll be coming back. These new sets clearly show that LEGO is currently not interested in jelly beans or big ugly bull battering rams, so let's keep this to talking about how the new pictures look rather than debating themes that have passed. Quote
gogobig Posted December 25, 2009 Posted December 25, 2009 I can't believe there are so few minifigs in the two biggest sets... Not to mention no archers (at least, I can't see any). This might indicate they are prototypes and will probably change. I wonder who the Dragon Knights' leader will be, though... the green wizard, perhaps? Does anyone else feel like this new line is a remake of the year 1995 -- the war between Royal Knights and Dragon Masters? Well, both the king and the wizard are back. And the Royal castle looks very promising and original. I love the new helmet design (though my favourite helmet is the one with the moving visor; hope they bring them back, too). I guess we'll just have to wait and see... ...Wait a minute, did somebody just say they liked KK2?! ARE YOU KIDDING?! It was THE ultimate crappy "anti-classic" Castle!! I mean, the jelly bean soldiers... Power Rangers or what? Sandy: what's your favourite LEGO Castle? My favourite is definitely 6085, the Black Knights' Castle from 1988 -- it's Classic Castle at it's finest! 'Cause if you say it's King's Castle Siege, then... I don't know what to say... PS. Come to think of it -- wasn't there already a baby dragon in Harry Potter? Not sure if it's the same mold this time, though... Mors, I agree with you that the new castle line heavily reminds of the 1995 Royal Knights and Dragon Knights. However, considering those two as one of my favorite factions, I am extremely pleased with this. I was expecting Elves this year, but perhaps we will see them in the upcoming years. As for KK2 it is a mater of personal preference; while it might not be interesting to you, others might find it interesting. Personally, I thought that KK2 brought a lot of interesting pieces from soldiers (armor and helmets, which can be used for "special forces" or even generals and captains) to many useful bricks for MOCs. It is very hard to argue about personal taste ;) All in all I am extremely pleased with this new castle line and cannot wait for it to come out. Quote
Mörs Posted December 25, 2009 Posted December 25, 2009 I like how the wheels of that little catapult in the small "duel" set are made. Quote
KimT Posted December 25, 2009 Posted December 25, 2009 It's time to skip flaming and start discussing in a more mature manner. Some people like Fantasy Era, some don't. Some people like KK and KK2, some don't. Be nice and behave people or else Santa wont be coming around next year. (I will though, and much sooner than that ) The new sets are awesome - period - disagree and I'll have your hides Remember as mentioned earlier that the pics are preliminary designs and more than liable to change before finally put into production. They're not out until August and the pics we've seen are meant to get stores interested and therefore ordering a bunch of them. Quote
Sandy Posted December 25, 2009 Posted December 25, 2009 Sandy: what's your favourite LEGO Castle? My favourite is definitely 6085, the Black Knights' Castle from 1988 -- it's Classic Castle at it's finest! 'Cause if you say it's King's Castle Siege, then... I don't know what to say... PS. Come to think of it -- wasn't there already a baby dragon in Harry Potter? Not sure if it's the same mold this time, though... Well, I personally own just three full-fledged castles - King Leo's Castle, the Trolls' Dark Fortress and now the King's Castle Siege, but my favorite castle-like set is actually the Dwarves' Mine. Out of "real" castles, though, the one that holds most appeal to me most is the Royal Knights' Castle. As for the baby dragon, it is indeed the same mold as the Harry Potter one. Quote
NorthernKnight Posted December 25, 2009 Posted December 25, 2009 These new sets looks fantastic. There is a green wizard, no crappy gigantic siege machines that makes no sense, and i love the green-brown-black color scheme of the dragon knights. The red and white (danish?) one is not as nice but at least it will be a new fraction in my tiny plastic army. So, after just seeing a couple of prelim pics, I'll be setting aside 100 euro for Lego this year (for myself of course, i have no kids). I'll be looking forward to seeing some pictures of the final sets. Quote
RocketClone Posted December 25, 2009 Posted December 25, 2009 IMHO i really love the Kingdoms theme the matter red elements being used in a castle theme gets my attention. Quote
Sir Dano Posted December 25, 2009 Posted December 25, 2009 The thing I love most about the new sets is that they're like Dragon Masters Vs Royal Knights Round 2. :wub: My only complaints are the lack of kite shields and large dragons for the dragon knights. Quote
ProducePrincess Posted December 26, 2009 Posted December 26, 2009 I find the Red castle looks too much like the Kings castle seige set, the gatehouse looks nice though and the red colouring really make it catch my eye. Quote
hollisbrick Posted December 26, 2009 Posted December 26, 2009 The thing I love most about the new sets is that they're like Dragon Masters Vs Royal Knights Round 2. :wub: My only complaints are the lack of kite shields and large dragons for the dragon knights. I agree, but hopefully we'll see the dragon in the next wave. I hope we get we get a dragon like the one in the 90's Quote
gusmoore17 Posted December 26, 2009 Posted December 26, 2009 Keeping up controversy: There's no point with wich we can compare KK's, Castle and this new theme, I think these 3 themes are different because of they're own background story. Maybe, its only share point is...they use "castles", and if that's the case I'd compare them also with HP ones...which is not the case here. However, IMO: KK=playability; Castle=imagination; Kingdoms=history accurate. I've loved and hated many of the "castle based" sets released through this 2000-decade, but I want to defend the sets that IMO had something worthy: 1. 10176 King's Castle. Design, history accurate, playability, accesories, minifigs. Some flaws in design, but overall a really well done set from surprisely (and even supposedly) KKII theme. 2. 7029 Skeleton Ship Attack. Playability, Design (a port or something like that, woow), minifigs, accesories. 3. 8877 Vladek's Dark Fortress. Design, interiors (very history accurate indeed, simple and 80's old-styled), playability. It's a huge set, but as KK theme in general, many big pieces but also new and quite cool ones, however once it's built, it's magnificent. Hating the "good knights" catapult, that's I think its great weakness. 4. 7036 Dwarves' Mine. Design, minifigs, concept (a dwarves' mine!), details, color scheme, accesories. Its problem: it is not thaaat "mine-like"...however, use your imagination! 5. 8802+8801 Knights' attack barge & Dark Fortress Landing. General concept, playability, minifigs, accesories. I find this combo quite interesting, maybe its execution is too bulky (again, the great KKII flaw), but honestly very playable, I think it's the first set (and if I am wrong, please correct me, I'm only 22 y.o.), that featured an actual ship attacking a fortress at bay. Very fun to build too. 6. 7079 Drawbridge Defense. Design, concept, minifigs, accesories, color scheme, playability. Beautiful designed tower, lacks of interiors as almost any of the Castle theme sets, but its minifigs and the entire concept of a reaper kidnapping a queen, featuring a jester and a beautiful golden knight...the only set I got, this year apart from... 7. 10193 Medieval Market Village. Awesome, design, history accurate, playability, accesorires, minifigs, color scheme. I don't have to say anything else. 8. 7037 Tower Raid. Concept, minifigs, design, playability, color scheme, accesories. Awesome war wagon or kart or whatever the english word is for it. Some design flaws, specially when it comes to the take-down-the-tower features. Great for battle scenery. 9. 8780 Citadel of Orlan. Concept, playability, color scheme. Another very <insert that tiresome argument> set from KKII but from its first year...I must say the KK stuff didn't get me just until a year later of its release...sometimes I regret on buying for example set no. 8781 the Castle of Morcia...nevertheless there are features I do like of it, and the same happens with 8780, but I don't regret of this one. I really love the design concept: a kind of test chambers sequence through the power ranger knights have to test their courage. Really outstanding playability features, great colours, specially for the little vitral, and once it's assembled, looks really great, you can't keep from wanting to move around all the mechanisms. Many big pieces and the power rangers knights though. 10. 8788 Border Ambush. Concept, playability, color scheme, accesories. The little castle featured here it's one of my favorite designed sets, very stupid from TLC not to feature a really good view of it in any of its box art. The bridge, the traps and the stair are really cool too, all in all a very well designed set, except maybe from the thing that throws the rock, it's just not right, so I removed it. Red knight...it's not thaaat bad. Hope we can discuss this maybe in another thread, I agree with the guy that talked about adapting the new sets to make them fit your taste, but I think it's also about adopting them, and I think the Kingdoms ones for 2010 are made for AFOLs, I'll wait for their release and just until I bought and build them I shall judge them just the way I did with the ones I've mentioned above. And please, don't call people stupid or something just because they like things different from you, got enough of that stuff in my own country... Quote
Jack Bricker Posted December 26, 2009 Posted December 26, 2009 (edited) I really like the look of the new castle and I am very excited about finally having a great helm. I love those helmets and I just can't wait to have one. I also like the dragon tower. I agree with a lot of other members that the theme seems resemble the dragon knights against royal knights which was my favorite castle them of all time. I am also excited about the design of the castle which seem to be very remenisant of the Kings Castle set from the 80s. Edited December 26, 2009 by bengun Quote
Mörs Posted December 26, 2009 Posted December 26, 2009 Alright, I'm very sure these sets are prototypes, i.e., not what we will actually see on shelfs in stores. Look at the Royal castle... the king has just as many people to defend it as there are Dragons attacking it... which is... ridiculous. The Dragons also have only one building. Isn't that very odd? And the wizard isn't even present in their largest set? Come on! Also, look at the small set with the little catapult... that has to be one of the weirdest sets I've ever seen. Why would there be a soldier with a catapult and one of the opposing faction in one set? I've never seen that kind of a combination before. Quote
Sandy Posted December 26, 2009 Posted December 26, 2009 Look at the Royal castle... the king has just as many people to defend it as there are Dragons attacking it... which is... ridiculous. The Dragons also have only one building. Isn't that very odd? And the wizard isn't even present in their largest set? Come on!Also, look at the small set with the little catapult... that has to be one of the weirdest sets I've ever seen. Why would there be a soldier with a catapult and one of the opposing faction in one set? I've never seen that kind of a combination before. Uh, have you even seen the current Castle sets? In King's Castle Siege, there's five knights against four skeletons (and a dragon). Both the undead and the troll factions also had just one building. The good wizard came separate in an impulse. And there was also a set that had just a catapult. So there is nothing new about the things you're whining about. Don't you realize that these sets are meant to be combined with each other? That's why every set doesn't include every possible thing. Quote
Sir Dano Posted December 26, 2009 Posted December 26, 2009 Also, look at the small set with the little catapult... that has to be one of the weirdest sets I've ever seen. Why would there be a soldier with a catapult and one of the opposing faction in one set? I've never seen that kind of a combination before. Really? It's been standard practice for a while now. Quote
badboytje88 Posted December 26, 2009 Posted December 26, 2009 Oh my these 2010 LEGO castle sets look soooo promising! I can't wait to get my hands on them! A dark green wizard! Quote
metalandi Posted December 26, 2009 Posted December 26, 2009 Alright, I'm very sure these sets are prototypes, i.e., not what we will actually see on shelfs in stores. Of course they are, that's why it says "preliminary" all over the box art. But the past years have showed us, that there isn't beeing changed that much anymore on the actual set design, more like only on the minifigs and that. Look at apreliminary picture of the troll's mountain fortress for example, the building came out exact the same, just some of the figs had different designs/helmets and so on. I'm pretty sure what we see here will be pretty much the deal, except very little things. Quote
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