ziljin Posted April 16, 2010 Posted April 16, 2010 I like the great helm. I intend on purchasing many Kingdom sets. The great helms are a plus. This will be my first chance to collect a Castle theme in its entirety. I was a fan of lego as a child, but only got back recently right when most of the Fantasy Era sets were no longer available. But I got around 20 dwarves and 30 trolls so I should be good with that if never never release fantasy sets again. Now I get to mass collect human minifigs. Quote
metalandi Posted April 16, 2010 Posted April 16, 2010 (edited) excuse me, i noticed a lot of people write "helm"..if you mean with that the thing knights wear on their head, then it's a HELMET, helm means something completely different :P Edited April 16, 2010 by metalandi Quote
The Crazy One Posted April 16, 2010 Posted April 16, 2010 excuse me, i noticed a lot of people write "helm"..if you mean with that the think knights wear on their head, then it's a HELMET, helm means something completely different :P The wonderful world of '' shortening words down so there is less to type '' Quote
Sir Dillon Posted April 16, 2010 Author Posted April 16, 2010 excuse me, i noticed a lot of people write "helm"..if you mean with that the thing knights wear on their head, then it's a HELMET, helm means something completely different :P The word "helm" has multiple meanings, but saying "great helm" to describe this helmet is actually correct: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/helm (second definition) Quote
Jack Bricker Posted April 17, 2010 Posted April 17, 2010 My only wish is that they put two eye slits in the great helms and made them so that you can put horns on them like the Teutonic Knights had. Quote
Sir Dillon Posted April 17, 2010 Author Posted April 17, 2010 ... made them so that you can put horns on them like the Teutonic Knights had. I wouldn't want that. Horns in the helmets could look cool, but whenever you didn't have horns there would be ugly holes in the sides of the helmets. Quote
Euvor Posted April 17, 2010 Posted April 17, 2010 I wouldn't want that. Horns in the helmets could look cool, but whenever you didn't have horns there would be ugly holes in the sides of the helmets. True. Maybe there could be some helmets with horn holes and some without? Quote
The Crazy One Posted April 17, 2010 Posted April 17, 2010 True. Maybe there could be some helmets with horn holes and some without? Waste of money. You would probabley do better glueing horns to the helmets. I highly doubt another version would be realeased. Quote
legobear Posted April 17, 2010 Posted April 17, 2010 I would be ecstatic if they just put in the great helm for the Lion Knights. I really do hope that these pics will change as this month passes b/c otherwise, it'd be pretty sad trying to collect those great helms for the Lion Knights T.T !!! Of course, pretty difficult as well and very pricey. Quote
Cardinal Brick Posted April 19, 2010 Posted April 19, 2010 Well I go away for a while and find all this when I get back, I'm quite impressed though it does all feel a tad formulaic. I'm not to sure about the headgear but I'll reserve judgment on that until I get to have it in my hands. I'm really looking forward to the advent calendar, I wasn't to impressed with the pirate one but this one looks like something I'll be getting a few of. Quote
Santhor Posted April 19, 2010 Posted April 19, 2010 Well I go away for a while and find all this when I get back, I'm quite impressed though it does all feel a tad formulaic. I'm not to sure about the headgear but I'll reserve judgment on that until I get to have it in my hands.I'm really looking forward to the advent calendar, I wasn't to impressed with the pirate one but this one looks like something I'll be getting a few of. Good point. But I didn't know the Teutonic Knights did the horn thing...doesn't seem that that'd be allowed in the "warrior-monk code of conduct" -Santhor Quote
Sir Dillon Posted April 20, 2010 Author Posted April 20, 2010 Good point. But I didn't know the Teutonic Knights did the horn thing...doesn't seem that that'd be allowed in the "warrior-monk code of conduct" -Santhor I don't know how accurate it is, but many illustrations depict Teutonic knights with wings or horns on their helmets. For example: Quote
Nicholai Posted April 20, 2010 Posted April 20, 2010 Most of great helms didn't have horns but this type of helmet, unlike open or visored helmet, was covering whole face. That means the decoratives like wings or horns were the only way to distinct one knight from other. Quote
Jack Bricker Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 (edited) What I wish they would do is make a piece that has horns and that could just stick on top of the great helm and thereby eliminate any possible ugly holes on the sides. I would really like to have some teutonic knights. Maby brickforge will make some horned great helms after a while. Edited April 21, 2010 by Jack Bricker Quote
Santhor Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 Most of great helms didn't have horns but this type of helmet, unlike open or visored helmet, was covering whole face.That means the decoratives like wings or horns were the only way to distinct one knight from other. Yes, that's a good point, but the family coat of arms on the shield and as a medieval T-shirt over their armor also helped distinguish them, among other things like their horse, which also might have the coat of arms. By the way thanks for the pics Sir Dillon, those look more like "good guy" horns, or wings would be "permitted" as well. -Santhor Quote
Oederland Posted April 22, 2010 Posted April 22, 2010 Actually I don't think it was especially typical for teutonic knights to wear wings or horns. It should be the same for knights from other countries. Only rich knights were able to afford a horse and expensive weapons including impressive crests probably. And normally, they were worn only for tournaments. To get an impression, you might want to have a look at the illustrations included in the Codex Manesse which dates back to about 1300 (see http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Codex_Manesse ). Quote
Oederland Posted April 22, 2010 Posted April 22, 2010 (edited) And concerning the new helmet, this type was common since about 1250. Because of the introduction of the stirrup it was now possible to use longer and heavier lances in the way we know from jousting. But in contrast to tournaments, you aimed on the head. Therefore it was important to improve the protection of the head. It was common to wear a so-called cervelière ("Hirnhaube") and later on the bascinet ("Beckenhaube") below the great helm (the cervelière was a close-fitting cap of metal around the head). The great helms were quite heavy, you had a limited field of view and it was not that easy to breathe. That's why knights did not even wear the great helm all the time during battles. Edited April 22, 2010 by Oederland Quote
Alex the Great Posted April 27, 2010 Posted April 27, 2010 Don't think these have been posted yet, but, there is some new pics at C-C clicky Quote
Hive Posted April 27, 2010 Posted April 27, 2010 I'm not sure whether this has been mentioned or not, but since I have so far heard a July/August release date for this new line I just wanted to tell you guys that I found a Danish webstore that sells the sets from May 28 and onwards. Quote
Legorski Posted April 28, 2010 Posted April 28, 2010 Don't think these have been posted yet, but, there is some new pics at C-Cclicky Thanks for notifying us, though the pics are still blurry, its good to see that they are being released, Quote
Dannylonglegs Posted April 28, 2010 Posted April 28, 2010 (edited) Awesome! More blurry pics! *Sigh,* the Dragon Knights still need a leader. I'm sure that TLC will expand on that around Christmas though. ~Insectoid Aristocrat Edited April 28, 2010 by Dannylonglegs Quote
Sir Dillon Posted April 28, 2010 Author Posted April 28, 2010 The images might not be amazing quality, but they're better than the other pictures we've had. I'm particularly glad to see a larger picture of the tower. Quote
Commodore Hornbricker Posted April 28, 2010 Posted April 28, 2010 Thanks for the new pictures. I'm kind of excited for these new sets. Quote
Santhor Posted April 28, 2010 Posted April 28, 2010 Wait, does the Prison Tower Rescue still have 3 Dragon Knights? I sure hope so....... -Santhor Quote
The Penguin Posted April 28, 2010 Posted April 28, 2010 (edited) Wait, does the Prison Tower Rescue still have 3 Dragon Knights? I sure hope so.......-Santhor Why? I see two. So does the upper side of the box show us. A shame really that there are so few Dragons in the line..... EDIT: According to my calculations it's 8 Dragon Knights vs 12 Lion Knights (without the maid). Good day, ladies and gentlemen! ) Edited April 28, 2010 by The Penguin Quote
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