Rick Posted January 8, 2010 Posted January 8, 2010 Is that USD? Those are Euro (€) prices. Last time I checked, they didn't use dollars in Italy Quote
LisasPapa Posted January 8, 2010 Posted January 8, 2010 New Trainmodel pictures ;-) http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=4259408 Quote
lightningtiger Posted January 8, 2010 Posted January 8, 2010 New Trainmodel pictures ;-)http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=4259408 Ah, we have all seen them before. Quote
WesternOutlaw Posted January 8, 2010 Posted January 8, 2010 New Trainmodel pictures ;-) Yes, thanks for sharing, but these have been circulating for some time (and provided in this thread a few times). Quote
Piranha Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 Those pictures are new to me I had seen the enlarged ones but not this, must be from a dealer catalog? Quite interesting, final versions perhaps? Quote
Rick Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 Those pictures are new to me I had seen the enlarged ones but not this, must be from a dealer catalog? Quite interesting, final versions perhaps? No, the pictures last linked are the scans of the full pages of the Dutch dealer catalog, from which the ones that we've seen before are cut-outs. The full pages were on Brickshelf before, but were quickly removed. So: nothing new. Quote
pdxbricks Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 Any pics yet of the new Hogwarts Express #4841 ??? Quote
Brickimad Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 No, the pictures last linked are the scans of the full pages of the Dutch dealer catalog, from which the ones that we've seen before are cut-outs. The full pages were on Brickshelf before, but were quickly removed. So: nothing new. Here's a new one... Quote
Rick Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 Here's a new one... It sure is a new picture, but this isn't even Lego. Quote
MetroiD Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 this isn't even Lego. Spot on, even though I think at some point it was LEGO designers who came up with this and then ditched it... No way to verify that, of course, but it just doesn't look like the kind of thing that a Chinese rip-off brand could come up with, especially bearing in mind that this particular set was sold alongside Super Chief & Co. rip-offs. Sorry for the stupid question but -- am I the only one who sees the new trains as a wonderful opportunity to "motorize" the Emerald Express at a reduced price AND add train-specific bricks to one's collection? I' ve planned to get my hands on an EN this year, but I just can't dish out all the money that the PF-ized set costs. A separate PF set, on the other hand, is not too cheap either, so... perhaps the combination that is possible with these new PF sets is a nice solution... or am I wrong there? Quote
WesternOutlaw Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 Here's a new one... This is nice, but why have you posted it in this topic? Quote
Rick Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 ... or am I wrong there? I think the train sets will indeed be a relatively cost-effective way to get a complete set of PF. In setting the price of the sets TLG obviously has to consider keeping the price for 'a train set' within bounds: customers (parents/kids) see a train set and not a brick-built train and a set of PF. Quote
Klaus-Dieter Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 Thank you very much for this price information, The Cobra! 40 Euros for the Train Station is ok since it is no real train station but - since they regrettably did not include a decent train station (house) - only a train stop. 165 Euros for the Cargo Train would be still expensive enough - but much better than 180 Euros. Klaus-Dieter Quote
peterab Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 Sorry for the stupid question but -- am I the only one who sees the new trains as a wonderful opportunity to "motorize" the Emerald Express at a reduced price AND add train-specific bricks to one's collection? I' ve planned to get my hands on an EN this year, but I just can't dish out all the money that the PF-ized set costs. A separate PF set, on the other hand, is not too cheap either, so... perhaps the combination that is possible with these new PF sets is a nice solution... or am I wrong there? No I've seen that thought expressed a few times, but it all hinges on the price, which at this stage, we only have reliable info on for the New Zealand market. If Australia's prices are similar (they usually are just slightly cheaper but not always) then it's not a huge bargain. The Euro prices quoted seem to be very cheap, which leads me to be more sceptical. We'll have to wait and see. If the price turns out to be attractive I'll be doing exactly what you suggest. I'll certainly buy a freight train if I can afford it, but depending on price I may buy a couple of the passenger train too. Quote
Hinckley Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 Here's a new one... This forum is for LEGO, not knock-offs. Please post crap imitation brands in the Community forum. Thank you. Quote
Brickthus Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 I think the train sets will indeed be a relatively cost-effective way to get a complete set of PF. In setting the price of the sets TLG obviously has to consider keeping the price for 'a train set' within bounds: customers (parents/kids) see a train set and not a brick-built train and a set of PF. Whilst the PF set will be complete, you will still need the XL motor for the EN cab. The EN needs to be driven from its driving wheels. It doesn't like being pushed. As a test to see if I could increase the speed of an extended EN train, I tried adding an 8866 train motor to the carriage with a PF medium motor in the cab (3x speed of XL motor) and the 8866 motor was overgeared and pushed the coach off the rails. This would have been a worse overgearing with the recommended XL motor in the cab. In short, if you want more pulling power, use two ENs each with an XL motor and set the IR receivers to the same channel, but don't expect more speed! I understand the 8866 motor is designed to pull a train of 4 6x28 bogie vehicles (i.e. a train set like the two for this year). This makes it unsuitable for many AFOL trains. In tests against the 9V train motor, the 8866 motor has poor speed regulation with load changes (hills or more wagons), is overgeared and has too little torque. As 9V train motors are obsolete, AFOL PF locos are beginning to use a medium PF motor per bogie, often mounted vertically inside the loco body. Mark Quote
MetroiD Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 Thank you for your responses guys. Once again, excuse the stupid question/assumption, but I'm yet to buy my first PF set, so I have no idea whatsoever as to precisely what/how is required in order to properly run the Emerald Night, let alone a custom-built MOC. In any case, if, as Mark says (thanks for the input mate, you've always been a guiding light as far as LEGO train technologies are concerned), the Emerald Night + Passenger/Cargo Train combo won't quite cut it, then it looks to me that the EN is going to be quite a pricey set for me, considering all the stuff one needs in order to actually run that train. (Is it appropriate if I whine a bit about how much I miss 9V now ) That, however, doesn't make the 2010 Trains any less good. As a matter of fact, the more I look at that Passenger Train, the more I like it... Can't wait to see the official product ;] Quote
Piranha Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 Those are Euro (€) prices. Last time I checked, they didn't use dollars in Italy So remembering the earlier said 1 euro is 1 USD, then the USD prices would be 7936 Level Crossing = 16.99 7937 Train Station = 39.99 7938 Passenger Train = 102.99 7939 Cargo Train = 164.99 USD of course If you were to convert euro to USD then it would actually be around $250 for the Cargo Train. I like the fixed exchange rate better Quote
Captain Zuloo Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 Again, let's not get all worked up about prices until we see them in actual shops, and S@H. Quote
segambit Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 Any clue on release dates? The old trains are out of stock in my local store. Quote
Rick Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 Any clue on release dates? The old trains are out of stock in my local store. Opening post says June, but I remember reading August somewhere as well. Anyway, it'll be a while... Quote
segambit Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 Opening post says June, but I remember reading August somewhere as well. Anyway, it'll be a while... Aug, wow? 7897 is gone from lego.com and 7898 is out of stock without date. Will they really wait that long for a new train? Quote
Rapseflaps Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 That Dutch retailer catalogue that leaked listed all train sets as having an August 2010 release date. Quote
peterab Posted January 11, 2010 Posted January 11, 2010 (edited) Aug, wow? 7897 is gone from lego.com and 7898 is out of stock without date. Will they really wait that long for a new train? Yes, trains are not a huge priority for Lego as they are not hugely profitable. In many markets they are only regularly available through S@H, since retailers seem only stock them immediately after release if at all. Since the trains have a three to four year life span, about three quaters of the time in Australia, we simply cannot get trains at retail. Edited to add: It may vary from market to market a little, however TLG only really recognises two markets; the US and everywhere else. Since Europe and Australia have an August release the only likely exception may be the US. Edited January 11, 2010 by peterab Quote
brickfreak99 Posted January 11, 2010 Posted January 11, 2010 Moderators, could you please post links to the images of these new sets on the first post? It may be useful as you wouldn't need to search through pages of posts.. ;P Quote
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